Torn bicep

In article <[email hidden]>,

buddylee said:

I'm on my 2nd torn bicep. The first time I had the surgery, but since
have come across some guys who didn't have the surgery and said while
there is a visual impact, they have had no other complications.
Are they delusional or can a person get away with not going thru the
surgery with minimal problems?

Torn bicep or torn bicep tendon?

--
Keith

On 27 Jul 2005 06:52:16 -0700, "buddylee" <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

I'm on my 2nd torn bicep. The first time I had the surgery, but since
have come across some guys who didn't have the surgery and said while
there is a visual impact, they have had no other complications.
Are they delusional or can a person get away with not going thru the
surgery with minimal problems?

I know a guy who tore both of his. He'd tell you to get it fixed
right away.

Diagnosis last time was ruptured biceps/triceps tendon.

In article <[email hidden]>,

buddylee said:

Diagnosis last time was ruptured biceps/triceps tendon.

Not much of a diagnosis. There are 10 tendons involved with the biceps and
triceps and there are none common to the bicep/tricep.

Anyhow. If this isn't a troll and you actually tore a distal biceps tendon
what you do depends. If you tore both distal tendons you can expect to
lose considerable strength in elbow flexion and some strength in
pronation. But your brachioradialis will grow stronger and take some of
the slack up.

Your call.

--
Keith

a troll? I didn't realize I was causing trouble. I thought that was
what a troll did on a newsgroup and I am certainly not trying to cause
problems. I just know what the surgeon's opinion is. He's a surgeon
and surgeons want to cut and not explore ANY other option.
I wanted to hear if there was anyone here who had dealt with this in a
non-surgical way and what the outcome was for them.
My appt. with my surgeon is next week and I wanted to have some info
before I went.
My previous injury (ymmv) has not regained nearly the strength that I
had thought it would even following prescribed procedure as closely as
I could and I'm here to tell you that surgery was the most painful one
I've ever had. The recovery time seemed to drag on forever, too.
That tear was down closer to the elbow, this one is more up in the
front shoulder area (forgive my lack of knowlege of A&P)and not nearly
as painful at the outset of injury.

triceps and there are none common to the bicep/tricep.

Quoted message said:

Anyhow. If this isn't a troll and you actually tore a distal biceps tendon
what you do depends. If you tore both distal tendons you can expect to
lose considerable strength in elbow flexion and some strength in
pronation. But your brachioradialis will grow stronger and take some of
the slack up.

Your call.

--
Keith

In article <[email hidden]>,

buddylee said:

a troll? I didn't realize I was causing trouble. I thought that was
what a troll did on a newsgroup and I am certainly not trying to cause
problems. I just know what the surgeon's opinion is. He's a surgeon
and surgeons want to cut and not explore ANY other option.
I wanted to hear if there was anyone here who had dealt with this in a
non-surgical way and what the outcome was for them.
My appt. with my surgeon is next week and I wanted to have some info
before I went.
My previous injury (ymmv) has not regained nearly the strength that I
had thought it would even following prescribed procedure as closely as
I could and I'm here to tell you that surgery was the most painful one
I've ever had. The recovery time seemed to drag on forever, too.
That tear was down closer to the elbow, this one is more up in the
front shoulder area (forgive my lack of knowlege of A&P)and not nearly
as painful at the outset of injury.

triceps and there are none common to the bicep/tricep.

Quoted message said:

Anyhow. If this isn't a troll and you actually tore a distal biceps tendon
what you do depends. If you tore both distal tendons you can expect to
lose considerable strength in elbow flexion and some strength in
pronation. But your brachioradialis will grow stronger and take some of
the slack up.

Your call.

--
Keith

It's just that the information is wrong - you didn't rupture a
bicep/tricpe/tendon. There is no such thing. Anyhow. Might just be a
communication thing.

I tore both distal biceps tendons in my left arm. The surgery was
somewhat painful and the rehab was long and arduous, it is true. The
distal tendons are near the elbow - the radial tuberosity ( a small bump
on the radial bone) and the aponeurosis. Not repairing the distal
attachment will result in a noticable loss of strength.

What you appear to have done now is tore the proximal tendon - the
origin. The tendon of the long head of the biceps run up over the
bicipital groove and attaches to the supraglenoid process - part of the
shoulder bone. The short head attaches the humerus (the upper arm bone).
Since there are two attachments proximally surgical repair is far less
common and you normally don't notice much loss of strength. If the torn
attachment is the long head you may notice some loss of strength in
raising the arm as well. But there are a lot of other muscles which take
up the slack.

So bottom line is - at the shoulder there will be little or no loss of
function due to a rupture. At the elbow there will be a noticable loss
of function.

HTH.

--
Keith