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Re: Cancer Breakthrough

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  1. Quoted message said:

    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 2/14/2004 11:08 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    This is consistent with the level of information on this quack site.

    Well. indeed it must be correct.

    However,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p182.htm

    Here is the photo of the man behind the web site http://www.quack
    quack.com/index.html. He often attacks various health products and practices
    by making false claims about them, as if those claims came FROM them, and then
    knocks down these straw men of his own device.

    One of the most ***evil*** people on the web is a former psychiatrist who
    lashes out against just about every possible alternative health product or
    practice. It is, in fact, a hall of fame. If you are mentioned in his pages
    you can assume you are doing a good job!

    He attacks chelation therapy, of course, but he selects a "straw man" to
    attack. In other words, the early explanation of how chelation therapy works
    is well proven to be false, even though many people are still repeating those
    lies. But, the more thoughtful intravenous doctors have discarded this early
    theory and gone on to the second theory, mentioned on another page (Click
    Here).

    <More organized medicine mumbo jumbo snipped>

    From one who is so blinded he can't see cover-ups, and fraud, if they happen
    within conventional medicine.

    Jan

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 2/14/2004 11:08 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    This is consistent with the level of information on this quack site.

    Well. indeed it must be correct.

    However,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p182.htm

    It's funny to note that the one article they cite to "support" chelation
    therapy is from the 1950's. They neglect that evidence accumulated over
    the last decade shows that, at the very best, chelation has no
    detectable effect on atherosclerotic disease in smaller randomized
    studies. At the very best, that means, even if chelation does actually a
    beneficial effect on atherosclerosis, it is probably very small
    (certainly much, much smaller than the miraculous effects claimed by
    chelation proponents, who like to claim that chelation can be used
    instead of coronary artery bypass surgery). More likely, it's an
    indication that chelation is probably worthless as a therapy for
    atherosclerotic disease.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

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