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  1. There are a number of grains that can be enjoyed by people who are
    sensitive to wheat. Of course, they are wonderful for people who do
    eat wheat as well. They can be used as interesting changes of pace and
    to make the diet more various, and sometimes downright exotic.

    I personally love injera, Ethiopian bread made from teff, which is one
    of the healthiest grains on the planet.

    There's plenty on this site for a start:

    http://beta.thesoftwarestudio.com/Home,Cooking,Grains.html

    You should know about Kamut, wheat's ancestor:

    http://www.indianharvest.com/html/foodservice/pdf/GrainPastaProfiles/10306ProductProfile.pdf

    To your health,
    VP

  2. Quoted message said:

    "You should know about Kamut, wheat's ancestor:

    http://www.indianharvest.com/html/foodservice/pdf/GrainPastaProfiles/10306Produ
    ctProfile.pdf"

    It is not ancestor to wheat, it is a variation of wheat. What we call
    wheat grows yet in it's original form in the middle east and is only
    slightly different in most respects from what is grown now.

    Good catch! You may have saved some people from VP's claim that
    "There are a number of grains that can be enjoyed by people who are
    sensitive to wheat."

    VP's Kamut link says:
    "INGREDIENTS: Kamut Brand Wheat
    ALLERGIC STATEMENT: CONTAINS "WHEAT " TO WHICH SOME PEOPLE MAY BE
    ALLERGIC."

    its been formally tested:
    Allergy. 2002 Jul;57(7):653-4.
    Allergenic potential of Kamut wheat.
    Simonato B, Pasini G, Giannattasio M, Curioni A.
    PMID: 12100316

    full text at:
    http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1034/j.1398-9995.2002.23757.x
    immunoblot and skin [censored] tests for Kamut and wheat matched.
    no differences in allergic potential can be found between wheat and
    Kamut.

  3. I thought mentioning that Kamut is wheat's ancestor would be warning
    enough to those who are sensitive to wheat. My purpose in mentioning
    that it is wheat's ancestor and mentioning it separately was to alert
    those who allergic to wheat; but thank you for the additional
    clarification. Not wanting to post long posts I economized on words.
    You're right. Better to make matters like these very clear.

  4. Hi, Kam:

    Good question.

    I'm not in the States. I'm in Israel.

    I've never bought any flours or grains from a mail order supplier.
    You'd have to ask the American contingent about that.

    Either I buy from a health food store I'm familiar with, or people run
    co-ops and buy in bulk from a known distributor.

    The Ethiopians in Israel have their own sources of Teff (they pronounce
    it 'Tif', with a very short 'i'😉. People buy it from them or just get
    themselves invited for dinner.

    VP :0)

  5. Visual Purple said:

    I personally love injera, Ethiopian bread made from teff, which is one
    of the healthiest grains on the planet.

    Sez you. It would help if the Ethiopians were healthier.

    (For those of you who haven't had it, injera tastes rather like good
    good lofty sourdough pancakes cooked very lightly--- which the cook
    screwed up by leaving out the sugar. It's odd but pleasant).

    SBH

  6. SBH

    The Ethiopians who arrived in Israel were ill as a result of poverty
    and poor sanitary conditions, not because of their diet, which is quite
    healthy. Most of them were undernourished. I saw this first hand, as I
    worked with the Ethiopian immigrants upon their arrival from the hour
    they arrived.

    Here in Israel, after having been treated for the diseases they came
    with and where they now have enough money to buy all the food they need
    and have access to our socialized medical system they are very healthy
    indeed.

    The Ethiopians also have a *very* detailed knowledge of herbal
    medicine. The Israeli Ministry of Health is working hand-in-hand with
    them learning their traditional folk medicine and integrating it into
    allopathic medicine.

    I don't know how many real live Ethiopians you are acquainted with. My
    daughter dated a young man from Ethiopia for a couple of years and
    learned Amharic from him. He trained as a medic in the Israeli army and
    then went back to Ethiopia to learn medicine there on a full
    scholarship.

    There is a nursing school in the hospital where my husband works. Many
    of the nurses-in-training are of Ethiopian extraction and they are very
    health-aware, integrating what they are learning under the aegis of the
    Israeli Ministry of Health and that which they have received
    traditionally in a most successful and salubrious manner.

    VP

  7. SBH

    The Ethiopians who arrived in Israel were ill as a result of poverty
    and poor sanitary conditions, not because of their diet, which is quite
    healthy. Most of them were undernourished. I saw this first hand, as I
    worked with the Ethiopian immigrants upon their arrival from the hour
    they arrived.

    Here in Israel, after having been treated for the diseases they came
    with and where they now have enough money to buy all the food they need
    and have access to our socialized medical system they are very healthy
    indeed.

    The Ethiopians also have a *very* detailed knowledge of herbal
    medicine. The Israeli Ministry of Health is working hand-in-hand with
    them learning their traditional folk medicine and integrating it into
    allopathic medicine.

    I don't know how many real live Ethiopians you are acquainted with. My
    daughter dated a young man from Ethiopia for a couple of years and
    learned Amharic from him. He trained as a medic in the Israeli army and
    then went back to Ethiopia to learn medicine there on a full
    scholarship.

    There is a nursing school in the hospital where my husband works. Many
    of the nurses-in-training are of Ethiopian extraction and they are very
    health-aware, integrating what they are learning under the aegis of the
    Israeli Ministry of Health and that which they have received
    traditionally in a most successful and salubrious manner.

    VP

  8. Visual Purple said:

    I thought mentioning that Kamut is wheat's ancestor would be warning
    enough to those who are sensitive to wheat.

    The subject of this thread is Alternative Grains. I ask Alternative to
    what?

    Tell me Dear, why do you guys in the middle east like to blow
    themselves up? And, kill innocent people?

    Too many females, like yourself, I suppose?

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

  9. "Visual Purple" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi, Kam:

    Good question.

    I'm not in the States. I'm in Israel.

    I understand that Rye is a popular grain in Israel and how about
    using it . It is much better then the one you are using .

    Kam

    Quoted message said:

    VP :0)

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  10. Visual Purple said:

    Hi, Kam:

    Good question.

    I'm not in the States. I'm in Israel.

    Zionism is where holier than thou people daily try to exterminate the
    Palestinians with the blessings of their god, of course.

    You people are the ultimate source of 9-11.

    Just thought that you might want to know, that not all Americians
    believe in supporting racist Zionism.

  11. On 6 Aug 2005 11:34:09 -0700, "Visual Purple" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    There are a number of grains that can be enjoyed by people who are
    sensitive to wheat. Of course, they are wonderful for people who do
    eat wheat as well. They can be used as interesting changes of pace and
    to make the diet more various, and sometimes downright exotic.

    How about avoid grains entirely or only consume them in very small
    amounts. Its not as if they are a requirement for good health.

    Quoted message said:


    I personally love injera, Ethiopian bread made from teff, which is one
    of the healthiest grains on the planet.

    Our farmers know that grains are great for fattening up their
    livestock. If you train like an Ethiopian marathon runner then I guess
    you can eat grains like a cow.

    RBR

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