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  1. I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    I'm Polish, a translator and my interest in low-carbing started when I
    was asked to translate a book on LC diet. And, somehow, as I was working
    on it, the ideas which I used to dismiss very easily, not knowing much
    on the subject at all, began to make perfect sense.

    Before I gave it a go, I experimented on a slightly overweight
    colleague, who was happy to embrace the idea of "a new diet" and, after
    previous rather unsuccessful attempts at dieting, suddenly started to
    lose weight beautifully. That made me go: "Hm? This IS working, after all".

    I'm overweight but not obese (79 kilos as of today, at 168 cm height). I
    first went on Atkins last year and lost 11 kilos, from 85 to 74, then
    went slack and gained 7 kilos back. Typical, I believe - and necessary
    to make one realise that this WOL works ONLY as long as you really stick
    to it. Heh. "Elementary, dear Watson".

    Now I'm back to it - low carbing for the past month. Not too strictly (I
    wasn't counting my carbs or calories, just generally avoiding all
    sugars, flour and starches, occasionally allowing myself to have a glass
    of wine). I've lost only 2 kilos so far but already feel the "side
    effects" - have more energy, don't need so much sleep.

    I haven't decided yet whether to take a "strict" approach, religiously
    counting carbs, or just do what I'm doing now anyway - not eating any
    bread, pasta, rice, sweets. I'll see what will work best. There is no
    need to hurry, is there, when you decide that high carb foods are not
    for you anyway.

    That's all from me by way of introduction. I plan to stick around - this
    is a great group. AFAIK on Polish usenet there aren't any groups devoted
    exclusively to low-carbing. Not yet. So, on the "general dieting" groups
    there's much bickering between followers of LC diets and their opponents
    - too much of it to read comfortably, too little sensible advice. But
    LC diets are gaining more interest every day - Atkins, South Beach. So
    that may change with time.

    🙂
    Kredka

  2. It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

    "karma.coma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    I'm Polish, a translator and my interest in low-carbing started when I
    was asked to translate a book on LC diet. And, somehow, as I was working
    on it, the ideas which I used to dismiss very easily, not knowing much
    on the subject at all, began to make perfect sense.

    Before I gave it a go, I experimented on a slightly overweight
    colleague, who was happy to embrace the idea of "a new diet" and, after
    previous rather unsuccessful attempts at dieting, suddenly started to
    lose weight beautifully. That made me go: "Hm? This IS working, after


    all".

    Quoted message said:


    I'm overweight but not obese (79 kilos as of today, at 168 cm height). I
    first went on Atkins last year and lost 11 kilos, from 85 to 74, then
    went slack and gained 7 kilos back. Typical, I believe - and necessary
    to make one realise that this WOL works ONLY as long as you really stick
    to it. Heh. "Elementary, dear Watson".

    Now I'm back to it - low carbing for the past month. Not too strictly (I
    wasn't counting my carbs or calories, just generally avoiding all
    sugars, flour and starches, occasionally allowing myself to have a glass
    of wine). I've lost only 2 kilos so far but already feel the "side
    effects" - have more energy, don't need so much sleep.

    I haven't decided yet whether to take a "strict" approach, religiously
    counting carbs, or just do what I'm doing now anyway - not eating any
    bread, pasta, rice, sweets. I'll see what will work best. There is no
    need to hurry, is there, when you decide that high carb foods are not
    for you anyway.

    That's all from me by way of introduction. I plan to stick around - this
    is a great group. AFAIK on Polish usenet there aren't any groups devoted
    exclusively to low-carbing. Not yet. So, on the "general dieting" groups
    there's much bickering between followers of LC diets and their opponents
    - too much of it to read comfortably, too little sensible advice. But
    LC diets are gaining more interest every day - Atkins, South Beach. So
    that may change with time.

    🙂
    Kredka

  3. It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

    "karma.coma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    I'm Polish, a translator and my interest in low-carbing started when I
    was asked to translate a book on LC diet. And, somehow, as I was working
    on it, the ideas which I used to dismiss very easily, not knowing much
    on the subject at all, began to make perfect sense.

    Before I gave it a go, I experimented on a slightly overweight
    colleague, who was happy to embrace the idea of "a new diet" and, after
    previous rather unsuccessful attempts at dieting, suddenly started to
    lose weight beautifully. That made me go: "Hm? This IS working, after


    all".

    Quoted message said:


    I'm overweight but not obese (79 kilos as of today, at 168 cm height). I
    first went on Atkins last year and lost 11 kilos, from 85 to 74, then
    went slack and gained 7 kilos back. Typical, I believe - and necessary
    to make one realise that this WOL works ONLY as long as you really stick
    to it. Heh. "Elementary, dear Watson".

    Now I'm back to it - low carbing for the past month. Not too strictly (I
    wasn't counting my carbs or calories, just generally avoiding all
    sugars, flour and starches, occasionally allowing myself to have a glass
    of wine). I've lost only 2 kilos so far but already feel the "side
    effects" - have more energy, don't need so much sleep.

    I haven't decided yet whether to take a "strict" approach, religiously
    counting carbs, or just do what I'm doing now anyway - not eating any
    bread, pasta, rice, sweets. I'll see what will work best. There is no
    need to hurry, is there, when you decide that high carb foods are not
    for you anyway.

    That's all from me by way of introduction. I plan to stick around - this
    is a great group. AFAIK on Polish usenet there aren't any groups devoted
    exclusively to low-carbing. Not yet. So, on the "general dieting" groups
    there's much bickering between followers of LC diets and their opponents
    - too much of it to read comfortably, too little sensible advice. But
    LC diets are gaining more interest every day - Atkins, South Beach. So
    that may change with time.

    🙂
    Kredka

  4. It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

    "karma.coma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    I'm Polish, a translator and my interest in low-carbing started when I
    was asked to translate a book on LC diet. And, somehow, as I was working
    on it, the ideas which I used to dismiss very easily, not knowing much
    on the subject at all, began to make perfect sense.

    Before I gave it a go, I experimented on a slightly overweight
    colleague, who was happy to embrace the idea of "a new diet" and, after
    previous rather unsuccessful attempts at dieting, suddenly started to
    lose weight beautifully. That made me go: "Hm? This IS working, after


    all".

    Quoted message said:


    I'm overweight but not obese (79 kilos as of today, at 168 cm height). I
    first went on Atkins last year and lost 11 kilos, from 85 to 74, then
    went slack and gained 7 kilos back. Typical, I believe - and necessary
    to make one realise that this WOL works ONLY as long as you really stick
    to it. Heh. "Elementary, dear Watson".

    Now I'm back to it - low carbing for the past month. Not too strictly (I
    wasn't counting my carbs or calories, just generally avoiding all
    sugars, flour and starches, occasionally allowing myself to have a glass
    of wine). I've lost only 2 kilos so far but already feel the "side
    effects" - have more energy, don't need so much sleep.

    I haven't decided yet whether to take a "strict" approach, religiously
    counting carbs, or just do what I'm doing now anyway - not eating any
    bread, pasta, rice, sweets. I'll see what will work best. There is no
    need to hurry, is there, when you decide that high carb foods are not
    for you anyway.

    That's all from me by way of introduction. I plan to stick around - this
    is a great group. AFAIK on Polish usenet there aren't any groups devoted
    exclusively to low-carbing. Not yet. So, on the "general dieting" groups
    there's much bickering between followers of LC diets and their opponents
    - too much of it to read comfortably, too little sensible advice. But
    LC diets are gaining more interest every day - Atkins, South Beach. So
    that may change with time.

    🙂
    Kredka

  5. It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

    "karma.coma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    I'm Polish, a translator and my interest in low-carbing started when I
    was asked to translate a book on LC diet. And, somehow, as I was working
    on it, the ideas which I used to dismiss very easily, not knowing much
    on the subject at all, began to make perfect sense.

    Before I gave it a go, I experimented on a slightly overweight
    colleague, who was happy to embrace the idea of "a new diet" and, after
    previous rather unsuccessful attempts at dieting, suddenly started to
    lose weight beautifully. That made me go: "Hm? This IS working, after


    all".

    Quoted message said:


    I'm overweight but not obese (79 kilos as of today, at 168 cm height). I
    first went on Atkins last year and lost 11 kilos, from 85 to 74, then
    went slack and gained 7 kilos back. Typical, I believe - and necessary
    to make one realise that this WOL works ONLY as long as you really stick
    to it. Heh. "Elementary, dear Watson".

    Now I'm back to it - low carbing for the past month. Not too strictly (I
    wasn't counting my carbs or calories, just generally avoiding all
    sugars, flour and starches, occasionally allowing myself to have a glass
    of wine). I've lost only 2 kilos so far but already feel the "side
    effects" - have more energy, don't need so much sleep.

    I haven't decided yet whether to take a "strict" approach, religiously
    counting carbs, or just do what I'm doing now anyway - not eating any
    bread, pasta, rice, sweets. I'll see what will work best. There is no
    need to hurry, is there, when you decide that high carb foods are not
    for you anyway.

    That's all from me by way of introduction. I plan to stick around - this
    is a great group. AFAIK on Polish usenet there aren't any groups devoted
    exclusively to low-carbing. Not yet. So, on the "general dieting" groups
    there's much bickering between followers of LC diets and their opponents
    - too much of it to read comfortably, too little sensible advice. But
    LC diets are gaining more interest every day - Atkins, South Beach. So
    that may change with time.

    🙂
    Kredka

  6. It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

    "karma.coma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    I'm Polish, a translator and my interest in low-carbing started when I
    was asked to translate a book on LC diet. And, somehow, as I was working
    on it, the ideas which I used to dismiss very easily, not knowing much
    on the subject at all, began to make perfect sense.

    Before I gave it a go, I experimented on a slightly overweight
    colleague, who was happy to embrace the idea of "a new diet" and, after
    previous rather unsuccessful attempts at dieting, suddenly started to
    lose weight beautifully. That made me go: "Hm? This IS working, after


    all".

    Quoted message said:


    I'm overweight but not obese (79 kilos as of today, at 168 cm height). I
    first went on Atkins last year and lost 11 kilos, from 85 to 74, then
    went slack and gained 7 kilos back. Typical, I believe - and necessary
    to make one realise that this WOL works ONLY as long as you really stick
    to it. Heh. "Elementary, dear Watson".

    Now I'm back to it - low carbing for the past month. Not too strictly (I
    wasn't counting my carbs or calories, just generally avoiding all
    sugars, flour and starches, occasionally allowing myself to have a glass
    of wine). I've lost only 2 kilos so far but already feel the "side
    effects" - have more energy, don't need so much sleep.

    I haven't decided yet whether to take a "strict" approach, religiously
    counting carbs, or just do what I'm doing now anyway - not eating any
    bread, pasta, rice, sweets. I'll see what will work best. There is no
    need to hurry, is there, when you decide that high carb foods are not
    for you anyway.

    That's all from me by way of introduction. I plan to stick around - this
    is a great group. AFAIK on Polish usenet there aren't any groups devoted
    exclusively to low-carbing. Not yet. So, on the "general dieting" groups
    there's much bickering between followers of LC diets and their opponents
    - too much of it to read comfortably, too little sensible advice. But
    LC diets are gaining more interest every day - Atkins, South Beach. So
    that may change with time.

    🙂
    Kredka

  7. That's correct, "The Optimal Diet" is quite popular here. I wouldn't
    know if it really has so many followers, as it'd make 1 in every 36
    Poles, or so, which seems an exaggeration, but it's a whole movement,
    with centers around the country where one can go to try out this
    approach, many clubs, 2 monthly magazines and quite a lot of Internet
    activity.

    It's a low-carb, high-fat diet, and it is said to recommend less protein
    than Atkins diet, basically stating that the ratio of protein:fat:carbs
    (in grams) should be as 1.0:2.5-3.0:0.8 in the initial period, and later
    on you should lower the amount of protein. I don't want to try and get
    into details, not being an expert on this diet. Never appealed to me,
    actually. I was wondering myself why I never got interested in it (it
    would make sense: if we have our own, locally developed LC diet, why
    look up to sth that was invented on the other side of the globe), but
    then I realised it was simply not my age-group, not my social circle
    kind of thing. Which is not to say that I try to deny its merits.

    Kredka

    Cubit said:

    It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

  8. That's correct, "The Optimal Diet" is quite popular here. I wouldn't
    know if it really has so many followers, as it'd make 1 in every 36
    Poles, or so, which seems an exaggeration, but it's a whole movement,
    with centers around the country where one can go to try out this
    approach, many clubs, 2 monthly magazines and quite a lot of Internet
    activity.

    It's a low-carb, high-fat diet, and it is said to recommend less protein
    than Atkins diet, basically stating that the ratio of protein:fat:carbs
    (in grams) should be as 1.0:2.5-3.0:0.8 in the initial period, and later
    on you should lower the amount of protein. I don't want to try and get
    into details, not being an expert on this diet. Never appealed to me,
    actually. I was wondering myself why I never got interested in it (it
    would make sense: if we have our own, locally developed LC diet, why
    look up to sth that was invented on the other side of the globe), but
    then I realised it was simply not my age-group, not my social circle
    kind of thing. Which is not to say that I try to deny its merits.

    Kredka

    Cubit said:

    It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

  9. That's correct, "The Optimal Diet" is quite popular here. I wouldn't
    know if it really has so many followers, as it'd make 1 in every 36
    Poles, or so, which seems an exaggeration, but it's a whole movement,
    with centers around the country where one can go to try out this
    approach, many clubs, 2 monthly magazines and quite a lot of Internet
    activity.

    It's a low-carb, high-fat diet, and it is said to recommend less protein
    than Atkins diet, basically stating that the ratio of protein:fat:carbs
    (in grams) should be as 1.0:2.5-3.0:0.8 in the initial period, and later
    on you should lower the amount of protein. I don't want to try and get
    into details, not being an expert on this diet. Never appealed to me,
    actually. I was wondering myself why I never got interested in it (it
    would make sense: if we have our own, locally developed LC diet, why
    look up to sth that was invented on the other side of the globe), but
    then I realised it was simply not my age-group, not my social circle
    kind of thing. Which is not to say that I try to deny its merits.

    Kredka

    Cubit said:

    It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

  10. That's correct, "The Optimal Diet" is quite popular here. I wouldn't
    know if it really has so many followers, as it'd make 1 in every 36
    Poles, or so, which seems an exaggeration, but it's a whole movement,
    with centers around the country where one can go to try out this
    approach, many clubs, 2 monthly magazines and quite a lot of Internet
    activity.

    It's a low-carb, high-fat diet, and it is said to recommend less protein
    than Atkins diet, basically stating that the ratio of protein:fat:carbs
    (in grams) should be as 1.0:2.5-3.0:0.8 in the initial period, and later
    on you should lower the amount of protein. I don't want to try and get
    into details, not being an expert on this diet. Never appealed to me,
    actually. I was wondering myself why I never got interested in it (it
    would make sense: if we have our own, locally developed LC diet, why
    look up to sth that was invented on the other side of the globe), but
    then I realised it was simply not my age-group, not my social circle
    kind of thing. Which is not to say that I try to deny its merits.

    Kredka

    Cubit said:

    It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

  11. That's correct, "The Optimal Diet" is quite popular here. I wouldn't
    know if it really has so many followers, as it'd make 1 in every 36
    Poles, or so, which seems an exaggeration, but it's a whole movement,
    with centers around the country where one can go to try out this
    approach, many clubs, 2 monthly magazines and quite a lot of Internet
    activity.

    It's a low-carb, high-fat diet, and it is said to recommend less protein
    than Atkins diet, basically stating that the ratio of protein:fat:carbs
    (in grams) should be as 1.0:2.5-3.0:0.8 in the initial period, and later
    on you should lower the amount of protein. I don't want to try and get
    into details, not being an expert on this diet. Never appealed to me,
    actually. I was wondering myself why I never got interested in it (it
    would make sense: if we have our own, locally developed LC diet, why
    look up to sth that was invented on the other side of the globe), but
    then I realised it was simply not my age-group, not my social circle
    kind of thing. Which is not to say that I try to deny its merits.

    Kredka

    Cubit said:

    It was my understanding that, in Poland, "The Optimal Diet" is very big. I
    had read that over a million Poles are practicing it. Have you come across
    this?

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    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    Hi Kredka, welcome to group visibility! Your English is excellent
    (which is a very good thing considering your profession :-)

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    Hi Kredka, welcome to group visibility! Your English is excellent
    (which is a very good thing considering your profession :-)

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    Hi Kredka, welcome to group visibility! Your English is excellent
    (which is a very good thing considering your profession :-)

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    Hi Kredka, welcome to group visibility! Your English is excellent
    (which is a very good thing considering your profession :-)

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    Hi Kredka, welcome to group visibility! Your English is excellent
    (which is a very good thing considering your profession :-)

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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    Quoted message said:

    I just wanted to say hello to everybody here. I've been reading this
    group for more than a year now and it's been for me a source of much
    valuable information, support and - quite often - fun.

    Hi Kredka, welcome to group visibility! Your English is excellent
    (which is a very good thing considering your profession :-)

    --
    Saffire
    205/134/125
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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  18. Welcome to the group! Don't forget--the emphasis isn't on just lowering
    carbs; it's on eating low glycemic carbs in the right amounts. It's adding
    fiber to your diet, too.

    Pat in TX

  19. Welcome to the group! Don't forget--the emphasis isn't on just lowering
    carbs; it's on eating low glycemic carbs in the right amounts. It's adding
    fiber to your diet, too.

    Pat in TX

  20. Welcome to the group! Don't forget--the emphasis isn't on just lowering
    carbs; it's on eating low glycemic carbs in the right amounts. It's adding
    fiber to your diet, too.

    Pat in TX

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