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  1. "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."

    The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    milk a slight off-taste.

    None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    because of human health concerns.

  2. On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:

    "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."

    The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    milk a slight off-taste.

    None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    because of human health concerns.

    And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    --
    Enrico C

  3. John Sankey a écrit dans le message ...

    Quoted message said:


    "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."

    The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    milk a slight off-taste.

    None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    because of human health concerns.

    You don't think that the fact that the Milkweed family contains cardiac
    glycoside that can
    cause heart failure and is poisonous to humans and most beasts could be a
    consideration.

    "Toxic part(S) The whole plant contains the glycoside"

    http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/vme/DrSue/poisplnt.html#n
    JL

  4. Enrico C a écrit dans le message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:

    "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."

    The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    milk a slight off-taste.

    None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    because of human health concerns.

    And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    --
    Enrico C

    Yes! It is . With a TOTAL lipid value of the edible portion
    of 0.1 gram per 100grams for the raw product.

    Lipid (type of tri-ester) is a term used by most biochemists for natural
    compounds that yield fatty acids on hydrolysis.
    Cooking oils are almost pure tri-esters. Their composition is given in
    terms of the various fatty acid that they yield on hydrolysis. They contain
    almost no
    free fatty acids. Foods that contain very much free fatty
    acids are sometimes called rancid (inedible).
    JL

  5. Enrico C a écrit dans le message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:

    "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."

    The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    milk a slight off-taste.

    None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    because of human health concerns.

    And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    --
    Enrico C

    Yes! It is . With a TOTAL lipid value of the edible portion
    of 0.1 gram per 100grams for the raw product.

    Lipid (type of tri-ester) is a term used by most biochemists for natural
    compounds that yield fatty acids on hydrolysis.
    Cooking oils are almost pure tri-esters. Their composition is given in
    terms of the various fatty acid that they yield on hydrolysis. They contain
    almost no
    free fatty acids. Foods that contain very much free fatty
    acids are sometimes called rancid (inedible).
    JL

  6. Enrico C wrote:
    :: On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    :: <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :
    ::
    ::: "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    ::: States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    ::: dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."
    :::
    ::: The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    ::: upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    ::: For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    ::: plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    ::: pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    ::: food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    ::: Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    ::: milk a slight off-taste.
    :::
    ::: None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    ::: because of human health concerns.

    Thanks for providing this information.

    :: And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    I noticed that, too.

    I hope this knowledge calms Ed's concerns. :-)

    --
    Juhana

  7. Enrico C wrote:
    :: On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    :: <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :
    ::
    ::: "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    ::: States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    ::: dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."
    :::
    ::: The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    ::: upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    ::: For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    ::: plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    ::: pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    ::: food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    ::: Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    ::: milk a slight off-taste.
    :::
    ::: None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    ::: because of human health concerns.

    Thanks for providing this information.

    :: And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    I noticed that, too.

    I hope this knowledge calms Ed's concerns. :-)

    --
    Juhana

  8. On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:06:12 +0300, Juhana Harju wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:

    :: And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    I noticed that, too.

    BTW, how could the diverging data on n-3s be explained?

    --
    Enrico C

  9. Juhana Harju said:

    Enrico C wrote:
    :: On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    :: <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :
    ::
    ::: "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    ::: States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    ::: dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."
    :::
    ::: The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    ::: upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    ::: For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    ::: plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    ::: pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    ::: food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    ::: Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    ::: milk a slight off-taste.
    :::
    ::: None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    ::: because of human health concerns.

    Thanks for providing this information.

    :: And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    I noticed that, too.

    I hope this knowledge calms Ed's concerns. :-)

    All of now-banned COX-2 inhibitors had been FDA approved.

    No number of listings in food or weed databases by idiot
    government agencies affect whether or not the dopamine
    and noradrenaline harm individuals sensitive to them.
    I am amazed that you consider these facts worthy of
    comment.

    Just as soaking cyanide pills in fish oil doesn't make
    them a good food, ignoring the potential hazard of purslane
    is reckless and malevolent.

  10. Juhana Harju said:

    Enrico C wrote:
    :: On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    :: <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :
    ::
    ::: "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    ::: States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    ::: dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."
    :::
    ::: The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    ::: upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    ::: For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    ::: plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    ::: pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    ::: food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    ::: Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    ::: milk a slight off-taste.
    :::
    ::: None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    ::: because of human health concerns.

    Thanks for providing this information.

    :: And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    I noticed that, too.

    I hope this knowledge calms Ed's concerns. :-)

    All of now-banned COX-2 inhibitors had been FDA approved.

    No number of listings in food or weed databases by idiot
    government agencies affect whether or not the dopamine
    and noradrenaline harm individuals sensitive to them.
    I am amazed that you consider these facts worthy of
    comment.

    Just as soaking cyanide pills in fish oil doesn't make
    them a good food, ignoring the potential hazard of purslane
    is reckless and malevolent.

  11. On 3 Aug 2005 06:54:54 -0700, just Ed wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on
    sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:
    Juhana Harju said:

    Enrico C wrote:
    :: On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    :: <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :
    ::
    ::: "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    ::: States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    ::: dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."
    :::
    ::: The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    ::: upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    ::: For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    ::: plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    ::: pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    ::: food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    ::: Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    ::: milk a slight off-taste.
    :::
    ::: None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    ::: because of human health concerns.

    Thanks for providing this information.

    :: And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    I noticed that, too.

    I hope this knowledge calms Ed's concerns. :-)

    All of now-banned COX-2 inhibitors had been FDA approved.

    Hint: those are newly developed drugs, while purslane is traditionally used
    in salads.

    Quoted message said:

    No number of listings in food or weed databases by idiot
    government agencies affect whether or not the dopamine
    and noradrenaline harm individuals sensitive to them.

    AFAIK, there is a number of foods that can be harmful for individuals
    sensitive to them.

    Quoted message said:

    I am amazed that you consider these facts worthy of
    comment.

    Just as soaking cyanide pills in fish oil doesn't make
    them a good food, ignoring the potential hazard of purslane
    is reckless and malevolent.

    Purslane is just like cyanide pills? Anybody still alive in Greece? 😉

    --
    Enrico C

  12. Enrico C said:

    On 3 Aug 2005 06:54:54 -0700, just Ed wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on
    sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:
    Juhana Harju said:

    Enrico C wrote:
    :: On 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    :: <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :
    ::
    ::: "Artemis Simopoulos ... makes the notice that in the United
    ::: States purslane is considered as a noxious weed, but she seems to
    ::: dismiss the fact - which is quite telling to me."
    :::
    ::: The Noxious Weeds acts in the USA and Canada are based solely
    ::: upon problems that are perceived to be encountered by farmers.
    ::: For example, if pigs are put off their feed by the taste of a
    ::: plant in their silage, the plant will be branded noxious so that
    ::: pigs can grow faster. Where I live, all milkweeds (an essential
    ::: food for one of the world's most fascinating butterflies, the
    ::: Monarch) are required to be exterminated because they give cow
    ::: milk a slight off-taste.
    :::
    ::: None of the 'noxious weeds' in Ontario Canada are so listed
    ::: because of human health concerns.

    Thanks for providing this information.

    :: And, purslane *is* listed in the UDSA food data base :-)

    I noticed that, too.

    I hope this knowledge calms Ed's concerns. :-)

    All of now-banned COX-2 inhibitors had been FDA approved.

    Hint: those are newly developed drugs, while purslane is traditionally used
    in salads.

    Hint: government approval doesn't mean its safe so what
    does listing in a food or weed database mean: nothing.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    No number of listings in food or weed databases by idiot
    government agencies affect whether or not the dopamine
    and noradrenaline harm individuals sensitive to them.

    AFAIK, there is a number of foods that can be harmful for individuals
    sensitive to them.

    Yes, and purlane may be one. Your observation that its has
    omega-3 in it does not change this. You do a disservice to those
    who may be harmed.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am amazed that you consider these facts worthy of
    comment.

    Just as soaking cyanide pills in fish oil doesn't make
    them a good food, ignoring the potential hazard of purslane
    is reckless and malevolent.

    Purslane is just like cyanide pills? Anybody still alive in Greece? 😉

    some individuals are not sensitive to dopamine and noradrenaline.
    This does not prove that no-one is sensitive.

    The arguments you presented here are foolish.

    I can see that you have no concern for your fellow man
    and are content with making happy-talk.

  13. On 3 Aug 2005 08:45:34 -0700, just Ed wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on
    sci.med.nutrition :
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    The arguments you presented here are foolish.

    That beats me! 😉

    --
    Enrico C

  14. On 3 Aug 2005 08:45:34 -0700, just Ed wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on
    sci.med.nutrition :
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    The arguments you presented here are foolish.

    That beats me! 😉

    --
    Enrico C

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