Kaiser doctor dies while mountain biking

It doesn't matter who or what you are, what you claim or don't claim, whether
you're totally for real or a bad joke that's gone on for too long. The fact
that you have posted messages where you take delight in another person's
pain, suffering, and death, and then use it in a perverse manner in a
pathetic attempt to promote your own personal agenda is despicable and the
product of a sick mind. You are lower than tubeworm [censored] and deserve every
insult and flame you get.

ikonicus

was: Kaiser Doctor Dies While Mountain Biking

Subject's name blanked out of respect for family

June 29, 2005

Hiker's death ruled a heart attack
MOUNT MCLOUGHLIN -The mountain climber whose body was found last weekend on
Mount McLoughlin died of a heart attack, and not head trauma as originally
believed, officials said Tuesday.
An autopsy performed Monday determined J. V. *******, 54, of Beaverton,
sustained non-fatal head injuries in a fall, Klamath County sheriff's
officials said in a news release.

Evidence appeared to show that ******* died of injuries suffered when he
struck a boulder after he fell and slid across an ice and snow field,
officials said.

Jackson and Klamath county search teams began looking on June 16 after a
friend reported ******* had not returned as expected from a climbing
expedition on Mount McLoughlin.

Klamath County Sheriff Tim Evinger last week suspended the search, saying
all reasonable efforts to find *******'s body had been exhausted.

******* was discovered late Friday on the mountain's south slope by M****
D***, a friend who decided to continue hunting for the Beaverton man after
the official search had ended, police said.

The autopsy was done at the request of *******'s family and the Jackson
County district attorney, officials said.

Well known and much abhored Vike Mandevan died Tuesday while typing at a
rapid pace on his home computer. He suffered a major stroke which caused
him to be able to type with only one finger, leading to great frustration
and eventual heart failure.

The cause of his death has absolutely nothing to do with typing, or usenet,
or ..., well, you get the picture. Emergency medical staff were unable to
get to Vike in time to revive him, as they were not permitted to operate
wheeled vehicles anywhere near him.

Vike is remembered by all the other nasty little folks who live under the
bridges of Usenet. He was indeed a "legend in his own mind".

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Kaiser doctor dies while mountain biking
Vallejo Times-Herald - Vallejo,CA,USA

* Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>:

You really are a pathetic excuse for a human aren't you mikey. You have
to be the only one I know that gets so excited by the death of others.
Oh well not to worry, karma demands that you'll get payback eventually.

Jason

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:27:57 GMT, MAL <[email hidden]> wrote:

..
..It doesn't matter who or what you are, what you claim or don't claim, whether
..you're totally for real or a bad joke that's gone on for too long. The fact
..that you have posted messages where you take delight in another person's
..pain, suffering, and death,

Where do you see that? The fact is, you FABRICATED it. No one is "taking
delight" in the death or injury of mountain bikers. It's just evolution at work.

and then use it in a perverse manner in a
..pathetic attempt to promote your own personal agenda is despicable and the
..product of a sick mind. You are lower than tubeworm [censored] and deserve every
..insult and flame you get.
..
..ikonicus

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:23:02 -0300, Jason <[email hidden]> wrote:

..* Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>:
..
..You really are a pathetic excuse for a human aren't you mikey. You have
..to be the only one I know that gets so excited by the death of others.
..Oh well not to worry, karma demands that you'll get payback eventually.

Your THREAT is duly noted. Who's excited? It's just evolution at work.

..Jason

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Mike Vandeman said:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:30:22 GMT, "Bill Sornson"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

.Mike Vandeman wrote:
.> Kaiser doctor dies while mountain biking
.> Vallejo Times-Herald - Vallejo,CA,USA
.> Howard *****
.
.Mikey, Mikey, Mikey...
.
.You know how the State Department issues travel advisories to alert
US .citizens about potential dangers in various parts of the world?
.
.Well if I were a member of this man's family and /you/ traveled
anywhere .near /me/, then you'd be advised to watch your pockmarked,
oily back.

Your THREAT is duly noted.

Your lack of understanding of the English language is duly noted (yet
again).

BS

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:23:02 -0300, Jason <[email hidden]> wrote:

.* Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>:
.
.You really are a pathetic excuse for a human aren't you mikey. You have
.to be the only one I know that gets so excited by the death of others.
.Oh well not to worry, karma demands that you'll get payback eventually.

Your THREAT is duly noted. Who's excited? It's just evolution at work.

.Jason

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Mike. you're proof that evolution doesn't work in all situations

"di" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:23:02 -0300, Jason <[email hidden]> wrote:

.* Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>:
.
.You really are a pathetic excuse for a human aren't you mikey. You have
.to be the only one I know that gets so excited by the death of others.
.Oh well not to worry, karma demands that you'll get payback eventually.

Your THREAT is duly noted. Who's excited? It's just evolution at work.

Quoted message said:

Mike. you're proof that evolution doesn't work in all situations

Further proof is at his website:

http://www.geocities.com/crazeemikey/index.html

Note: I have credit for 5 trail rides thanks to Mikey. I always enjoy rides
more when I know they are for Mikey.

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Quoted message said:

It doesn't matter who or what you are, what you claim or don't claim,
whether
you're totally for real or a bad joke that's gone on for too long. The
fact
that you have posted messages where you take delight in another person's
pain, suffering, and death, and then use it in a perverse manner in a
pathetic attempt to promote your own personal agenda is despicable and the
product of a sick mind. You are lower than tubeworm [censored] and deserve every
insult and flame you get.

ikonicus

Amen brother...damn good flame...

Quoted message said:

Your efforts to change the subject away from the harm done by mountain
biking is
duly noted. Mountain bikers will do ANYTHING to avoid looking at the truth
about
their selfish, destructive, sick sport.

.GG

Dude...the subject is the man died.... have some respect. Mountain biking or
not he died and you are flaunting it on usenet...nothing you say can right
the wrong you have just caused, but you'll answer to that later.

Mike Vandeman said:

.I've asked him on previous occasions whether or not he has anyone close to
.him in the real world, and what his parents and other relatives think of his
.activities. He never answers those questions, presumably because he has no
.close relationships and because everyone close to him tells him that he has
.a problem. It's a sad and pathetic life he leads.

Your efforts to change the subject away from the harm done by mountain biking is
duly noted. Mountain bikers will do ANYTHING to avoid looking at the truth about
their selfish, destructive, sick sport.

Nice, Mike, real nice. Lets hope that when one someone you love dies
that someone posts it over usenet as an example of what a sick,
destructive, selfish person they were.

Oh, and the subjective words sick and selfish would be substantiated by
the facts, I suppose. Let the facts speak for themselves, I've heard
you say that plenty of times before.

Just another example of a self-proclaimed "scientist" that doesn't
actually have any relevant qualifications, who refuses to let his peers
review his work, and actually avoids answering questions about his
methodology, who spends the majority of his day trolling in a group
dedicated to his opponents. Opponents that he claims threaten him
continuously. World-class guy aren't you, Mike?
--
Westie

Mike Vandeman said:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:27:57 GMT, MAL <[email hidden]> wrote:

.
.It doesn't matter who or what you are, what you claim or don't claim, whether
.you're totally for real or a bad joke that's gone on for too long. The fact
.that you have posted messages where you take delight in another person's
.pain, suffering, and death,

Where do you see that? The fact is, you FABRICATED it. No one is "taking
delight" in the death or injury of mountain bikers. It's just evolution at work.

I suppose that we can only hope that you die alone and childless. That
would certainly be evolution at it's best.
--
Westie

Mike Vandeman said:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:27:57 GMT, MAL <[email hidden]> wrote:

.
.It doesn't matter who or what you are, what you claim or don't claim, whether
.you're totally for real or a bad joke that's gone on for too long. The fact
.that you have posted messages where you take delight in another person's
.pain, suffering, and death,

Where do you see that? The fact is, you FABRICATED it. No one is "taking
delight" in the death or injury of mountain bikers. It's just evolution at work.

How about you go and say this stuff to the guys family? Why not?
You've said before that reading is just as good as doing it in person?
Why not work it the other way and actually say this stuff to the guy's
family members rather than hiding behind a faceless message on the
internet? I think you'd be demonstrating evolution in action when they
throttle the living daylights out of you.

I'd love to see you to try and explain it to them that you're not taking
delight in posting this stuff, that you're just demonstrating evolution
in action.
--
Westie

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:59:47 -0500, "MTBlood" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

..
..>
..> Your efforts to change the subject away from the harm done by mountain
..> biking is
..> duly noted. Mountain bikers will do ANYTHING to avoid looking at the truth
..> about
..> their selfish, destructive, sick sport.
..>
..> .GG
..
..Dude...the subject is the man died.... have some respect. Mountain biking or
..not he died and you are flaunting it on usenet.

Then why don't you also complain to the newspaper for "flaunting" it in their
pages?

...nothing you say can right
..the wrong you have just caused, but you'll answer to that later.
..

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years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:49:01 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:

..Mike Vandeman wrote:
..
..> .I've asked him on previous occasions whether or not he has anyone close to
..> .him in the real world, and what his parents and other relatives think of his
..> .activities. He never answers those questions, presumably because he has no
..> .close relationships and because everyone close to him tells him that he has
..> .a problem. It's a sad and pathetic life he leads.
..>
..> Your efforts to change the subject away from the harm done by mountain biking is
..> duly noted. Mountain bikers will do ANYTHING to avoid looking at the truth about
..> their selfish, destructive, sick sport.
..
..Nice, Mike, real nice. Lets hope that when one someone you love dies
..that someone posts it over usenet as an example of what a sick,
..destructive, selfish person they were.
..
..Oh, and the subjective words sick and selfish would be substantiated by
..the facts, I suppose. Let the facts speak for themselves, I've heard
..you say that plenty of times before.
..
..Just another example of a self-proclaimed "scientist" that doesn't
..actually have any relevant qualifications, who refuses to let his peers
..review his work, and actually avoids answering questions about his
..methodology, who spends the majority of his day trolling in a group
..dedicated to his opponents. Opponents that he claims threaten him
..continuously. World-class guy aren't you, Mike?

Did you say something?
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:59:31 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:

..Mike Vandeman wrote:
..> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:27:57 GMT, MAL <[email hidden]> wrote:
..>
..> .
..> .It doesn't matter who or what you are, what you claim or don't claim, whether
..> .you're totally for real or a bad joke that's gone on for too long. The fact
..> .that you have posted messages where you take delight in another person's
..> .pain, suffering, and death,
..>
..> Where do you see that? The fact is, you FABRICATED it. No one is "taking
..> delight" in the death or injury of mountain bikers. It's just evolution at work.
..
..How about you go and say this stuff to the guys family? Why not?
..You've said before that reading is just as good as doing it in person?
..Why not work it the other way and actually say this stuff to the guy's
..family members rather than hiding behind a faceless message on the
..internet? I think you'd be demonstrating evolution in action when they
..throttle the living daylights out of you.

Your threat is duly noted.

..I'd love to see you to try and explain it to them that you're not taking
..delight in posting this stuff, that you're just demonstrating evolution
..in action.

===
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humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Quoted message said:

.
.Dude...the subject is the man died.... have some respect. Mountain biking
or
.not he died and you are flaunting it on usenet.

Then why don't you also complain to the newspaper for "flaunting" it in
their
pages?

For one the newspaper is reporting news...that's their job, informing the
community of happenings around them. You on the other hand are "flaunting"
this poor mans death by posting it and gaining satisfaction that it supports
your cause. I normally don't bring myself down to your level by submitting
to your nonsense but this is simply wrong, and like I said before, it's not
me you need to be concerned of....you'll explain these actions later.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
I think you'd be demonstrating evolution in action when they

Quoted message said:

.throttle the living daylights out of you.

Your threat is duly noted.

Niiiiiice come back. You winner.
--
Westie