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  1. Is a "hand finished wheel" as good as a hand built wheel, or
    somewhere nearly as good.

    Martin.

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  2. Martin Dann said:

    Is a "hand finished wheel" as good as a hand built wheel, or
    somewhere nearly as good.

    Can be just as good. Machine built wheels don't tend to have enough
    tension and aren't stress relieved properly. A skilled builder can finish
    the job.

    ~PB

  3. Martin Dann said:

    Is a "hand finished wheel" as good as a hand built wheel, or
    somewhere nearly as good.

    Can be just as good. Machine built wheels don't tend to have enough
    tension and aren't stress relieved properly. A skilled builder can finish
    the job.

    ~PB

  4. Martin Dann said:

    Is a "hand finished wheel" as good as a hand built wheel, or
    somewhere nearly as good.

    Martin.


    If the finisher is good. There are a lot of machine built wheels with
    great components but insufficient tension, so these are ideal
    candidates. The lacing part is a process that a machine can do
    perfectly well, unless you want a weird spoke pattern or a specific
    direction of spoking on the rear wheel (for a freewheel, leading spokes
    outside are better, for a fixie, trailing spokes outside are better
    because they reduce the risk of a jammed chain).

  5. Martin Dann said:

    Is a "hand finished wheel" as good as a hand built wheel, or
    somewhere nearly as good.

    Martin.


    If the finisher is good. There are a lot of machine built wheels with
    great components but insufficient tension, so these are ideal
    candidates. The lacing part is a process that a machine can do
    perfectly well, unless you want a weird spoke pattern or a specific
    direction of spoking on the rear wheel (for a freewheel, leading spokes
    outside are better, for a fixie, trailing spokes outside are better
    because they reduce the risk of a jammed chain).

  6. Martin Dann said:

    Is a "hand finished wheel" as good as a hand built wheel, or
    somewhere nearly as good.

    Martin.


    If the finisher is good. There are a lot of machine built wheels with
    great components but insufficient tension, so these are ideal
    candidates. The lacing part is a process that a machine can do
    perfectly well, unless you want a weird spoke pattern or a specific
    direction of spoking on the rear wheel (for a freewheel, leading spokes
    outside are better, for a fixie, trailing spokes outside are better
    because they reduce the risk of a jammed chain).

  7. Zog The Undeniable said:

    The lacing part is a process that a machine can do perfectly well,
    unless you want a weird spoke pattern or a specific direction of
    spoking on the rear wheel (for a freewheel, leading spokes outside
    are better, for a fixie, trailing spokes outside are better
    because they reduce the risk of a jammed chain).

    A machine can actually do the whole job as well as a human. The reason
    it usually isn't done is that it would take longer, and the reason for
    using the machine in the first place is to get the job done to an
    acceptable standard as fast as possible.

    There are a couple of other things a human builder will take care over.
    He will usually ensure that you can read the hub label, if there is
    one, when you look through the valve hole, and that the rim labels are
    aligned the same way. Also, with conventional lacing, there should be
    two leading spokes one side of the valve hole and two trailing ones the
    other so there is the widest possible space to get a pump to the valve.
    Hand finishing will not address any of these fine details.

    --
    Dave...

  8. dkahn400 said:


    There are a couple of other things a human builder will take care over.
    He will usually ensure that you can read the hub label, if there is
    one, when you look through the valve hole,

    Why? Technical or aesthetic reasons?

    --
    Nobby

  9. Nobody Here said:
    dkahn400 said:


    There are a couple of other things a human builder will take care
    over. He will usually ensure that you can read the hub label, if
    there is one, when you look through the valve hole,

    Why? Technical or aesthetic reasons?

    Aesthetic... although I bet someone will come up with an obscure
    technical basis :-)

    ~PB

  10. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    Nobody Here said:
    dkahn400 said:


    There are a couple of other things a human builder will take care
    over. He will usually ensure that you can read the hub label, if
    there is one, when you look through the valve hole,

    Why? Technical or aesthetic reasons?

    Aesthetic... although I bet someone will come up with an obscure
    technical basis :-)

    ~PB

    Me, me, me! Can I??
    Label normally covers join in the rim which has slightly more weight, so
    building opposite valve
    will balance it...
    Honest guv.

    G.

  11. Pete Biggs said:
    Nobody Here said:
    dkahn400 said:


    There are a couple of other things a human builder will take
    care over. He will usually ensure that you can read the hub
    label, if there is one, when you look through the valve hole,

    Why? Technical or aesthetic reasons?

    Aesthetic... although I bet someone will come up with an obscure
    technical basis :-)

    No, it's purely personal pride on the part of the wheel builder. It
    can't possibly affect the performance of the wheel, but it does
    indicate that care has been taken over the build.

    --
    Dave...

  12. Graham Dean said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > There are a couple of other things a human builder will take care
    > over. He will usually ensure that you can read the hub label, if
    > there is one, when you look through the valve hole,

    Why? Technical or aesthetic reasons?

    Aesthetic... although I bet someone will come up with an obscure
    technical basis :-)

    Me, me, me! Can I??
    Label normally covers join in the rim which has slightly more weight,
    so building opposite valve
    will balance it...
    Honest guv.

    Wot's that got to do with the *hub*! :-)

    ~PB

  13. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Graham Dean said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> There are a couple of other things a human builder will take care
    >> over. He will usually ensure that you can read the hub label, if
    >> there is one, when you look through the valve hole,
    >
    > Why? Technical or aesthetic reasons?

    Aesthetic... although I bet someone will come up with an obscure
    technical basis :-)

    Me, me, me! Can I??
    Label normally covers join in the rim which has slightly more weight,
    so building opposite valve
    will balance it...
    Honest guv.

    Wot's that got to do with the *hub*! :-)

    ~PB

    Oops, absolutely nothing!
    I'm expected to read as well?
    I'll get my spds...

    G.

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