Whole Wheat Question Please

"Bob Newman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Some of the bread I have seen in the stores say "Stone Ground Whole Wheat"
while others just say "Whole Wheat".

Stone ground implies that it's been milled in the traditional way, which is
somehow reassuring, however I'm not sure what the modern way is, though it's
probably not nice 😉

Ian

Bob Newman said:

Some of the bread I have seen in the stores say "Stone Ground Whole Wheat"
while others just say "Whole Wheat". What is the difference between the
two? Is either better for you than the other?
--
Thanks in advance... Bob

Stone ground implies slow grinding at a low temperature and not
completely ground to a fine powder. White flour is ground at high speed
with steel grinding rollers which generates high heat which degrades
the nutritional value of the product.

Either of the two products you've mentioned can contain up to 40%
regular white flour. The process usually entails seperating the
components of the grain and then re-formulating it by adding white
flour to the already separated grain germ and the grain bran. In other
words, the flour maker usually completely separates the parts of the
grain and then re-formulates it to make a whole wheat flour. As opposed
to simply taking whole grains and gringing it into a flour in one step.

Part of the reason is that once the grains parts are separated, they
remove the oils from the germ. If they leave the oils, the grain flour
will go rancid faster. By removing the oils, the germ will not cause
problems with the shelf life of the product. Of course the most
nutritious parts are now gone or completely denatured. You are left
with a nutritionally-bereft manufactured flour, regardless of whether
it is whole wheat or not.

For real healthy flour, do what previous generations did. Soak fresh
wheat berries for a day or two and grind it by hand into a coarse
flour. And when you bake it, bake it at the lowest temperature that
will do the job.

TC

Stone ground whole wheat, being coarser than whole wheat that has been
ground to a powder, also delivers the benefit of making your body work
harder to digest it. That makes it a lower calorie food than fine WW
flour because you are expending more energy digesting it than you would
finer WW flour.

There is a good deal to learn about alternative grains. I hope to post
some information about them next week.

"Visual Purple" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Stone ground whole wheat, being coarser than whole wheat that has been
ground to a powder, also delivers the benefit of making your body work
harder to digest it. That makes it a lower calorie food than fine WW
flour because you are expending more energy digesting it than you would
finer WW flour.

There is a good deal to learn about alternative grains. I hope to post
some information about them next week.

None of these "grains" has the nutritional benefits
of sprouted grains. But sprouts are a lot of work
and they must be refrigerated. So, convenience
usually trumps nutrition.

An exception to the consumer's "convenience trumping
nutrition" is bread made principally from sprouts. Such
bread is usually found in the frozen food section of your
health food store and sometimes your super market. If
you try it, please post your experience.

GWC

I appreciated all the input but this is just a regular grocery shopper at
heart and I'd like to get the best I can, but off the traditional grocery
shelves.

Bob

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"Visual Purple" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Stone ground whole wheat, being coarser than whole wheat that has been
ground to a powder, also delivers the benefit of making your body work
harder to digest it. That makes it a lower calorie food than fine WW
flour because you are expending more energy digesting it than you would
finer WW flour.

There is a good deal to learn about alternative grains. I hope to post
some information about them next week.

None of these "grains" has the nutritional benefits
of sprouted grains. But sprouts are a lot of work
and they must be refrigerated. So, convenience
usually trumps nutrition.

An exception to the consumer's "convenience trumping
nutrition" is bread made principally from sprouts. Such
bread is usually found in the frozen food section of your
health food store and sometimes your super market. If
you try it, please post your experience.

GWC

There are more "rock" chips in the stone ground wheat.

"Bob Newman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Some of the bread I have seen in the stores say "Stone Ground Whole Wheat"
while others just say "Whole Wheat". What is the difference between the
two? Is either better for you than the other?
--
Thanks in advance... Bob

There are more "rock" chips in the stone ground wheat.

"Bob Newman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Some of the bread I have seen in the stores say "Stone Ground Whole Wheat"
while others just say "Whole Wheat". What is the difference between the
two? Is either better for you than the other?
--
Thanks in advance... Bob

George Cherry said:

Visual Purple said:

Stone ground whole wheat, being coarser than whole wheat that has been
ground to a powder, also delivers the benefit of making your body work

Quoted message said:

None of these "grains" has the nutritional benefits
of sprouted grains. But sprouts are a lot of work
and they must be refrigerated. So, convenience
usually trumps nutrition.

And sprouting removes the phytic acid.

Whole meal cereals and other seeds have in their shells phytic acid which
strongly binds to minerals like iron, calcium, zinc and magnesium to form
insoluble salts, phytates. There is overwhelming evidence that whole meal
cereals through this mechanism decrease the absorption of such minerals.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Bob Newman said:

Some of the bread I have seen in the stores say "Stone Ground Whole Wheat"
while others just say "Whole Wheat". What is the difference between the
two? Is either better for you than the other?

Most likely there is not much difference, I would go for the one which is the
freshest. You really have to be on your toes these days to get fresh bread
since it has often been on the shelf for a week or more.

If the loaf is quite heavy in comparison to size I don't buy it because I don't
like heavy bread.

Ora

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:07:41 -0400, Don Wiss wrote in
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And sprouting removes the phytic acid.

What about leavening and cooking? Do those processes remove the phytic acid
as well, in some extent?

--
Enrico C

Enrico C said:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:07:41 -0400, Don Wiss:

Quoted message said:

And sprouting removes the phytic acid.

What about leavening and cooking? Do those processes remove the phytic acid
as well, in some extent?

I don't believe so. But soaking does, as long as you through away the
water.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).