thimerosal-news.com

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http://www.thimerosal-news.com

Thimerosal news offers information on the correlation between brain
damage and autism that may result from the exposure to the organic
compound form of mercury contained in Thimerosal. Vaccines containing
Thimerosal and current legal suits are also reviewed.

WOW! A website by an attorney looking for business.

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Quoted message said:

http://www.thimerosal-news.com

Thimerosal news offers information on the correlation between brain
damage and autism that may result from the exposure to the organic
compound form of mercury contained in Thimerosal. Vaccines containing
Thimerosal and current legal suits are also reviewed.

Lots of press releases and a way to find a lawyer, yet there is no evidence
here that Thimersal causes anything.

More fear-mongoring and advertising for ambulance chasers.

That's all.

Jeff

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark ProbertJanuary 10 said:

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://www.thimerosal-news.com

Thimerosal news offers information on the correlation between brain
damage and autism that may result from the exposure to the organic
compound form of mercury contained in Thimerosal. Vaccines containing
Thimerosal and current legal suits are also reviewed.

WOW! A website by an attorney looking for business.

Yeah! And if that's not scientific proof, then John doesn't know what
is.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:07:10 GMT, [email hidden] (David

Wright) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark ProbertJanuary 10 said:

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://www.thimerosal-news.com

Thimerosal news offers information on the correlation between brain
damage and autism that may result from the exposure to the organic
compound form of mercury contained in Thimerosal. Vaccines containing
Thimerosal and current legal suits are also reviewed.

WOW! A website by an attorney looking for business.

Yeah! And if that's not scientific proof, then John doesn't know what
is.

When drug companies discuss vaccine safety, they're automatically
wrong to John because they're only saying what they say in order to
sell more vaccines. When attorneys discuss mercury toxicity from
vaccines, they're automatically correct to John despite the fact that
they're only saying what they say in order to drum up business.

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

PF

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: thimerosal-news.com
From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 1/10/2004 1:07 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark ProbertJanuary 10 said:

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

http://www.thimerosal-news.com

Thimerosal news offers information on the correlation between brain
damage and autism that may result from the exposure to the organic
compound form of mercury contained in Thimerosal. Vaccines containing
Thimerosal and current legal suits are also reviewed.

WOW! A website by an attorney looking for business.

That's Mark's answer when the truth is presented.

Quoted message said:

Yeah!

Along come David!!!

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THIMEROSAL, NOT JOHN.

Jan

Quoted message said:

rom: [email hidden] (PF Riley)
Date: 1/10/2004 5:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

John has no critical
thinking skills.

This thread isn't about John.

The debunker *gang* goes on auto when they see the truth.

Jan

John has absolutely no credibility,

The only thing he has demonstrated is the ability to "cut and paste".

"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:07:10 GMT, [email hidden] (David

Wright) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark ProbertJanuary 10 said:

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> http://www.thimerosal-news.com
>
> Thimerosal news offers information on the correlation between brain
> damage and autism that may result from the exposure to the organic
> compound form of mercury contained in Thimerosal. Vaccines containing
> Thimerosal and current legal suits are also reviewed.

WOW! A website by an attorney looking for business.

Yeah! And if that's not scientific proof, then John doesn't know what
is.

When drug companies discuss vaccine safety, they're automatically
wrong to John because they're only saying what they say in order to
sell more vaccines. When attorneys discuss mercury toxicity from
vaccines, they're automatically correct to John despite the fact that
they're only saying what they say in order to drum up business.

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

PF

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: thimerosal-news.com
From: "Jeff" [email hidden]
Date: 1/10/04 4:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Lots of press releases and a way to find a lawyer, yet there is no evidence
here that Thimersal causes anything.

Have you ever read the MSDS concerning thimerosal?

Read it and report back.

As Bugs Bunny would say " what a moron".

DrC PhD

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: thimerosal-news.com
From: "D Sadler" [email hidden]
Date: 1/10/2004 8:31 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

John has absolutely no credibility,

W R O N G!

Quoted message said:

The only thing he has demonstrated is the ability to "cut and paste".

And tell the truth which exposes bainwashed evil organized medicine who puts
mercury in babies.

Jan

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

LOL. If I had no thinking skills I would be a programmed pharma robot
like you where all drug companies work for the greater good, all med
neg lawyers are evil, mercury is perfectly safe to inject into kids,
all vaccines are perfectly safe and saved us all from disease, HIV
causes aids, and there is no medicine except drugs which one day will
work to cure all diseases

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Quoted message said:

John has absolutely no credibility,

That is *exactly* why Jan Drew believes everything he says.

Quoted message said:

The only thing he has demonstrated is the ability to "cut and paste".

"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:07:10 GMT, [email hidden] (David

Wright) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Mark ProbertJanuary 10, 2004 <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
>"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:[email hidden]...
>> http://www.thimerosal-news.com
>>
>> Thimerosal news offers information on the correlation between brain
>> damage and autism that may result from the exposure to the organic
>> compound form of mercury contained in Thimerosal. Vaccines

containing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> Thimerosal and current legal suits are also reviewed.
>
>WOW! A website by an attorney looking for business.

Yeah! And if that's not scientific proof, then John doesn't know what
is.

When drug companies discuss vaccine safety, they're automatically
wrong to John because they're only saying what they say in order to
sell more vaccines. When attorneys discuss mercury toxicity from
vaccines, they're automatically correct to John despite the fact that
they're only saying what they say in order to drum up business.

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

PF

In article <[email hidden]>,

DRCEEPHD said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: thimerosal-news.com
From: "Jeff" [email hidden]
Date: 1/10/04 4:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Lots of press releases and a way to find a lawyer, yet there is no evidence
here that Thimersal causes anything.

Have you ever read the MSDS concerning thimerosal?

Read it and report back.

As Bugs Bunny would say " what a moron".

No, he'd say "what a maroon." "Moron" would be reserved for people
who can't even get a simple quotation right.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

LOL. If I had no thinking skills I would be a programmed pharma robot
like you where all drug companies work for the greater good,

Really? I have not seen anyone argue that drug companies work for the
greater good. They work for the greater profit for their shareholders.
However, they do make some great and life-saving products.

Quoted message said:

all med neg lawyers are evil

That is not true, either. However, many of them are greedy.

Quoted message said:

mercury is perfectly safe to inject into kids

No, it isn't. That is why it has been removed from most vaccines.

Quoted message said:

all vaccines are perfectly safe and saved us all from disease

Vaccines are a major public health acheivement. They have ended smallpox in
the world and are close to ending polio. The have prevented much illness and
death from diseases like smallpox, rubella and hepatitis.

Quoted message said:

HIV causes aids

True.

Quoted message said:

and there is no medicine except drugs which one day will
work to cure all diseases

I don't remember anyone making this claim.

Jeff

In article <[email hidden]>,

john said:

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

LOL. If I had no thinking skills I would be a programmed pharma robot
like you where all drug companies work for the greater good, all med
neg lawyers are evil, mercury is perfectly safe to inject into kids,
all vaccines are perfectly safe and saved us all from disease, HIV
causes aids, and there is no medicine except drugs which one day will
work to cure all diseases

Instead, you're a dimwit who makes ridiculous generalizations about
medicine. But at least you're happy in the hog wallow between your
own ears. Actually learning anything about science would require real
work, and that's so much more difficult than cutting-and-pasting
articles you don't understand but you think support you.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

(john) said:

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

LOL. If I had no thinking skills I would be a programmed pharma robot
like you where all drug companies work for the greater good, all med
neg lawyers are evil, mercury is perfectly safe to inject into kids,
all vaccines are perfectly safe and saved us all from disease, HIV
causes aids, and there is no medicine except drugs which one day will
work to cure all diseases

I notice you clipped the paragraph above my sentence above where I
demonstrated that you have no critical thinking skills. Care to
comment on it directly?

PF

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

When drug companies discuss vaccine safety, they're automatically
wrong to John because they're only saying what they say in order to
sell more vaccines.

Do drug companies discuss vaccine safety? Gosh, I guess they do,
however paying any attention to them would be like listening to a Fox
on hen house security. You can see how they put profits afore kids
health http://www.whale.to/vaccines/profits.html and then you can see
why I don't pay the slightest attention to what they say about safety.
And don't forget their fear of going bust when the truth hits the fan
on the real vaccine side effects like autism.

Quoted message said:

When attorneys discuss mercury toxicity from
vaccines, they're automatically correct to John despite the fact that
they're only saying what they say in order to drum up business.

I know they are correct in this instance as I have spent years
collecting the same evidence they have been collecting on vaccine
ingredients http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ingredients.html along with
hundreds of testimonies of vaccine damaged kids--and it is just
propaganda to say their evidence isn't acceptable--video evidence by
the boxful, so your spin that all lawyers are just after the money is
just propaganda, and since when did lawyers take on cases they didn't
think they could win?

Your monopoly medical industry set up created the situation where
families had to use lawyers to get justice as the governments work for
the corporations so they put everything in the way of natural justice.
That only 80% damaged law we had here is a nice illustration of that
of the satanic government set up that is meant to compensate victims
here

"Some were deemed to be under 80% disabled as required by the Act,
this was always considered by the patients unjust, if the child was
79% it did not qualify but it if was 80% it did."---Wm. H Wain BEM

that is after you fight them all the way in the first place assuming
they haven't shredded your medical records:

"The main reason given was lack of medical evidence, in many case the
medical records had been "lost" or "destroyed". We had the experience
of this ourselves, when we appealed we received the evidence from the
Unit only to discover that the first four years of Paul's records were
missing from his file..............How many were refused payment
because of "lost" medical files is anyone's guess."---Wm. H Wain BEM

"The Department of Health has admitted that at least 400 records sent
to its Committee on the Safety of Medicines in the Eighties no longer
exist. As a result, dozens of families with sick children have lost
out on payments from the Government of up to £100,000 under the
Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme. They have been forced to abandon legal
action for compensation because essential information was missing
which may have proved their child did not have the condition before
the vaccine."--Media Jan 2003

or change a medical definition to avoid liability:

"Encephalopathy was redefined so that the diagnosis requires as a sine
qua non in excess of 24 hours of a diminished level of consciousness,
a criterion which is far more restrictive than that of the leading
epidemiological study of pertussis vaccine injury, the British
National Childhood Encephalopathy Study (NCES). Moreover, seizures
have been removed from the Table, although that the pertussis vaccine
can cause seizures is uncontested (and warned in the manufacturer's
package insert)."--Marcel Kingsbourne

and so on.

Quoted message said:

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

Riley, you have no thinking skills at all, you can't think freely when
you are in a group, you have to think what the groupthink wants you to
think. We know who creates the allopath groupthink, the drug/vaccine
industry, and you demonstrate that every single time you post your
garbage. And it is obvious to those of us who think for themselves
and who study psychology that you project out your complete lack of
thinking ability onto me.

"He (Krishnamurti) said he did not want to belong to any organization
of a spiritual kind, because such an organization becomes a weakness,
a bondage, and cripples the individual. He said that he did not want
any followers or disciples, because the moment you follow someone you
cease to follow Truth. He said that no one holds the key to Truth,
that key is your own self, and in the purification and
incorruptibility of that self alone."---Asit Chandmal (one Thousand
Suns)

And being a memeber of the church of allopathy has sure crippled you

cheers, and I have to say they brainwashed you well, you can't fault
them on their brainwashing/programming skills

"They take immaculate care of their bodies as far as health goes. They
are fit and trim and they use natural medicines. The American Medical
Association is fashioned to prescribe drugs and perform various
treatments that although they may be unsuspecting, tend to weed out
the weaker species. The Council views the AMA's 'modern medicine' as
barbaric. Their plans are to have mind-enhanced health associates,
like some of the USC medical and dental graduates, who provide the new
health care for the Elite, after the takeover. .... Miracle
medicines and herbs (God's pharmacy) will keep the body
healthy."—Brice Taylor (Thanks For The Memories p 283)

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

When drug companies discuss vaccine safety, they're automatically
wrong to John because they're only saying what they say in order to
sell more vaccines.

Do drug companies discuss vaccine safety? Gosh, I guess they do,
however paying any attention to them would be like listening to a Fox
on hen house security. You can see how they put profits afore kids
health http://www.whale.to/vaccines/profits.html and then you can see
why I don't pay the slightest attention to what they say about safety.
And don't forget their fear of going bust when the truth hits the fan
on the real vaccine side effects like autism.

That doesn't make sense. The data to date clearly show no association
between autism and vaccines. And there is no plausable mechanism for
vaccines to cause autism. Furthermore, kids who later become autistic show
very subtle signs that their peers don't show (they demonstrated this by
looking at videos of kids before they became autistic and compared them to
videos of kids who did not become autistic -- without the people looking at
the videos knowing who was autistic).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When attorneys discuss mercury toxicity from
vaccines, they're automatically correct to John despite the fact that
they're only saying what they say in order to drum up business.

I know they are correct in this instance as I have spent years
collecting the same evidence they have been collecting on vaccine
ingredients http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ingredients.html along with
hundreds of testimonies of vaccine damaged kids--and it is just
propaganda to say their evidence isn't acceptable--video evidence by
the boxful, so your spin that all lawyers are just after the money is
just propaganda, and since when did lawyers take on cases they didn't
think they could win?

I think the word "testimoney" is more accurate. They are looking for money
and someone to blame.

Quoted message said:

Your monopoly medical industry set up created the situation where
families had to use lawyers to get justice as the governments work for
the corporations so they put everything in the way of natural justice.
That only 80% damaged law we had here is a nice illustration of that
of the satanic government set up that is meant to compensate victims
here

"Some were deemed to be under 80% disabled as required by the Act,
this was always considered by the patients unjust, if the child was
79% it did not qualify but it if was 80% it did."---Wm. H Wain BEM

that is after you fight them all the way in the first place assuming
they haven't shredded your medical records:

"The main reason given was lack of medical evidence, in many case the
medical records had been "lost" or "destroyed". We had the experience
of this ourselves, when we appealed we received the evidence from the
Unit only to discover that the first four years of Paul's records were
missing from his file..............How many were refused payment
because of "lost" medical files is anyone's guess."---Wm. H Wain BEM

"The Department of Health has admitted that at least 400 records sent
to its Committee on the Safety of Medicines in the Eighties no longer
exist. As a result, dozens of families with sick children have lost
out on payments from the Government of up to £100,000 under the
Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme. They have been forced to abandon legal
action for compensation because essential information was missing
which may have proved their child did not have the condition before
the vaccine."--Media Jan 2003

or change a medical definition to avoid liability:

"Encephalopathy was redefined so that the diagnosis requires as a sine
qua non in excess of 24 hours of a diminished level of consciousness,
a criterion which is far more restrictive than that of the leading
epidemiological study of pertussis vaccine injury, the British
National Childhood Encephalopathy Study (NCES). Moreover, seizures
have been removed from the Table, although that the pertussis vaccine
can cause seizures is uncontested (and warned in the manufacturer's
package insert)."--Marcel Kingsbourne

and so on.

Quoted message said:

If this makes no sense to you, simply remember: John has no critical
thinking skills.

Riley, you have no thinking skills at all, you can't think freely when
you are in a group, you have to think what the groupthink wants you to
think. We know who creates the allopath groupthink, the drug/vaccine
industry, and you demonstrate that every single time you post your
garbage. And it is obvious to those of us who think for themselves
and who study psychology that you project out your complete lack of
thinking ability onto me.

Gee, this is an intelligent comment.

So far, all I have seen you do is to repeat the anti-vaccine anti-medicine
propaganda. And you reference that horrible whale site. The author of that
site is too ashamed to put his name on it. I can't blame him. He clearly has
no clue about science, medicine or vaccines.

Quoted message said:

"He (Krishnamurti) said he did not want to belong to any organization
of a spiritual kind, because such an organization becomes a weakness,
a bondage, and cripples the individual. He said that he did not want
any followers or disciples, because the moment you follow someone you
cease to follow Truth. He said that no one holds the key to Truth,
that key is your own self, and in the purification and
incorruptibility of that self alone."---Asit Chandmal (one Thousand
Suns)

Quoted message said:

And being a memeber of the church of allopathy has sure crippled you

cheers, and I have to say they brainwashed you well, you can't fault
them on their brainwashing/programming skills

"They take immaculate care of their bodies as far as health goes. They
are fit and trim and they use natural medicines. The American Medical
Association is fashioned to prescribe drugs and perform various
treatments that although they may be unsuspecting, tend to weed out
the weaker species. The Council views the AMA's 'modern medicine' as
barbaric. Their plans are to have mind-enhanced health associates,
like some of the USC medical and dental graduates, who provide the new
health care for the Elite, after the takeover. .... Miracle
medicines and herbs (God's pharmacy) will keep the body
healthy."-Brice Taylor (Thanks For The Memories p 283)

This "barbaric" medicine has saved thousands of lives of people with cancer
(the cure rate is around 50% and over 75% for kids with cancer). It is able
to let kids with asthma go and play football, baseball and hopscotch. It
prevents millions of infections with diseases like smallpox, chickenpox,
measles, mumps, rubella (which causes birth defects) and polio.

It is not perfect. Far from it. But, because it is based on science rather
than conjecture (like natural "medicine"😉, it works and is getting better.

Jeff

(john) said:

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

When drug companies discuss vaccine safety, they're automatically
wrong to John because they're only saying what they say in order to
sell more vaccines.

Do drug companies discuss vaccine safety? Gosh, I guess they do,
however paying any attention to them would be like listening to a Fox
on hen house security. You can see how they put profits afore kids
health http://www.whale.to/vaccines/profits.html and then you can see
why I don't pay the slightest attention to what they say about safety.
And don't forget their fear of going bust when the truth hits the fan
on the real vaccine side effects like autism.

I ask John why he thinks the drug companies are wrong when they
discuss vaccine safety. He answers that it's because they lie to make
money.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When attorneys discuss mercury toxicity from
vaccines, they're automatically correct to John despite the fact that
they're only saying what they say in order to drum up business.

I know they are correct in this instance as I have spent years
collecting the same evidence they have been collecting on vaccine
ingredients http://www.whale.to/vaccines/ingredients.html along with
hundreds of testimonies of vaccine damaged kids--and it is just
propaganda to say their evidence isn't acceptable--video evidence by
the boxful, so your spin that all lawyers are just after the money is
just propaganda, and since when did lawyers take on cases they didn't
think they could win?

I then ask John why he thinks attorneys are correct when they claim
vaccines are toxic, when, by doing so, they can make money too, even
if they're lying. He answers that he "knows" they are correct based on
anecdotes he has collected, then says that to claim someone could lie
just to make money is propaganda, even though he says exactly that
about drug companies just one paragraph before.

I therefore again stand by my assertion that John has no thinking
skills. What's even more pathetic is he won't even understand how
fundamentally stupid and foolish he looks.

PF

[email hidden] (PF Riley) wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I ask John why he thinks the drug companies are wrong when they
discuss vaccine safety. He answers that it's because they lie to make
money.

You seem to be under the delusion that anyone apart from me and pharma
agents reads your posts. God knows why I do. I guess I like annoying
blind know-it-alls.

Quoted message said:

I then ask John why he thinks attorneys are correct when they claim
vaccines are toxic, when, by doing so, they can make money too, even
if they're lying. He answers that he "knows" they are correct based on
anecdotes he has collected,

You don't like parent "anecdotes" with video evidence for obvious
reasons, but I guess you are blind to the CDC studies, Grier studies,
Binstock research, and the studies showing thimerosol dangers
http://www.whale.to/a/thimerosal6.html quite apart from the obvious
dangers of injecting mercury into babies

But, then, blindness is one of the necessary traits of vaccinators

"The blood-brain barrier is not intact in infants until at least 6
weeks of life. This is why a newborn with a fever must be subjected
to a spinal tap to rule out menningitis. Any virus or bacteria that a
newborn is exposed to can go directly to the nervous system. This is
why the Hepatitis B vaccine at birth is so dangerous. Between 1991 and
1999, when the shot contained thimerisol, giving it at birth would
have resulted in mercury crossing into the brain since the blood-brain
barrier was not yet intact. As a nurse, I'm concerned that this
information about the normal timing of a blood-brain barrier forming
is not more readily known. I think this normal delay in the forming
of a blood-brain barrier is an important piece of the puzzle and one
of the reasons for the surge of autism in the 90's."----Mary Barbera
RN, MSN

"A single vaccine given to a six-pound newborn is the equivalent of
giving a 180-pound adult 30 vaccinations on the same day. Include in
this the toxic effects of high levels of aluminum and formaldehyde
contained in some vaccines, and the synergist toxicity could be
increased to unknown levels. Further, it is very well known that
infants do not produce significant levels of bile or have adult renal
capacity for several months after birth. Bilary transport is the
major biochemical route by which mercury is removed from the body, and
infants cannot do this very well. They also do not possess the renal
(kidney) capacity to remove aluminum. Additionally, mercury is a
well-known inhibitor of kidney function."--Boyd Haley Ph.D.