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  1. I have read that 25 or even up to 50 mg of DHEA is safe. Recently I've read
    that no more than 5 mg should be taken.
    And if you have any type of cancer, none should be taken. But if you don't
    have cancer, it prevents it.
    I notice it sometimes makes me irritable and have even noticed some hair
    loss taking the 25 mg for a month. However it does give energy and helps
    muscle strength.
    I've just stopped taking the 25 mg. And may start back on just 5 mg.

    Anyone have any info on this and what should be a daily supplement amount?

    Thanks

  2. Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?

  3. No. I've read everyone starts to lose it as they get older. I'm 49.

    "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    | Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?
    |

  4. I would be willing to bet he has blood.

    "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?

  5. I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl! You must
    still be "ROFLMFAO".
    (did i get that right?)

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    |
    | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?
    | >
    |
    |

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Stacy said:

    I have read that 25 or even up to 50 mg of DHEA is safe. Recently I've read
    that no more than 5 mg should be taken.
    And if you have any type of cancer, none should be taken. But if you don't
    have cancer, it prevents it.
    I notice it sometimes makes me irritable and have even noticed some hair
    loss taking the 25 mg for a month. However it does give energy and helps
    muscle strength.
    I've just stopped taking the 25 mg. And may start back on just 5 mg.

    Anyone have any info on this and what should be a daily supplement amount?

    Thanks

    It seems the info. on this is all over the scale. :-)
    I've taken 50 to 100 mg. per day now for the past two years and only
    started having hair thinning since I lost a large amount of weight, so I
    attributed it to THAT.

    When I went on a tuna fish salad and celery kick, my hair started
    growing back from the inactive follicles. I can hardly wait 'till all
    those little short hairs get to be a decent length so they blend back in!

    I blame the hair loss on nutrition (or lack thereof), not the DHEA.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question about
    blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about, not you.
    I didn't make the decreasing post.

    When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with muscle
    without exercise. I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    again. I had more energy and gained weight.

    My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's feet"
    around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great. She is
    52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a certain
    amount.

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl! You must
    still be "ROFLMFAO".
    (did i get that right?)

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    |
    | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?
    | >
    |
    |

  8. I take a dozen or so supps/minerals including fish oils so I know I am not
    suffering any defiencies. I have taken dhea off and on for past 8 years but
    only recently started taking it every day for about two months straight.
    This was when i noticed the hair loss. Everyone has different needs tho.
    Maybe your hair loss wasn't the dhea. But I've cut my usage out for now to
    see what happens. I will either get 5 mg ti take for every day or take the
    25 mg i have every 5 days.

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    | In article <[email hidden]>,
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    | > I have read that 25 or even up to 50 mg of DHEA is safe. Recently I've
    read
    | > that no more than 5 mg should be taken.
    | > And if you have any type of cancer, none should be taken. But if you
    don't
    | > have cancer, it prevents it.
    | > I notice it sometimes makes me irritable and have even noticed some hair
    | > loss taking the 25 mg for a month. However it does give energy and helps
    | > muscle strength.
    | > I've just stopped taking the 25 mg. And may start back on just 5 mg.
    | >
    | > Anyone have any info on this and what should be a daily supplement
    amount?
    | >
    | > Thanks
    | >
    | >
    |
    | It seems the info. on this is all over the scale. :-)
    | I've taken 50 to 100 mg. per day now for the past two years and only
    | started having hair thinning since I lost a large amount of weight, so I
    | attributed it to THAT.
    |
    | When I went on a tuna fish salad and celery kick, my hair started
    | growing back from the inactive follicles. I can hardly wait 'till all
    | those little short hairs get to be a decent length so they blend back in!
    |
    | I blame the hair loss on nutrition (or lack thereof), not the DHEA.
    | --
    | Om.
    |
    | "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
    Nicholson

  9. No. It would be nice to know, but too much of a hassel since you would have
    to test often.. One test is not going to tell you much. It fluctuates.

    "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    | Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?
    |

  10. "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question about
    | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about, not
    you.
    | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    |
    | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with muscle
    | without exercise.

    I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.

    I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | again. I had more energy and gained weight.

    The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza and you
    thought it was your muscles.

    |
    | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's feet"
    | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.

    Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you use
    them.)

    She is
    | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a certain
    | amount.

    So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?

    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl! You
    must
    | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > (did i get that right?)
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > |
    | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Stacy said:

    I take a dozen or so supps/minerals including fish oils so I know I am not
    suffering any defiencies. I have taken dhea off and on for past 8 years but
    only recently started taking it every day for about two months straight.
    This was when i noticed the hair loss. Everyone has different needs tho.
    Maybe your hair loss wasn't the dhea. But I've cut my usage out for now to
    see what happens. I will either get 5 mg ti take for every day or take the
    25 mg i have every 5 days.

    Ok, keep us posted please? :-)
    If you have the gene for male pattern baldness, the testosterone
    conversion from the DHEA might set it off.....

    Oh, and don't discount amino acid deficiencies.
    Are you eating plenty of meat? Even tho' I'm low carbing,
    I was eating more fat than protein (calorie-wise) in an effort to speed
    up the fat loss.

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  12. The question about a blood test was funny. I would test for cancer at
    the same time I tested for low DHEA. If there is a slight chance it
    encourages cancer it's not worth the risk. Hair loss doesn't help. I
    have heard women go for balding men. Is that how it helps male sexual
    function?

  13. Stacy,

    I believe the efficacy of supplemented DHEA varies widely because of
    different manufacturers. I don't know how much you know about it but DHEA is
    a precursor to various hormones eg. testosterone & estrogen. This is
    probably why you have been made irritable (increased testosterone) and
    hairloss may be from increased DHT? As I am not a doctor these are only my
    guesses and I don't presume to know it all about DHEA. A friend of mine,
    Stephen Cherniske, wrote a book called "The DHEA Breakthrough". It is very
    informative and although it was written in the late 90's Stephen was right
    on with his research. He continues to do anti-aging research and has written
    another book called "The Metabolic Plan". He is now the President and Chief
    Science Officer for Oasis Lifesciences. Oasis produces a product called
    Ageless Prime and it contains 2 forms of DHEA. The standard DHEA is only 7
    mg and the other form (7-keto DHEA) is 15 mg. The difference and benefit of
    7-keto DHEA over regular DHEA is it cannot convert to testosterone or
    estrogen. So you know that it is benefitting you in the way you want it to
    and won't synthesize into other hormones you may not need. If you want to
    check out their products you can follow this link:
    http://www.oasislifesciences.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=59
    I hope this helps you in your quest to be healthier!

    To order from Oasis you need to be referred by an independent associate and
    use their ID number. If you decide to order from them you can contact
    [email hidden] and someone will be in touch with you quickly.

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have read that 25 or even up to 50 mg of DHEA is safe. Recently I've
    read
    that no more than 5 mg should be taken.
    And if you have any type of cancer, none should be taken. But if you don't
    have cancer, it prevents it.
    I notice it sometimes makes me irritable and have even noticed some hair
    loss taking the 25 mg for a month. However it does give energy and helps
    muscle strength.
    I've just stopped taking the 25 mg. And may start back on just 5 mg.

    Anyone have any info on this and what should be a daily supplement amount?

    Thanks

  14. Muscles do not take exercise to grow. They take genetics and chemistry.

    e.g. Look at many of the African descent blacks with bodies to put most
    white males to shame. Cut up and a bopdy to die for and yet maost of them
    have never lifted a weight in their life and could barely lift the basic
    bar....and yet ***sign*** those sleek, long bellied, striated
    muscles....[censored]!

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question about
    | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about, not
    you.
    | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    |
    | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with muscle
    | without exercise.

    I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.

    I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | again. I had more energy and gained weight.

    The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza and


    you

    Quoted message said:

    thought it was your muscles.

    |
    | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's


    feet"

    Quoted message said:

    | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.

    Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you use
    them.)

    She is
    | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a certain
    | amount.

    So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?

    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl! You
    must
    | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > (did i get that right?)
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > |
    | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |

  15. They WORK. Look at construction workers. Ever see their naturally developed
    biceps from the constant lifting and hammering? I knew some who never saw a
    gym and had a lot of muscles. My dad was another example. A welder by
    profession and avid gardner and fisherman when not working. He had biceps
    most men would kill for. Never saw a gym. But got the muscles the old
    fashioned way. Hard manual work.

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122258763.591980162dc53cb01576912befee78a5@teranews...
    | Muscles do not take exercise to grow. They take genetics and chemistry.
    |
    | e.g. Look at many of the African descent blacks with bodies to put most
    | white males to shame. Cut up and a bopdy to die for and yet maost of them
    | have never lifted a weight in their life and could barely lift the basic
    | bar....and yet ***sign*** those sleek, long bellied, striated
    | muscles....[censored]!
    |
    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    | > |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question about
    | > | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about,
    not
    | > you.
    | > | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    | > |
    | > | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with
    muscle
    | > | without exercise.
    | >
    | > I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.
    | >
    | > I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | > | again. I had more energy and gained weight.
    | >
    | > The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza and
    | you
    | > thought it was your muscles.
    | >
    | > |
    | > | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's
    | feet"
    | > | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.
    | >
    | > Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you use
    | > them.)
    | >
    | > She is
    | > | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a certain
    | > | amount.
    | >
    | > So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?
    | >
    | > |
    | > | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl!
    You
    | > must
    | > | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > | > (did i get that right?)
    | > | >
    | > | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to supplement?
    | > | > | >
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |

  16. The people I see have never lifted more than a sandwich. What would the
    natives of Dominican Replublic work at? They have no jobs and no strength
    either. My arms were less than half their size and yet I could tear off the
    arm of a man twice my size despite their impressive musclature.

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    They WORK. Look at construction workers. Ever see their naturally


    developed

    Quoted message said:

    biceps from the constant lifting and hammering? I knew some who never saw


    a

    Quoted message said:

    gym and had a lot of muscles. My dad was another example. A welder by
    profession and avid gardner and fisherman when not working. He had biceps
    most men would kill for. Never saw a gym. But got the muscles the old
    fashioned way. Hard manual work.

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122258763.591980162dc53cb01576912befee78a5@teranews...
    | Muscles do not take exercise to grow. They take genetics and chemistry.
    |
    | e.g. Look at many of the African descent blacks with bodies to put most
    | white males to shame. Cut up and a bopdy to die for and yet maost of


    them

    Quoted message said:

    | have never lifted a weight in their life and could barely lift the basic
    | bar....and yet ***sign*** those sleek, long bellied, striated
    | muscles....[censored]!
    |
    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    | > |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question


    about

    Quoted message said:

    | > | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about,
    not
    | > you.
    | > | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    | > |
    | > | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with
    muscle
    | > | without exercise.
    | >
    | > I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.
    | >
    | > I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | > | again. I had more energy and gained weight.
    | >
    | > The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza


    and

    Quoted message said:

    | you
    | > thought it was your muscles.
    | >
    | > |
    | > | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's
    | feet"
    | > | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.
    | >
    | > Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you


    use

    Quoted message said:

    | > them.)
    | >
    | > She is
    | > | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a


    certain

    Quoted message said:

    | > | amount.
    | >
    | > So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?
    | >
    | > |
    | > | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl!
    You
    | > must
    | > | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > | > (did i get that right?)
    | > | >
    | > | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to


    supplement?

    Quoted message said:

    | > | > | >
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |

  17. The people I see have never lifted more than a sandwich. What would the
    natives of Dominican Replublic work at? They have no jobs and no strength
    either. My arms were less than half their size and yet I could tear off the
    arm of a man twice my size despite their impressive musclature.

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    They WORK. Look at construction workers. Ever see their naturally


    developed

    Quoted message said:

    biceps from the constant lifting and hammering? I knew some who never saw


    a

    Quoted message said:

    gym and had a lot of muscles. My dad was another example. A welder by
    profession and avid gardner and fisherman when not working. He had biceps
    most men would kill for. Never saw a gym. But got the muscles the old
    fashioned way. Hard manual work.

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122258763.591980162dc53cb01576912befee78a5@teranews...
    | Muscles do not take exercise to grow. They take genetics and chemistry.
    |
    | e.g. Look at many of the African descent blacks with bodies to put most
    | white males to shame. Cut up and a bopdy to die for and yet maost of


    them

    Quoted message said:

    | have never lifted a weight in their life and could barely lift the basic
    | bar....and yet ***sign*** those sleek, long bellied, striated
    | muscles....[censored]!
    |
    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    | > |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question


    about

    Quoted message said:

    | > | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about,
    not
    | > you.
    | > | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    | > |
    | > | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with
    muscle
    | > | without exercise.
    | >
    | > I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.
    | >
    | > I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | > | again. I had more energy and gained weight.
    | >
    | > The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza


    and

    Quoted message said:

    | you
    | > thought it was your muscles.
    | >
    | > |
    | > | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's
    | feet"
    | > | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.
    | >
    | > Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you


    use

    Quoted message said:

    | > them.)
    | >
    | > She is
    | > | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a


    certain

    Quoted message said:

    | > | amount.
    | >
    | > So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?
    | >
    | > |
    | > | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl!
    You
    | > must
    | > | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > | > (did i get that right?)
    | > | >
    | > | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to


    supplement?

    Quoted message said:

    | > | > | >
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |

  18. The people I see have never lifted more than a sandwich. What would the
    natives of Dominican Replublic work at? They have no jobs and no strength
    either. My arms were less than half their size and yet I could tear off the
    arm of a man twice my size despite their impressive musclature.

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    They WORK. Look at construction workers. Ever see their naturally


    developed

    Quoted message said:

    biceps from the constant lifting and hammering? I knew some who never saw


    a

    Quoted message said:

    gym and had a lot of muscles. My dad was another example. A welder by
    profession and avid gardner and fisherman when not working. He had biceps
    most men would kill for. Never saw a gym. But got the muscles the old
    fashioned way. Hard manual work.

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122258763.591980162dc53cb01576912befee78a5@teranews...
    | Muscles do not take exercise to grow. They take genetics and chemistry.
    |
    | e.g. Look at many of the African descent blacks with bodies to put most
    | white males to shame. Cut up and a bopdy to die for and yet maost of


    them

    Quoted message said:

    | have never lifted a weight in their life and could barely lift the basic
    | bar....and yet ***sign*** those sleek, long bellied, striated
    | muscles....[censored]!
    |
    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    | > |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question


    about

    Quoted message said:

    | > | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about,
    not
    | > you.
    | > | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    | > |
    | > | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with
    muscle
    | > | without exercise.
    | >
    | > I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.
    | >
    | > I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | > | again. I had more energy and gained weight.
    | >
    | > The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza


    and

    Quoted message said:

    | you
    | > thought it was your muscles.
    | >
    | > |
    | > | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's
    | feet"
    | > | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.
    | >
    | > Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you


    use

    Quoted message said:

    | > them.)
    | >
    | > She is
    | > | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a


    certain

    Quoted message said:

    | > | amount.
    | >
    | > So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?
    | >
    | > |
    | > | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl!
    You
    | > must
    | > | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > | > (did i get that right?)
    | > | >
    | > | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to


    supplement?

    Quoted message said:

    | > | > | >
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
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  19. The people I see have never lifted more than a sandwich. What would the
    natives of Dominican Replublic work at? They have no jobs and no strength
    either. My arms were less than half their size and yet I could tear off the
    arm of a man twice my size despite their impressive musclature.

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    They WORK. Look at construction workers. Ever see their naturally


    developed

    Quoted message said:

    biceps from the constant lifting and hammering? I knew some who never saw


    a

    Quoted message said:

    gym and had a lot of muscles. My dad was another example. A welder by
    profession and avid gardner and fisherman when not working. He had biceps
    most men would kill for. Never saw a gym. But got the muscles the old
    fashioned way. Hard manual work.

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122258763.591980162dc53cb01576912befee78a5@teranews...
    | Muscles do not take exercise to grow. They take genetics and chemistry.
    |
    | e.g. Look at many of the African descent blacks with bodies to put most
    | white males to shame. Cut up and a bopdy to die for and yet maost of


    them

    Quoted message said:

    | have never lifted a weight in their life and could barely lift the basic
    | bar....and yet ***sign*** those sleek, long bellied, striated
    | muscles....[censored]!
    |
    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    | > |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question


    about

    Quoted message said:

    | > | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about,
    not
    | > you.
    | > | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    | > |
    | > | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with
    muscle
    | > | without exercise.
    | >
    | > I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.
    | >
    | > I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | > | again. I had more energy and gained weight.
    | >
    | > The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza


    and

    Quoted message said:

    | you
    | > thought it was your muscles.
    | >
    | > |
    | > | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's
    | feet"
    | > | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.
    | >
    | > Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you


    use

    Quoted message said:

    | > them.)
    | >
    | > She is
    | > | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a


    certain

    Quoted message said:

    | > | amount.
    | >
    | > So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?
    | >
    | > |
    | > | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl!
    You
    | > must
    | > | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > | > (did i get that right?)
    | > | >
    | > | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to


    supplement?

    Quoted message said:

    | > | > | >
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |

  20. The people I see have never lifted more than a sandwich. What would the
    natives of Dominican Replublic work at? They have no jobs and no strength
    either. My arms were less than half their size and yet I could tear off the
    arm of a man twice my size despite their impressive musclature.

    "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    They WORK. Look at construction workers. Ever see their naturally


    developed

    Quoted message said:

    biceps from the constant lifting and hammering? I knew some who never saw


    a

    Quoted message said:

    gym and had a lot of muscles. My dad was another example. A welder by
    profession and avid gardner and fisherman when not working. He had biceps
    most men would kill for. Never saw a gym. But got the muscles the old
    fashioned way. Hard manual work.

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1122258763.591980162dc53cb01576912befee78a5@teranews...
    | Muscles do not take exercise to grow. They take genetics and chemistry.
    |
    | e.g. Look at many of the African descent blacks with bodies to put most
    | white males to shame. Cut up and a bopdy to die for and yet maost of


    them

    Quoted message said:

    | have never lifted a weight in their life and could barely lift the basic
    | bar....and yet ***sign*** those sleek, long bellied, striated
    | muscles....[censored]!
    |
    |
    | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | >
    | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > news:1122155689.44d41650f1d9ba1fb422b9d574a516d2@teranews...
    | > |I knew that. I am informed of DHEA and it's effects. The question


    about

    Quoted message said:

    | > | blood tests was a moronic one and that was what the sarc was about,
    not
    | > you.
    | > | I didn't make the decreasing post.
    | > |
    | > | When I took DHEA at about 25-50mg per day, my body pumped up with
    muscle
    | > | without exercise.
    | >
    | > I don't think muscles can grow without exercise.
    | >
    | > I felt like a teenager, I craved chocolate and pizza
    | > | again. I had more energy and gained weight.
    | >
    | > The weight gain may have been from the increased chocolate and pizza


    and

    Quoted message said:

    | you
    | > thought it was your muscles.
    | >
    | > |
    | > | My wife has lived on 50mg of DHEA for the last 5 years. Her "crow's
    | feet"
    | > | around her eyes disapeared agter a few months and her skin is great.
    | >
    | > Now, this may be possible. (But again, muscles only increase if you


    use

    Quoted message said:

    | > them.)
    | >
    | > She is
    | > | 52 yoa and none of it came back. She is overweighhjt though a


    certain

    Quoted message said:

    | > | amount.
    | >
    | > So who is the pizza "girl" you or your wife?
    | >
    | > |
    | > | "Stacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > I was talking of decreasing levels of dhea, not blood pizza girl!
    You
    | > must
    | > | > still be "ROFLMFAO".
    | > | > (did i get that right?)
    | > | >
    | > | > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > news:1122095330.01deb606d1a65b34c958c39efabe1410@teranews...
    | > | > |I would be willing to bet he has blood.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "claytid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | > | > | news:[email hidden]...
    | > | > | > Have you had a blood test to see if you even need to


    supplement?

    Quoted message said:

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