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  1. Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason at all here:

    simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Simon

  2. "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason at all here:

    simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Simon

    Where is it?

  3. "Geoff Pearson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason at all here:

    simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Simon

    Where is it?

    Here it is. Cycle track is not shown - truncated road is to the rhs of arrow head. Reckitt + Colman
    bought the road and then closed it and the pub that was down there as well.

    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

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    Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.net

  4. "Geoff Pearson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason at all here:

    simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Simon

    Where is it?

    I guess it's somewhere along here .. moors.uk.netindex.php

    That's got to be one seriously hilly cycle route .. look at the travel on the suspension .. 😉

  5. "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote: ( Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason
    at all here: ) ( simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Not that I want you to think that I am a pedant or anything, but I think they're only "advised" to
    do so (for no obvious reason).

  6. Simon Mason tried to scribble ...

    Quoted message said:

    Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason at all here:

    simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Simon

    I guess the fact that the route appears to cross a works entrance/exit may be something to do with
    it. It _is_ only an advisory sign after all .. 😉

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    Digweed

  7. Geraint Jones said:

    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote: ( Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason
    at all here: ) ( simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Not that I want you to think that I am a pedant or anything, but I think they're only "advised" to
    do so (for no obvious reason).

    I always assume (with the lack of punctuation) that such signs are a statement of fact.

    Ducks Quack.
    --
    Selah

  8. I treat "cyclists dismount" signs like stop lines. You stop, you get off the bike, make sure
    nothings coming, then you get back on and ride off again..

  9. "Simon Geller" <s.geller@no_spam.shef.ac.uk> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I treat "cyclists dismount" signs like stop lines. You stop, you get off the bike, make sure
    nothings coming, then you get back on and ride off again..

    So if you were driving a car you would stop and *get out* of your car at a stop sign??

  10. Simon Geller tried to scribble ...

    Quoted message said:

    I treat "cyclists dismount" signs like stop lines. You stop, you get off the bike, make sure
    nothings coming, then you get back on and ride off again..

    Your choice, and there's nothing wrong with that .. 😉

    --
    Digweed

  11. Simon Geller tried to scribble ...

    Quoted message said:

    I treat "cyclists dismount" signs like stop lines. You stop, you get off the bike, make sure
    nothings coming, then you get back on and ride off again..

    Your choice, and there's nothing wrong with that .. 😉

    --
    Digweed

  12. Stephen Gower said:
    Geraint Jones said:

    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote: ( Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason
    at all here: ) ( simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Not that I want you to think that I am a pedant or anything, but I think they're only "advised" to
    do so (for no obvious reason).

    I always assume (with the lack of punctuation) that such signs are a statement of fact.

    Ducks Quack.

    Instructions are circular signs with red borders - that sign is an "Information" sign, therefore not
    obligatory.

    I think.... 😉

    --
    Succorso

  13. Stephen Gower said:
    Geraint Jones said:

    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote: ( Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason
    at all here: ) ( simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm

    Not that I want you to think that I am a pedant or anything, but I think they're only "advised" to
    do so (for no obvious reason).

    I always assume (with the lack of punctuation) that such signs are a statement of fact.

    Ducks Quack.

    Instructions are circular signs with red borders - that sign is an "Information" sign, therefore not
    obligatory.

    I think.... 😉

    --
    Succorso

  14. Stephen Gower <[email hidden]> wrote: ( Geraint Jones
    <[email hidden]> wrote: ) >"Simon Mason"
    <[email hidden]> wrote: ( >( Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason at all here:
    ) > ) ( >( simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm ) > ( >Not that I want you to think that I am
    a pedant or anything, but ) >I think they're only "advised" to do so (for no obvious reason). ( ) I
    always assume (with the lack of punctuation) that such signs are
    ( astatement of fact.

    Were it so it would be most misleading for surely it is not cyclists per se, but rather people who
    happen to be on bicycles that dismount.

    It may (beyond the fringe) be a loyal toast: Gentlemen lift the seat.

  15. Adrian Boliston said:

    "Simon Geller" <s.geller@no_spam.shef.ac.uk> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I treat "cyclists dismount" signs like stop lines. You stop, you get off the bike, make sure
    nothings coming, then you get back on and ride off again..

    So if you were driving a car you would stop and *get out* of your car at a stop sign??

    No. You do what the sign says, stop. Am I mistaken, but aren't stop signs octagonal. What's the
    meaning of an octagonal sign?
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  16. "Tim Woodall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:14:56 +0100,

    Quoted message said:


    No. You do what the sign says, stop. Am I mistaken, but aren't stop signs octagonal. What's the
    meaning of an octagonal sign?

    It's the exception for instruction signs. The rest being blue - keep left, minimum speed etc.
    (Alternatively it is a warning sign - see below about give way)

    Give way is another oddity being upside down. Other warning signs are the other way up. (You could
    argue that the give way sign is an


    instruction

    Quoted message said:

    but there are also road markings to actually tell you where to stop)

    The round red border signs are the "don't do this" signs. Do not exceed the speed limit, do not
    turn right etc.

    The other oddity I can think of is the NSL sign (white with black


    diagonal)

    Quoted message said:

    which AIUI is a throwback from the non-standard road signs (before I was born - I don't know what
    else there might have been). Maybe Stop comes


    into

    Quoted message said:

    this category as well?

    Cyclists dismount sign is a rectangular blue sign. AFAICT this is a


    motorway

    Quoted message said:

    sign - no stopping, no u-turns etc so you had better start practicing mounting and dismounting at
    a run :-)

    In days of old, when knights were bold we British had a set of signs all our own -- some other
    European countries were also 'different'. Then, in a fit of harmonisation -- probably long before
    the Common Market reached these shores, we all adopted a fairly similar set of signs.

    In olden days we were commanded not merely to STOP but rather to HALT. Now being told to STOP is OK
    but it doesn't carry the military authority, the shear RSM decibels of HALT.

    HALT used to be written on a white sign board below a point down triangle in a circle.

    The wimpy Europeans didn't like being shouted at by RSM's and couldn't agree on a word to say STOP
    -- so they borrowed ours instead.

    For a while (ISTR) the new harmonised signs where a bit unharmonised and confusing. Those pesky
    Europeans used a non standard red octagon with STOP, we uses a point down triangle surrounded by a
    red circle with either HALT or STOP in it.

    Hey ho.

    As for the NSL sign, the older amongst us still think of it as 'Any Speed You Like' -- i.e. a
    derestriction sign and so part of the family with 'you can now overtake etc.

    Of course most know that it isn't a 'real' derestriction sign but a throwback to an earlier age.
    Some residents of northern provinces of this fair land still have trouble with this fine but
    historic distinction.

    Signs with red circles are don't do, point down triangles are do and point up triangles
    are warnings.

    T

  17. Geraint Jones said:

    Stephen Gower <[email hidden]> wrote: ( Geraint Jones
    <[email hidden]> wrote: ) >"Simon Mason"
    <[email hidden]> wrote: ( >( Cyclists are asked to dismount for no reason at all
    here: ) > ) ( >( simonmason.karoo.netzfarce.htm ) > ( >Not that I want you to think
    that I am a pedant or anything, but ) >I think they're only "advised" to do so (for no obvious
    reason). ( ) I always assume (with the lack of punctuation) that such signs are ( a statement
    of fact.

    Were it so it would be most misleading for surely it is not cyclists per se, but rather people who
    happen to be on bicycles that dismount.

    It may (beyond the fringe) be a loyal toast: Gentlemen lift the seat.

    I hope I'm not starting a roumor here but as I left the house this morning I thought I heard on BBC
    Breakfast something about a Geraint Jones getting married. If it's you, congratulations and I hope
    the day goes well. If it's not, have a good day anyway.
    --
    Mark Road bike, Mountain bike and I'm getting something special built for me (I hope it will
    arrive soon).

  18. "the Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ( Ihope I'm not starting a roumor here but as I left the house this morning I ) thought I heard on
    BBC Breakfast something about a Geraint Jones getting ( married. If it's you, ...

    No, not if it was on the haunted goldfishbowl: which one was that, was it the Kent cricketer Geraint
    Owen Jones? It is a distressingly common name, it could have been almost anyone. Well, almost anyone
    called geraint Jones. I used to have a web page with a list of all the Geraint Joneses I had been
    accused of being but it got to be a bit of a pain to maintain it. (I'm still struggling with the
    idea that Jonathan Agnew is chairman of the Nationwide building society.)

    Besides which we'd keep our wedding almost secret.

    No, really, we would.

  19. Geraint Jones said:

    "the Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ( Ihope I'm not starting a roumor here but as I left the house this morning I ) thought I heard
    on BBC Breakfast something about a Geraint Jones getting ( married. If it's you, ...

    bit of a pain to maintain it. (I'm still struggling with the idea that Jonathan Agnew is chairman
    of the Nationwide building society.)

    Besides which we'd keep our wedding almost secret.

    No, really, we would.

    You really think you could keep a wedding between you and Jonathan Agnew secret? :-D

    Tim.

    --
    God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = - @B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t," and there was light.

    tjw.hn.orgtjw.hn.org locofungus.btinternet.co.uklocofungus.btinternet.co.uk

  20. Geraint Jones said:

    "the Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ( Ihope I'm not starting a roumor here but as I left the house this morning I ) thought I heard
    on BBC Breakfast something about a Geraint Jones getting ( married. If it's you, ...

    No, not if it was on the haunted goldfishbowl: which one was that, was it the Kent cricketer
    Geraint Owen Jones? It is a distressingly common name, it could have been almost anyone. Well,
    almost anyone called geraint Jones. I used to have a web page with a list of all the Geraint
    Joneses I had been accused of being but it got to be a bit of a pain to maintain it. (I'm still
    struggling with the idea that Jonathan Agnew is chairman of the Nationwide building society.)

    Besides which we'd keep our wedding almost secret.

    No, really, we would.

    Sorry about that. Although I would say that where I come from (Edinburgh) Geraint is not common at
    all, in fact you are the first Geraint I've been aware of, (I'm not into cricket).
    --
    Mark Road bike, Mountain bike and I'm getting something special built for me (I hope it will
    arrive soon).

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