Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???

Stop consuming most grains, especially the ones with gluten like wheat &
rye. These stop and plug up your digestion causing back pressure. Heal your
hiatal hernia to an acceptable level and change your pH levels so your
digestion works better. Usually magnesium, sodium and potasium works to
lower your body acid levels. This can take months to effect.

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices?

What

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ingredients, etc. Please respond. Thank you.

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Subject: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
From: [email hidden] (Chat328585)
Date: 12/25/03 8:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices?
What
ingredients, etc. Please respond. Thank you.

Fresh, home made juices help to alkalinize the body. By themselves, juices
cannot heal a hiatal hernia or stop acid reflux.

To heal a hiatal hernia and stop acid reflux, you must:

Stop eating in the manner that you promote indigestion. Arrange your meals so
that you eat mono meals. That is, one type of food at a sitting. Fruit,
protein, or carbohydrate but do not mix them. Also, use some good digestive
enzymes as a digestive aid.

Alkalinize your dietary. A sick body is acidic. A healthy body is alkaline.
Most fresh, uncooked foods are alkaline. Most grains are acidic. All meats
are acidic.
Juicing helps greatly here. Check you saliva pH with narrow range pH paper.
Healthy saliva will be slightly alkaline when eating carbohydrates.

Begin a detoxifying regimine.

The acid reflux can be stopped within days, and the hiatal hernia healed within
months.

DrC PhD

Just to clarify. Even though a lemon may be very acidic, it produces an
alkaline effect / response in the body.

The hiatal hernia will probably never go away but by getting it under
control you will improve it and live much better with it. The alternative is
to continue the way you are and learn to unintentionally vomit regularly as
it gets worse. Arthritis, tendonitis and many other auto-immune diseases may
become your friend.

Go see a doctor about it. They know nothing about this. Watch your wallet
carefully. Surgery is just a bad patch and makes the damage permanent.

Drink room temp water (about 8 oz) in the morning and then bounce on your
heels, pulling the herniated valve back down through the diaphram. This may
help some if done regularly.

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Subject: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
From: [email hidden] (Chat328585)
Date: 12/25/03 8:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices?
What
ingredients, etc. Please respond. Thank you.

Fresh, home made juices help to alkalinize the body. By themselves,

juices

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cannot heal a hiatal hernia or stop acid reflux.

To heal a hiatal hernia and stop acid reflux, you must:

Stop eating in the manner that you promote indigestion. Arrange your meals

so

Quoted message said:

that you eat mono meals. That is, one type of food at a sitting. Fruit,
protein, or carbohydrate but do not mix them. Also, use some good

digestive

Quoted message said:

enzymes as a digestive aid.

Alkalinize your dietary. A sick body is acidic. A healthy body is

alkaline.

Quoted message said:

Most fresh, uncooked foods are alkaline. Most grains are acidic. All

meats

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are acidic.
Juicing helps greatly here. Check you saliva pH with narrow range pH

paper.

Quoted message said:

Healthy saliva will be slightly alkaline when eating carbohydrates.

Begin a detoxifying regimine.

The acid reflux can be stopped within days, and the hiatal hernia healed

within

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months.

DrC PhD

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Subject: Re: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
Date: 12/26/03 8:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Just to clarify. Even though a lemon may be very acidic, it produces an
alkaline effect / response in the body.

True. The citric acid makes the lemon test acidic to the chemist, but in the
body the minerals will test to be alkaline. Only the allopath doesn't know the
difference or really give a [censored].

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The hiatal hernia will probably never go away

Can't agree here. The hiatal hernia is like having two stomachs. A
pre-stomach prior to your normal stomach wherein the tissues of the throat have
changed into psuedo-stomach cells to avoid being digested by the gastric
contents and the pepsin.

Once you have stopped the indigestion, corrected the toxemia, and allowed the
sphincter valve which shuts off the stomach from the throat to renew its
ability to function, you will not have a hiatal hernia. What you will have is
a very real tendency to get it again if you fail to maintain your health.

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Arthritis, tendonitis and many other auto-immune diseases may
become your friend.

These dis-eases are typical of metabolic acidosis which affects nearly all
Americans and those who eat and live like Americans.

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Go see a doctor about it. They know nothing about this.

True enough.

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Watch your wallet
carefully.

True again.

The medical gods do know how to charge. Inflation may be only 2% but your
medical bill will go up 15 to 20% or more per year.

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Surgery is just a bad patch and makes the damage permanent.

Sadly, very, very true. Ever had your stomach pulled up above your diaphram
and re-constructed as many have had for a hiatal hernia?

At least they tell you that you will never be able to vomit again.

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Drink room temp water (about 8 oz) in the morning and then bounce on your
heels, pulling the herniated valve back down through the diaphram. This may
help some if done regularly.

Don't know about that, but I do believe in "lymphasizing" whereby you bounce on
a mini trampoline for about 10 minutes a day to promote lymphatic movement.

The movement of the blood is esential for providing the elements of life.

The movement of the lymph is essential for the removing the eliminations of
life.

Failure to allow the lymph to move for even 24 hours results in death for the
human. We suffocate and die in our own uneliminated cellular waste.

DrC PhD.

That is just as the surgeon described it! I have not heard about the
vomitting disability. This makes total sense.

Boy these alternative surgeons can really be a no-no. People should stick to
mainstream natural medicine whenever possible.

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Surgery is just a bad patch and makes the damage permanent.

Sadly, very, very true. Ever had your stomach pulled up above your

diaphram

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and re-constructed as many have had for a hiatal hernia?

At least they tell you that you will never be able to vomit again.

DrC PhD.

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Subject: Re: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
Date: 12/26/03 8:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Just to clarify. Even though a lemon may be very acidic, it produces an
alkaline effect / response in the body.

True. The citric acid makes the lemon test acidic to the chemist, but in the
body the minerals will test to be alkaline. Only the allopath doesn't know the
difference or really give a [censored].

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The hiatal hernia will probably never go away

Can't agree here. The hiatal hernia is like having two stomachs. A
pre-stomach prior to your normal stomach wherein the tissues of the throat have
changed into psuedo-stomach cells to avoid being digested by the gastric
contents and the pepsin.

Once you have stopped the indigestion, corrected the toxemia, and allowed the
sphincter valve which shuts off the stomach from the throat to renew its
ability to function, you will not have a hiatal hernia. What you will have is
a very real tendency to get it again if you fail to maintain your health.

"Tendency to get it again" -- nope, it didn't go away. The s/s merely
diminished. The cardiac sphincter may or may not function as it
ideally should, but that's certainly quite different than a hiatal
hernia.

Quoted message said:

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Arthritis, tendonitis and many other auto-immune diseases may
become your friend.

These dis-eases are typical of metabolic acidosis which affects nearly all
Americans and those who eat and live like Americans.

You need to differentiate between the various kinds of arthritis --
osteoarthritis is a result of use over time -- not at all like
rheumatoid arthritis. And to classify tendonitis as an auto-immune
disease ignores the fact that repetitive stress & traumatic injuries
cause it.

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Go see a doctor about it. They know nothing about this.

True enough.

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Watch your wallet
carefully.

True again.

The medical gods do know how to charge. Inflation may be only 2% but your
medical bill will go up 15 to 20% or more per year.

Part of these increases can be attributed to the spiraling cost of
malpractice insurance -- the legal gods know how to get some pretty
impressive money out of doctors, hospitals, & other health care
providers.

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Surgery is just a bad patch and makes the damage permanent.

Sadly, very, very true. Ever had your stomach pulled up above your diaphram
and re-constructed as many have had for a hiatal hernia?

The surgery consists of repairing the hernia -- much simpler.

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At least they tell you that you will never be able to vomit again.

Quoted message said:

Drink room temp water (about 8 oz) in the morning and then bounce on your
heels, pulling the herniated valve back down through the diaphram. This may
help some if done regularly.

Don't know about that, but I do believe in "lymphasizing" whereby you bounce on
a mini trampoline for about 10 minutes a day to promote lymphatic movement.

Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way
to move lymphatic fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Quoted message said:

The movement of the blood is esential for providing the elements of life.

The movement of the lymph is essential for the removing the eliminations of
life.

Failure to allow the lymph to move for even 24 hours results in death for the
human. We suffocate and die in our own uneliminated cellular waste.

As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid
movement does not cause death in 24 hours. The only time the entire
lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died -- not vice
versa.

Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

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not-really-a-DRCEEPHD said:

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Subject: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
From: [email hidden] (Chat328585)
Date: 12/25/03 8:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to rid myself of Acid Reflux with natural juices?
What
ingredients, etc. Please respond. Thank you.

Fresh, home made juices help to alkalinize the body. By themselves, juices
cannot heal a hiatal hernia or stop acid reflux.

To heal a hiatal hernia and stop acid reflux, you must:

Stop eating in the manner that you promote indigestion. Arrange your meals so
that you eat mono meals. That is, one type of food at a sitting. Fruit,
protein, or carbohydrate but do not mix them. Also, use some good digestive
enzymes as a digestive aid.

Alkalinize your dietary. A sick body is acidic. A healthy body is alkaline.

A common alt health myth. The pH of the body is very tightly
controlled, and the only thing that really changes much in acidity
is the urine. Your blood can only range from a pH of about 7.2 to
7.6 (normal is 7.4). All of these are slightly alkaline, and if
your blood pH goes outside those ranges for long, the undertaker
has a new customer.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Subject: Re: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
Date: 12/26/03 8:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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"Tendency to get it again" -- nope, it didn't go away. The s/s merely
diminished. The cardiac sphincter may or may not function as it
ideally should, but that's certainly quite different than a hiatal
hernia.

You clearly cannot distinquish cause and effect. The constant
indigestion puts pressure upon the cardiac sphincter valve. The
indigestion breeds toxemia and weaking of the valve. Result? The
stomach gastric juice is allowed to contact the cells of the
esophagus. In response, the cells change to survive and resemble
stomach tissue. The individual then develops two stomachs...a pre
stomach and the real stomach. This is the hiatal hernia.

Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have
chosen to use thier brains.)

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You need to differentiate between the various kinds of arthritis --
osteoarthritis is a result of use over time -- not at all like
rheumatoid arthritis. And to classify tendonitis as an auto-immune
disease ignores the fact that repetitive stress & traumatic injuries
cause it.

No I do not. In the beginning there were only 5 kinds of arthritis.
Today there are still only 5 kinds of arthritis.

All the billions of dollars going into arthritis research has resulted
in one thing. Not the cause of arthritis. Not a "cure" for
arthritis. What we have is that the rhumetologist can now diagonse
100 different forms of arthritis. BIG DEAL!!

Quoted message said:

Part of these increases can be attributed to the spiraling cost of
malpractice insurance -- the legal gods know how to get some pretty
impressive money out of doctors, hospitals, & other health care
providers.

I agree that malpractice insurance increases are an abomnation. Yet
they are insuring a false theory of disease. What else could you
expect?

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The surgery consists of repairing the hernia -- much simpler.

Are you really that stupid? The "much simpler" repairing of the
hernia is the cutting out of the esophagus and pulling the stomach up
above the diaphram.

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Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way
to move lymphatic fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published
scientific literature published by those MDs who study the lymphatic
sysem.

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As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid
movement does not cause death in 24 hours. The only time the entire
lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died -- not vice
versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

Even the American Indian knew how to do this. The Indian would give
away all his personal possessions. He would then go out to the burial
grounds and proceed to do what is necessary to stop the flow of lymph.
He would then die, and his relatives would come an bury him the next
day.

Prisoners of war have done the same thing when imprisoned to shorten
their misery.

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Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

You are not only cranky but an ignorant, misinformed [censored].

DrC PhD.

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>Subject: Re: Juicing - Acid Reflux Help???
>From: "Gymmy Bob" [email hidden]
>Date: 12/26/03 8:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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"Tendency to get it again" -- nope, it didn't go away. The s/s merely
diminished. The cardiac sphincter may or may not function as it
ideally should, but that's certainly quite different than a hiatal
hernia.

You clearly cannot distinquish cause and effect. The constant
indigestion puts pressure upon the cardiac sphincter valve. The
indigestion breeds toxemia and weaking of the valve. Result? The
stomach gastric juice is allowed to contact the cells of the
esophagus. In response, the cells change to survive and resemble
stomach tissue. The individual then develops two stomachs...a pre
stomach and the real stomach. This is the hiatal hernia.

Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of
A&P background. Not surprising in light of the other BS you post
here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what a herniation of the
diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not
mutate from those of one bodily structure into another, dumbass.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have
chosen to use thier brains.)

And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most
subjects -- although your spelling of "their" in a sentence where you
claim someone else isn't using their brain is an amusing indication of
your stupidity.

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You need to differentiate between the various kinds of arthritis --
osteoarthritis is a result of use over time -- not at all like
rheumatoid arthritis. And to classify tendonitis as an auto-immune
disease ignores the fact that repetitive stress & traumatic injuries
cause it.

No I do not. In the beginning there were only 5 kinds of arthritis.
Today there are still only 5 kinds of arthritis.

All the billions of dollars going into arthritis research has resulted
in one thing. Not the cause of arthritis. Not a "cure" for
arthritis. What we have is that the rhumetologist can now diagonse
100 different forms of arthritis. BIG DEAL!!

I see -- you actually don't understand there are different types of
arthritis & not every one is an auto-immune disorder. There isn't
*one* cause of arthritis & your inability to realize that speaks
volumes about your ignorance WRT the condition. Your claim that
tendonitis is an auto-immune disease is laughable & only shows that
you don't understand the mechanisms which cause the problem. You need
to find a library or bookstore where you can remedy your lack of basic
health care knowledge -- there are no doubt some children's coloring
books that you could check out that would increase the miniscule scope
of your familiarity of the human body & its pathologies.

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Part of these increases can be attributed to the spiraling cost of
malpractice insurance -- the legal gods know how to get some pretty
impressive money out of doctors, hospitals, & other health care
providers.

I agree that malpractice insurance increases are an abomnation. Yet
they are insuring a false theory of disease. What else could you
expect?

Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under
examination. The invention of microscopes alone dug a hole & buried
most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

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The surgery consists of repairing the hernia -- much simpler.

Are you really that stupid? The "much simpler" repairing of the
hernia is the cutting out of the esophagus and pulling the stomach up
above the diaphram.

Where did you glean this tidbit of misinformation?? The esophagus is
NOT "cut out" -- but it isn't surprising that you'd think such a thing
because your knowledge of the subject could be written on a postage
stamp, with plenty of room left blank.

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Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way
to move lymphatic fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published
scientific literature published by those MDs who study the lymphatic
sysem.

Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal
movement of lymphatic fluid. Many of the lymphatic vessels are not
superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need to study a bit of
elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

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As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid
movement does not cause death in 24 hours. The only time the entire
lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died -- not vice
versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

Even the American Indian knew how to do this. The Indian would give
away all his personal possessions. He would then go out to the burial
grounds and proceed to do what is necessary to stop the flow of lymph.
He would then die, and his relatives would come an bury him the next
day.

Prisoners of war have done the same thing when imprisoned to shorten
their misery.

Such swill -- "proceed to do what is necessary to stop the flow of
lymph" -- idiot, that's impossible unless the person is actually dead.
If the person kills themselves, of course the lymphatic fluid stops
-- along with the circulation of the blood, the beating of the heart,
the exchange of O2 & nutrients for cellular waste. Telling lies about
Native American practice & POW's in a pathetic attempt to embellish
your misinformed parody of knowledge is completely disgusting & you
should be ashamed of yourself.

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Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

You are not only cranky but an ignorant, misinformed [censored].

DrC PhD.

Better you should spend some time learning the basics of A&P,
pharmacology, surgical procedures, & pathology instead of displaying
your stunning lack of intelligence & education as you continue to do
time & time again. Your "PhD." needs to be in quotation marks,
because it is just as fictitious as the drivel you present in lieu of
facts. You proudly wear your idiocy like a shiny badge -- instead of
realizing it's a label that identifies you as a misinformed simpleton
extraordinaire. No doubt you will continue to do so.

Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

[email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write.
This is very important, and since I am married to a nurse, ever more
important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the
insults of the quackwatch group.

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Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of
A&P background. Not surprising in light of the other BS you post
here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what a herniation of the
diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not
mutate from those of one bodily structure into another, dumbass.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have
chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky
[censored].

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And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most
subjects -- although your spelling of "their" in a sentence where you
claim someone else isn't using their brain is an amusing indication of
your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was
not a typo. Typical of dumb, cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to
what is going on.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under
examination. The invention of microscopes alone dug a hole & buried
most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ
theory of disease. Be'champ and Bernard proved this way, way , way
back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed confession
that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is
everything."

Quoted message said:

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Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way
to move lymphatic fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published
scientific literature published by those MDs who study the lymphatic
sysem.

I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no
knowledge of the lymphatic system or how it works.

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Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal
movement of lymphatic fluid. Many of the lymphatic vessels are not
superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need to study a bit of
elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

Again, read what those who study the lymphatics have to say. You are
quite mis-informed.

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As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid
movement does not cause death in 24 hours. The only time the entire
lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died -- not vice
versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

She really does not have a clue. The most respected physiology
textbook in the world agrees with what I have said. Try reading
Guyton's textbook of medical physiology.

Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I
would rather have one good, caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that
10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons, potions, and
lotions trying to poison me back into health.

DrC PhD.

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[email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write.
This is very important, and since I am married to a nurse, ever more
important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the
insults of the quackwatch group.

One doesn't have to be part of Quackwatch or any other group to spot
you for the idiot you are, but your streak of being misinformed just
keeps going & going......

Quoted message said:

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Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of
A&P background. Not surprising in light of the other BS you post
here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what a herniation of the
diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not
mutate from those of one bodily structure into another, dumbass.

Quoted message said:

Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have
chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky
[censored].

Quoted message said:

And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most
subjects -- although your spelling of "their" in a sentence where you
claim someone else isn't using their brain is an amusing indication of
your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was
not a typo. Typical of dumb, cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to
what is going on.

When calling another person stupid, it would be expected by most
intelligent people that you would eliminate typo's, "Dr."
Know-nothing. At the very least, the sentence itself should be free
of errors. You're still quite the amusing twerp to think otherwise.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under
examination. The invention of microscopes alone dug a hole & buried
most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ
theory of disease. Be'champ and Bernard proved this way, way , way
back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed confession
that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is
everything."

Golly "Dr." -- it's good to know where you've gotten your
misinformation -- from an era that had yet to develop the computer,
fiber optics, & many, many other ideas that those of us in the current
century utilize on an everday basis. Interesting that you feel that
discoveries in science & health care came to a screeching halt when
horse & buggy was the common mode of transportation.......

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> Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective way
> to move lymphatic fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published
scientific literature published by those MDs who study the lymphatic
sysem.

I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no
knowledge of the lymphatic system or how it works.

And you are quite successful at being dumb & dumber, "Dr." Your
inability to refute my position WRT the lymphatic system is noted for
what it is -- your lack of knowledge on the subject.

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Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal
movement of lymphatic fluid. Many of the lymphatic vessels are not
superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need to study a bit of
elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

Again, read what those who study the lymphatics have to say. You are
quite mis-informed.

Already have -- taught it too. Perhaps someone could explain it to
you in simple terms you'd understand.

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> As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid
> movement does not cause death in 24 hours. The only time the entire
> lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died -- not vice
> versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

She really does not have a clue. The most respected physiology
textbook in the world agrees with what I have said. Try reading
Guyton's textbook of medical physiology.

"The most respected physiology textbook in the world"? LOLOLOL!
Right there you've exposed yourself as the sad little buffoon you are
-- as if any one book would be referred to as such!

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Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I
would rather have one good, caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that
10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons, potions, and
lotions trying to poison me back into health.

You *should* apologize to nurses everywhere -- for your overwhelming
ignorance & your unwillingness to correct it. "Loving"? Get "loving"
from family & friends -- health care professionals are there to
perform a service, to provide care, to educate their patients. And
since nurses administer the meds, assist with the surgeries, & provide
treatments prescribed by the doctors you say poison their patients --
you've once again demonstrated that your understanding of health &
medical care is non-existent.

The mail order diploma press where you got your "doctorate" for $25
may be demanding you return it soon -- you're making them look bad.

Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

Don't let them get you down. You are a wealth of information here and many
have much respect for you. Do not destroy that Godlike image for yourself.

"drceephd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

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My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write.
This is very important, and since I am married to a nurse, ever more
important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the
insults of the quackwatch group.

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Your misinformed definition of a hiatal hernia shows us your lack of
A&P background. Not surprising in light of the other BS you post
here..... Perhaps you should actually look up what a herniation of the
diaphragm is before making a jackass out of yourself. Cells do not
mutate from those of one bodily structure into another, dumbass.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have
chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky
[censored].

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And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most
subjects -- although your spelling of "their" in a sentence where you
claim someone else isn't using their brain is an amusing indication of
your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was
not a typo. Typical of dumb, cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to
what is going on.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under
examination. The invention of microscopes alone dug a hole & buried
most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ
theory of disease. Be'champ and Bernard proved this way, way , way
back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed confession
that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is
everything."

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> Any activity where the muscles are contracting (the most effective

way

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> to move lymphatic fluids through the lymphatic system) will do.

Dumb and dumber. Clearly you have not read any of the published
scientific literature published by those MDs who study the lymphatic
sysem.

I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no
knowledge of the lymphatic system or how it works.

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Skeletal muscle movement provides most of the impetus for the normal
movement of lymphatic fluid. Many of the lymphatic vessels are not
superficial, but deep within the muscles. You need to study a bit of
elementary A&P, Dr. Know-nothing.

Again, read what those who study the lymphatics have to say. You are
quite mis-informed.

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> As evidenced by lymphedema, localized impairment of lymphatic fluid
> movement does not cause death in 24 hours. The only time the entire
> lymphatic system would stop would be if the person died -- not vice
> versa.

Dumb, dummer, and dummest.

She really does not have a clue. The most respected physiology
textbook in the world agrees with what I have said. Try reading
Guyton's textbook of medical physiology.

Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I
would rather have one good, caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that
10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons, potions, and
lotions trying to poison me back into health.

DrC PhD.

In article <[email hidden]>,

drceephd said:

[email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

My apologies to all the nurses out there for what I am about to write.
This is very important, and since I am married to a nurse, ever more
important.

I am reading a non filtered newsgroup where I have to put up with the
insults of the quackwatch group.

Aww, poor you. How tragic that you must 'put up' with this. Your
wounds are self-inflicted, Chuck -- if you didn't post such reams of
folderol, you wouldn't take flak for it.

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Michele must be a blonde ( my apologies to other blondes who have
chosen to use thier brains.)

Please change thier to their. You are still a mis-informed cranky
[censored].

Glass houses, Chuck.

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And you consistently show yourself to be quite clueless about most
subjects -- although your spelling of "their" in a sentence where you
claim someone else isn't using their brain is an amusing indication of
your stupidity.

Typo, not stupidity. It was stupid of you to assume what I typed was
not a typo. Typical of dumb, cranky, [censored] who have no clue as to
what is going on.

And then you corrected her misspelling of "their" even though she had
it right in a later paragraph, so there you are, assuming that what
she typed was not a typo. Hypocrite.

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Your theory of diseases is based on ideas that can't hold up under
examination. The invention of microscopes alone dug a hole & buried
most of your "there are no germs" nonsense.

Actually, the proper use of the microscope is what buried your germ
theory of disease. Be'champ and Bernard proved this way, way , way
back in 1870. Even Pasteur admitted it with his deathbed confession
that "Bernard was right. The bacteria are nothing, the soil is
everything."

I have seen no evidence that the supposed "quotation" from Pasteur is
genuine.

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I will stay with dumb and dumber. This cranky, dumb blonde has no
knowledge of the lymphatic system or how it works.

Glass houses again.

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Once again, let me apologize to all the great nurses out there. I
would rather have one good, caring, loving, nurse at my bedside that
10 MD's with their little black bags full of poisons, potions, and
lotions trying to poison me back into health.

Yes, Chuck, but just because you're nuts doesn't mean we should all
join you.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)