It's very interesting doing the compare-and-contrast thing with different language editions of Eurosport. A few days ago I mentioned that LANCE's probable retirement in 2004 made the French and Italian editions, but not the English one (it has since been added). In any event, today's Italian edition has this story:
which, roughly translated, says that VDB was caught DUI last weekend with a blood alcohol level about three times the legal limit. He was driving home after a party in Brussels at 3am without headlights.
BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he wanted to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's farewell gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist Lefevere says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI more harshly
BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he wanted to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's farewell gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist Lefevere says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI more harshly
procycling.comnews main.aspOpen ↗ I found the last line of their article humorous. 'No word yet on whether Vandenbroucke’s dog was in any way involved in the incident.' psb
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BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
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to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
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gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
Lefevere
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says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI more harshly
A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on Lefevere.
Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
How can anyone support this man anymore?
I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the [censored] hits the fan and one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
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BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
wanted
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to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
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gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
Lefevere
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says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI more harshly
A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on Lefevere.
Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
How can anyone support this man anymore?
I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the [censored] hits the fan and one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
Sparhawk
How much would you support him if you or a loved one were riding your bike on the same road as he while he was driving like that?
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BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
wanted
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to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
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gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
Lefevere
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says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI more harshly
A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on Lefevere.
Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
How can anyone support this man anymore?
I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the [censored] hits the fan and one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
Supporting someone after the first [censored] is OK. After the second [censored] is OK.
After the 10th [censored] and leaving the wife on the side of the road, it's no longer OK. VdB keeps screwing up because he never has to pay any real consequences.
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"Bart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... > BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he wanted > to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her. > > FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
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> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist Lefevere > says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned > the DUI more harshly
A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on Lefevere.
Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
How can anyone support this man anymore?
I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the [censored] hits the fan and one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
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"Bart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... > BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he wanted > to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her. > > FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
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> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist Lefevere > says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the > DUI more harshly
A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on Lefevere.
Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
How can anyone support this man anymore?
I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the [censored] hits the fan and one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
Sparhawk
How much would you support him if you or a loved one were riding your bike on the same road as he while he was driving like that?
I'm not saying that what he did is right but he doesn't deserve the death penality either.
Riders should stay single. The list of misdemeanours where wives were involved is getting longer:
Mrs Rumsas + mother-in-law (double points) VDB and his wife (and his dog) That chick with the pom-poms who took out Boogerd on the climb Not forgetting Coppi's mistress.
Stay single and keep your crank polished, is the best advice.
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> >"Bart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >"]news:[email hidden]... >> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
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>> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her. >> >> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
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>> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
Lefevere
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>> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned >> the DUI more harshly > > > > >A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on >Lefevere. > >Leaving the wife isn't defensible either. > > > >How can anyone support this man anymore?
I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the [censored] hits the fan and one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
Sparhawk
How much would you support him if you or a loved one were riding your bike on the same road as he while he was driving like that?
I'm not saying that what he did is right but he doesn't deserve the death penality either.
He didn't kill or injure anyone did he?
Who cares whether he killed anyone or not. Did his driving violate the center line rule?