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  1. At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the kids to be
    picked up, people often play table tennis right outside the gym.

    I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've never been
    a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one counsellor who hadn't
    lost to anyone all summer. And then today I played again and beat
    another counsellor who also plays often, so all the other ones, about 10
    of them, started playing me in turn and I won every game.

    I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or something? Or am
    I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And, more importantly, how can I
    use this freak talent to make myself rich?

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  2. Luna said:

    At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the kids to be
    picked up, people often play table tennis right outside the gym.

    I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've never been
    a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one counsellor who hadn't
    lost to anyone all summer. And then today I played again and beat
    another counsellor who also plays often, so all the other ones, about 10
    of them, started playing me in turn and I won every game.

    I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or something? Or am
    I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And, more importantly, how can I
    use this freak talent to make myself rich?

    Have you seen 'Forrest Gump'? 🙂

    Will

  3. Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the kids
    :> to be picked up, people often play table tennis right outside the
    :> gym.
    :>
    :> I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've never
    :> been a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one counsellor who
    :> hadn't lost to anyone all summer. And then today I played again and
    :> beat another counsellor who also plays often, so all the other ones,
    :> about 10 of them, started playing me in turn and I won every game.
    :>
    :> I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or something?
    :> Or am I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And, more importantly,
    :> how can I use this freak talent to make myself rich?

    If you get the right person on the other side, you can burn a lot of
    calories!

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:

    Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the kids
    :> to be picked up, people often play table tennis right outside the
    :> gym.
    :>
    :> I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've never
    :> been a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one counsellor who
    :> hadn't lost to anyone all summer. And then today I played again and
    :> beat another counsellor who also plays often, so all the other ones,
    :> about 10 of them, started playing me in turn and I won every game.
    :>
    :> I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or something?
    :> Or am I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And, more importantly,
    :> how can I use this freak talent to make myself rich?

    If you get the right person on the other side, you can burn a lot of
    calories!

    Eh, some, but I wouldn't say "a lot." It goes fast, sure, but you don't
    have to run, or even a whole lot.

    Now, a sport that can burn a lot of calories, that I used to really
    love, but can no longer play since I don't have a yard anymore, was
    badminton. I used to play with my ex boyfriend, and he'd really make me
    dive for it. Sometimes he'd hit it so hard and fast, low over the net,
    right at me, I'd get welts if I missed it. Gave him a fair amount of
    welts too, come to think.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  5. http://www.killerspin.com/

    I saw it on ESPN or ESPN2. They are really very good and only one of
    them was not in what I would call good shape (he was very good though).
    Was so intriguing that I actually watched about an hour (two matches)
    of it.

    Luna said:

    At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the kids to be
    picked up, people often play table tennis right outside the gym.

    I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've never been
    a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one counsellor who hadn't
    lost to anyone all summer. And then today I played again and beat
    another counsellor who also plays often, so all the other ones, about 10
    of them, started playing me in turn and I won every game.

    I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or something? Or am
    I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And, more importantly, how can I
    use this freak talent to make myself rich?

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  6. Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::::: At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the kids
    ::::: to be picked up, people often play table tennis right outside the
    ::::: gym.
    :::::
    ::::: I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've
    ::::: never been a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one
    ::::: counsellor who hadn't lost to anyone all summer. And then today
    ::::: I played again and beat another counsellor who also plays often,
    ::::: so all the other ones, about 10 of them, started playing me in
    ::::: turn and I won every game.
    :::::
    ::::: I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or something?
    ::::: Or am I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And, more importantly,
    ::::: how can I use this freak talent to make myself rich?
    :::
    ::: If you get the right person on the other side, you can burn a lot of
    ::: calories!
    ::
    :: Eh, some, but I wouldn't say "a lot." It goes fast, sure, but you
    :: don't have to run, or even a whole lot.

    Eh, I'd say you haven't been playing long enough and with the right folks.
    those quick darts from side to side take energy....and with good players
    you'll need to get farther back from the table, so your span of range
    increases...hand/eye coordination will be developed, which I personally
    think might be very good for you (based on what i've gather from some of
    your previous comments and my memory!).

    ::
    :: Now, a sport that can burn a lot of calories, that I used to really
    :: love, but can no longer play since I don't have a yard anymore, was
    :: badminton. I used to play with my ex boyfriend, and he'd really
    :: make me dive for it. Sometimes he'd hit it so hard and fast, low
    :: over the net, right at me, I'd get welts if I missed it. Gave him a
    :: fair amount of welts too, come to think.

    I certainly won't disagree there! I enjoyed playing badminton.

    I'd like to encourage you to keep looking into the ping-pong, though. It can
    be very addictive. I used to play a lot of it in college and would burn a
    lot of energy....of course, I'd then undo the benefit of that by eating
    [censored]....hindsight sure is 20/20....

  7. On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:07:14 GMT, Luna wrote in
    alt.support.diet.low-carb:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:

    If you get the right person on the other side, you can burn a lot of
    calories!

    Eh, some, but I wouldn't say "a lot." It goes fast, sure, but you don't
    have to run, or even a whole lot.

    Based on that statement, I'd have to guess that you're playing
    ping-pong, not table tennis.

    --
    6/2/2003 181 or 191/166/here?

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:

    Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::::: At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the kids
    ::::: to be picked up, people often play table tennis right outside the
    ::::: gym.
    :::::
    ::::: I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've
    ::::: never been a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one
    ::::: counsellor who hadn't lost to anyone all summer. And then today
    ::::: I played again and beat another counsellor who also plays often,
    ::::: so all the other ones, about 10 of them, started playing me in
    ::::: turn and I won every game.
    :::::
    ::::: I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or something?
    ::::: Or am I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And, more importantly,
    ::::: how can I use this freak talent to make myself rich?
    :::
    ::: If you get the right person on the other side, you can burn a lot of
    ::: calories!
    ::
    :: Eh, some, but I wouldn't say "a lot." It goes fast, sure, but you
    :: don't have to run, or even a whole lot.

    Eh, I'd say you haven't been playing long enough and with the right folks.
    those quick darts from side to side take energy....and with good players
    you'll need to get farther back from the table, so your span of range
    increases

    It is energetic, and I do move a lot, and we do get pretty far back from
    the table. I guess it just doesn't feel intense compared with some of
    the other activities I do at camp, like playing wall ball with the kids.
    Also, when I'm having fun and doing something that requires mental
    concentration, it doesn't feel like I'm exercising. Have you ever
    played wall ball? It's just the best game ever.

    We play in the gym. You throw a tennis ball at the wall, it must not
    bounce before it hits the wall. Anyone can try and catch it, but if you
    fumble and drop it, or if it hits any part of you and then hits the
    floor, you must run and tag the wall before another player can grab the
    ball and hit the wall with it, or you're out. You get 5 outs before
    you're out of the game. Mostly boys from 10 to 14 years old play it, and
    they're just about the fastest animals on the planet, so you have to be
    quick to play with them. I wear myself out, but it's so fun I just want
    to keep going. Compared to that, table tennis feels like a stroll in the
    park.

    Quoted message said:

    ...hand/eye coordination will be developed, which I personally
    think might be very good for you (based on what i've gather from some of
    your previous comments and my memory!).

    My hand/eye coordination is just fine. So is my foot/eye coordination.
    I can juggle (only three balls, working on four, and working on clubs),
    I play hackysack, I catch the kids who fall off the balance beam. It's
    just walking I sometimes have problems with, especially when I'm sleep
    deprived.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    censored Yuknavech I-give-up.@dontspamcom said:

    On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:07:14 GMT, Luna wrote in
    alt.support.diet.low-carb:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:

    If you get the right person on the other side, you can burn a lot of
    calories!

    Eh, some, but I wouldn't say "a lot." It goes fast, sure, but you don't
    have to run, or even a whole lot.

    Based on that statement, I'd have to guess that you're playing
    ping-pong, not table tennis.

    --
    6/2/2003 181 or 191/166/here?

    I've just been a lot more active lately than usual, because of camp.
    It's a subjective thing, like how walking can be good exercise, but it
    doesn't feel like it if you're accustomed to running.

    It's probably better exercise than I realized while doing it, because
    today my legs are sore, and I didn't get any other exercise yesterday
    other than the weights, and it was an upper body day.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  10. Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Luna wrote:
    ::::: In article <[email hidden]>,
    ::::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :::::
    :::::: Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :::::::: At summer camp, during "postcamp" when we are waiting for the
    :::::::: kids to be picked up, people often play table tennis right
    :::::::: outside the gym.
    ::::::::
    :::::::: I haven't played this game at least since last year, and I've
    :::::::: never been a frequent player. Last week, I beat this one
    :::::::: counsellor who hadn't lost to anyone all summer. And then
    :::::::: today I played again and beat another counsellor who also
    :::::::: plays often, so all the other ones, about 10 of them, started
    :::::::: playing me in turn and I won every game.
    ::::::::
    :::::::: I'm just wondering, is this game supposed to be hard or
    :::::::: something? Or am I some sort of table tennis prodigy? And,
    :::::::: more importantly, how can I use this freak talent to make
    :::::::: myself rich?
    ::::::
    :::::: If you get the right person on the other side, you can burn a
    :::::: lot of calories!
    :::::
    ::::: Eh, some, but I wouldn't say "a lot." It goes fast, sure, but you
    ::::: don't have to run, or even a whole lot.
    :::
    ::: Eh, I'd say you haven't been playing long enough and with the right
    ::: folks. those quick darts from side to side take energy....and with
    ::: good players you'll need to get farther back from the table, so
    ::: your span of range increases
    ::
    :: It is energetic, and I do move a lot, and we do get pretty far back
    :: from the table. I guess it just doesn't feel intense compared with
    :: some of the other activities I do at camp, like playing wall ball
    :: with the kids. Also, when I'm having fun and doing something that
    :: requires mental concentration, it doesn't feel like I'm exercising.
    :: Have you ever played wall ball? It's just the best game ever.

    No, I've not even heard of it.

    ::
    :: We play in the gym. You throw a tennis ball at the wall, it must not
    :: bounce before it hits the wall. Anyone can try and catch it, but if
    :: you fumble and drop it, or if it hits any part of you and then hits
    :: the floor, you must run and tag the wall before another player can
    :: grab the ball and hit the wall with it, or you're out. You get 5
    :: outs before you're out of the game. Mostly boys from 10 to 14 years
    :: old play it, and they're just about the fastest animals on the
    :: planet, so you have to be quick to play with them. I wear myself
    :: out, but it's so fun I just want to keep going. Compared to that,
    :: table tennis feels like a stroll in the park.

    Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as dodgeball! 🙂
    Comparatively, it does sound like more work than table tennis. Either one or
    both seem like good activities to engage in. And if you do a lot of either,
    you're going to need more carbs.

    ::
    ::: ...hand/eye coordination will be developed, which I personally
    ::: think might be very good for you (based on what i've gather from
    ::: some of your previous comments and my memory!).
    ::
    :: My hand/eye coordination is just fine. So is my foot/eye
    :: coordination. I can juggle (only three balls, working on four, and
    :: working on clubs), I play hackysack, I catch the kids who fall off
    :: the balance beam. It's just walking I sometimes have problems
    :: with, especially when I'm sleep deprived.

    Okay. I don't know where I got my notions from then...

    ::
    :: --
    :: http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:


    Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as dodgeball! 🙂
    Comparatively, it does sound like more work than table tennis. Either one or
    both seem like good activities to engage in. And if you do a lot of either,
    you're going to need more carbs.

    So far, I don't think so. What I need to do is to eat breakfast. I
    frequently just have coffee until I get home. When I force myself to
    eat something, like some hard boiled eggs, I have a much better day.
    Although, I'm not sure what you mean by "a lot." The wall ball is
    generally just an hour or so, probably not enough to need more carbs.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  12. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:


    Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as dodgeball! 🙂
    Comparatively, it does sound like more work than table tennis. Either one
    or
    both seem like good activities to engage in. And if you do a lot of
    either,
    you're going to need more carbs.

    So far, I don't think so. What I need to do is to eat breakfast. I
    frequently just have coffee until I get home. When I force myself to
    eat something, like some hard boiled eggs, I have a much better day.
    Although, I'm not sure what you mean by "a lot." The wall ball is
    generally just an hour or so, probably not enough to need more carbs.

    Roger thinks he needs more carbs for a casual stroll down the street, but
    that thought is a fallacy, just as it is in this case.

  13. Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> In article <[email hidden]>,
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :>
    :>
    :> >
    :> > Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as
    :> > dodgeball! 🙂 Comparatively, it does sound like more work than
    :> > table tennis. Either one or both seem like good activities to
    :> > engage in. And if you do a lot of either, you're going to need
    :> > more carbs.
    :> >
    :>
    :> So far, I don't think so. What I need to do is to eat breakfast. I
    :> frequently just have coffee until I get home. When I force myself to
    :> eat something, like some hard boiled eggs, I have a much better day.
    :> Although, I'm not sure what you mean by "a lot." The wall ball is
    :> generally just an hour or so, probably not enough to need more carbs.

    Well, if you don't think you need extra carbs, you probably don't! I would
    define "a lot," in this case, as that amount which forces you, through lack
    of energy, to up your carb consumption (assuming you're being honest with
    yourself).

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Zoul said:

    Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> In article <[email hidden]>,
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :>
    :>
    :> >
    :> > Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as
    :> > dodgeball! 🙂 Comparatively, it does sound like more work than
    :> > table tennis. Either one or both seem like good activities to
    :> > engage in. And if you do a lot of either, you're going to need
    :> > more carbs.
    :> >
    :>
    :> So far, I don't think so. What I need to do is to eat breakfast. I
    :> frequently just have coffee until I get home. When I force myself to
    :> eat something, like some hard boiled eggs, I have a much better day.
    :> Although, I'm not sure what you mean by "a lot." The wall ball is
    :> generally just an hour or so, probably not enough to need more carbs.

    Well, if you don't think you need extra carbs, you probably don't! I would
    define "a lot," in this case, as that amount which forces you, through lack
    of energy, to up your carb consumption (assuming you're being honest with
    yourself).

    Uh, hmm. How would I know the difference between _needing_ more carbs,
    and just _wanting_ more carbs?

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  15. Roger Zoul said:

    Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Luna wrote:

    :: We play in the gym. You throw a tennis ball at the wall, it must not
    :: bounce before it hits the wall. Anyone can try and catch it, but if
    :: you fumble and drop it, or if it hits any part of you and then hits
    :: the floor, you must run and tag the wall before another player can
    :: grab the ball and hit the wall with it, or you're out. You get 5
    :: outs before you're out of the game. Mostly boys from 10 to 14 years
    :: old play it, and they're just about the fastest animals on the
    :: planet, so you have to be quick to play with them. I wear myself
    :: out, but it's so fun I just want to keep going. Compared to that,
    :: table tennis feels like a stroll in the park.

    Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as dodgeball! 🙂
    Comparatively, it does sound like more work than table tennis. Either one or
    both seem like good activities to engage in. And if you do a lot of either,
    you're going to need more carbs.

    In my day (as a 10-14 year old), the rules were a little different. If
    you didn't get to the wall, you had to stand at the wall, while the
    person who threw you out pegs you in the back with the tennis ball. I
    guess that's just the mean streets of New York, but I would much rather
    have been playing dodgeball. We called this game alternatively Wall
    Ball and Suicide.

    -Hollywood

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Max Hollywood Harris said:
    Roger Zoul said:

    Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Luna wrote:

    :: We play in the gym. You throw a tennis ball at the wall, it must not
    :: bounce before it hits the wall. Anyone can try and catch it, but if
    :: you fumble and drop it, or if it hits any part of you and then hits
    :: the floor, you must run and tag the wall before another player can
    :: grab the ball and hit the wall with it, or you're out. You get 5
    :: outs before you're out of the game. Mostly boys from 10 to 14 years
    :: old play it, and they're just about the fastest animals on the
    :: planet, so you have to be quick to play with them. I wear myself
    :: out, but it's so fun I just want to keep going. Compared to that,
    :: table tennis feels like a stroll in the park.

    Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as dodgeball! 🙂
    Comparatively, it does sound like more work than table tennis. Either one or
    both seem like good activities to engage in. And if you do a lot of either,
    you're going to need more carbs.

    In my day (as a 10-14 year old), the rules were a little different. If
    you didn't get to the wall, you had to stand at the wall, while the
    person who threw you out pegs you in the back with the tennis ball. I
    guess that's just the mean streets of New York, but I would much rather
    have been playing dodgeball. We called this game alternatively Wall
    Ball and Suicide.

    -Hollywood

    I don't think that version would fly at the YMCA.

    I left out a few of our rules, for simplicity's sake, which I'm sure
    vary in different places. For instance, if you catch the ball and
    someone else calls "Spot" then you have to throw from where you are.
    But sometimes we allow "safe relays" (when younger kids are playing)
    where you can pass to another player if you're too far from the wall.
    But if they miss or drop it, then you both have to run and tag the wall.
    And, if you touch it twice (like catch it, but drop it, and pick it up
    again on the bounce) that's a "double touch" and automatic out. If you
    catch your own throw more than three times, that's called a "tea party"
    and at the start of the game the players can call "no tea parties" in
    which case it would also be an automatic out.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  17. Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> In article <[email hidden]>,
    :> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :>
    :> > Luna <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> > :> In article <[email hidden]>,
    :> > :> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> > :>
    :> > :>
    :> > :> >
    :> > :> > Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as
    :> > :> > dodgeball! 🙂 Comparatively, it does sound like more work than
    :> > :> > table tennis. Either one or both seem like good activities to
    :> > :> > engage in. And if you do a lot of either, you're going to
    :> > :> > need
    :> > :> > more carbs.
    :> > :> >
    :> > :>
    :> > :> So far, I don't think so. What I need to do is to eat
    :> > :> breakfast. I frequently just have coffee until I get home.
    :> > :> When I force myself to eat something, like some hard boiled
    :> > :> eggs, I have a much better day. Although, I'm not sure what you
    :> > :> mean by "a lot." The wall ball is generally just an hour or
    :> > :> so, probably not enough to need more carbs.
    :> >
    :> > Well, if you don't think you need extra carbs, you probably don't!
    :> > I would define "a lot," in this case, as that amount which forces
    :> > you, through lack of energy, to up your carb consumption (assuming
    :> > you're being honest with yourself).
    :>
    :> Uh, hmm. How would I know the difference between _needing_ more
    :> carbs,
    :> and just _wanting_ more carbs?

    When you _need_ more, you'll know.

  18. "Max Hollywood Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Roger Zoul said:

    Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Luna wrote:

    :: We play in the gym. You throw a tennis ball at the wall, it must not
    :: bounce before it hits the wall. Anyone can try and catch it, but if
    :: you fumble and drop it, or if it hits any part of you and then hits
    :: the floor, you must run and tag the wall before another player can
    :: grab the ball and hit the wall with it, or you're out. You get 5
    :: outs before you're out of the game. Mostly boys from 10 to 14 years
    :: old play it, and they're just about the fastest animals on the
    :: planet, so you have to be quick to play with them. I wear myself
    :: out, but it's so fun I just want to keep going. Compared to that,
    :: table tennis feels like a stroll in the park.

    Interesting. It does sound like fun, and not as "mean" as dodgeball! 🙂
    Comparatively, it does sound like more work than table tennis. Either one
    or
    both seem like good activities to engage in. And if you do a lot of
    either,
    you're going to need more carbs.

    In my day (as a 10-14 year old), the rules were a little different. If
    you didn't get to the wall, you had to stand at the wall, while the
    person who threw you out pegs you in the back with the tennis ball. I
    guess that's just the mean streets of New York, but I would much rather
    have been playing dodgeball. We called this game alternatively Wall
    Ball and Suicide.

    That sounds like what we played in junior high - except we called it "Butt
    Ball" because you're standing against the wall and they throw the ball at
    you.

  19. I think I heard Butt Ball once or twice. Maybe at summer camp.
    Definitely the same thing though.

    Oh the homogenized safe kids of today. I understand what Lame Deer was
    talking about when he said there's no power in a dairy cow, it's like a
    watered down buffalo. (That said, I prefer beef to buffalo, but buff is
    pretty good).

    Hollywood.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Max Hollywood Harris said:

    I think I heard Butt Ball once or twice. Maybe at summer camp.
    Definitely the same thing though.

    Oh the homogenized safe kids of today.

    More like parents don't want to pay to send their kids to camp just to
    get pegged with tennis balls.

    We do try to keep the kids from getting hurt, but it doesn't always
    work, which sucks. Every time they get hurt, I have paperwork to do.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

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