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  1. Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    DKUATB. Helen suffers a progressive degenerative disease, and can't ride
    a bike any longer. She recently bought a Brompton for her partner, who
    can.

    Quoted message said:

    Apologies Helen. I did recently clear huge swathes of news, by marking
    as read, and I have tended to avoid Brompton related threads (Apparently
    there's a regular here who was intending to get one... do we know what
    happened?).

    Quoted message said:

    Jon

    He got it. It fols, unfolds, folds, unfolds.

    I met him and it during Bike Week.

    He has the special Brooks Brompton saddle.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  2. Dave Larrington said:
    David Hansen said:

    On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:12:30 +0100 someone who may be Phil Cook
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    Yes I was under the impression that the Brom had really small ones
    but they are 16 the same as the D9 and my favoured Birdy has 18 only
    a smidgin larger.

    The outside diameter of Birdy wheels is little greater than those of
    the Brompton, far less than the difference between the claimed 16"
    and 18" wheel sizes.

    6 mm difference in rim diameter. Depending on the tyres fitted, the
    Brompton may even have a larger overall whel diameter than the Birdy.

    Right I'm off to Phoenix to get a test ride...
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  3. Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    I have multiple sclerosis & can't ride anything. I bought the Brompton
    for boyfriend when full-size bike in bag seemed unmanageable for
    forthcoming holiday.


    Do you have a rickshaw in which he can pedal while you are seated
    safely? If not ....

    Reminds me of a few weeks ago, I was out on the bike and met a lady on
    an interesting-looking trike. I remarked on it, and she told me she
    was unable to ride a bike for medical reasons: she couldn't balance
    reliably. I'm sure her condition is far less severe than yours, but
    it serves to remind us that it may be worth looking for workarounds.

    --
    Nick Kew

  4. Phil Cook said:
    Dave Larrington said:
    David Hansen said:

    On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:12:30 +0100 someone who may be Phil Cook
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    >Yes I was under the impression that the Brom had really small ones
    >but they are 16 the same as the D9 and my favoured Birdy has 18 only
    >a smidgin larger.

    The outside diameter of Birdy wheels is little greater than those of
    the Brompton, far less than the difference between the claimed 16"
    and 18" wheel sizes.

    6 mm difference in rim diameter. Depending on the tyres fitted, the
    Brompton may even have a larger overall whel diameter than the Birdy.

    Right I'm off to Phoenix to get a test ride...

    Birdy are doing a Rent a Birdy for a Day for £5 offer at selected
    dealers if you want to give on a proper try.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  5. "Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony W said:

    Perhaps the rate at which he was folding the frames of his Streetmachine

    Point Of Order: Guy has been folding Optima Stingers, not HPVelotechnik
    Streetmachines. Just don't want people going away thinking SMGTs aren't
    built like rather strong tanks...

    I thank the honourable member for that clarification.

    T

  6. Peter Clinch said:

    He might...
    Darth Ben managed to slightly misalign the rear triangle on his original
    Streetmachine by taking it stunt-jumping Big Air on a few occasions, so
    it's /possible/ to bend them.

    At this point it is worth noting that (with the utmost respect) Darth
    Ben is lunatic! He was telling me once about how he nearly went straight
    down a set of steps on his On-One singlespeed. The reason? He normally
    did on the bent!

    Jon

  7. Jon Senior said:

    At this point it is worth noting that (with the utmost respect) Darth
    Ben is lunatic! He was telling me once about how he nearly went straight
    down a set of steps on his On-One singlespeed. The reason? He normally
    did on the bent!

    The Streetmachine does weigh a lot, but the weight goes on some tangibly
    useful stuff. Not only is the build very strong, but the suspension is
    excellent as well!

    You could be forgiven for thinking it was delicate if you read HPVel's
    manual, which suggests riding it off a kerb is the End Of The World, but
    experience suggests it isn't...

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  8. "Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OK so it has probably been covered before.

    The location at which I start work is shortly to be changed. Where I
    finish work will remain the same and I'll be blowed if I'm going to
    use public transport to get back from where I end to where the bike
    would be if I carry on as now and use my road bike commuter to get to
    work. So I'm in the market for a folder. The thing is I'd like to kill
    two birds with one stone and get one that will be OK on roughish
    tracks in a Sustrans-towpath-Scottish-Hill-Track stylee as well as
    commuting in London.

    So I think I can discount the Brompton, that seems to have two things
    against it in my book: small wheels and lack of stiffness in the
    frame. I am leaning towards either a Birdy Red or a Mezzo D9

    Comments?

    MANY excellent websites have reviewed dozens, perhaps hundreds of folding
    bikes.
    I'm rather fond of http://www.foldsoc.co.uk/

    I did a review there and a mini-buyers guide outlining my test ride and
    buying experience.
    http://www.halffg.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/foldsoc/canada.html
    As the editor mentions, KHS may be difficult to find in the UK. I've heard
    they ride comparably to a Brompton at half the price - now I just need to
    find a Brompton to compare it to firsthand.

    Some other links:
    atob.org.ukBuyers' Guide.html
    http://nordicgroup.us/fold/
    http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/folding_bikes.shtml
    http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=221
    http://www.bikesandtrailers.com/folding-bikes/

    Good luck!
    Chris

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