On the OLN coverage today...when Armstrong was done with the time trial the announcers said he was heading to the doping vehicle for a test. Do all the riders get tested after the time trial?
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steve26 said:
On the OLN coverage today...when Armstrong was done with the time trial the announcers said he was heading to the doping vehicle for a test. Do all the riders get tested after the time trial?
The winner is tested after each stage. Not sure if the jersey guys are tested each stage, but the winner is for sure. -
Did Dario Frigo get tested too?
Was 1978 the last time a yellow jersey was DQed?
Do those alleged tests include screens for:
human Growth Hormones? Interlukins?
EPO micro dosing?
vasodilators?
and Hemopure, HBOCs? www.biopure.com
If not, why bother except for appearances?
[quote="azdroptop"]The winner is tested after each stage. Not sure if the jersey guys are tested each stage, but the winner is for sure.
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That's right. I forgot the only reason Lance won was cause he had better drugs then everyone else🙂
Are his drugs also better than everyone else who has ever been on his team in the last 7 years?
Not saying he is 100% for sure not doping, but regardless he is the best in the sport for 7 years running....and that can not be all stated as simply as "his drugs are better."
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Does not matter what you or I think---only what the riders and doctors themselves think and say.
They say that the boys on the front end of the race were on a wholly different program--hence two TDFs.
Much like Carl Lewis [censored] that Ben defeated him.
In the TDF--doping is always your chief explanation.
steve26 said:
That's right. I forgot the only reason Lance won was cause he had better drugs then everyone else🙂
Are his drugs also better than everyone else who has ever been on his team in the last 7 years?
Not saying he is 100% for sure not doping, but regardless he is the best in the sport for 7 years running....and that can not be all stated as simply as "his drugs are better."
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David Millar who won the final TT in Nantes two years ago doped the evening before the TT, i'm sure that was found out later by investigation? Anyone have anymore info? If so I think it's definately a case of micro EPO, since he never tested positive, yet he still did EPO.
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steve26 said:
On the OLN coverage today...when Armstrong was done with the time trial the announcers said he was heading to the doping vehicle for a test. Do all the riders get tested after the time trial?
Doping Bus ??? Oh man, Like I thought you were telling me that the TDF has implemented buses like they have at the Grateful Dead concerts of years past ...... -
wolfix said:
Doping Bus ??? Oh man, Like I thought you were telling me that the TDF has implemented buses like they have at the Grateful Dead concerts of years past ......
"and Jerry Garcia has just gone through the 39km check at 1min 02secs, up on Keith Richard but Syd Barrett is still in the lead with..............."
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[font=Verdana]He also won the world championships TT and doped up to his eyeballs and still passed the test..... its so hard to get information on this.... like how did he pass these two tests when he admitted to using EPO in both races......?
[/font]Ullefan said:
David Millar who won the final TT in Nantes two years ago doped the evening before the TT, i'm sure that was found out later by investigation? Anyone have anymore info? If so I think it's definately a case of micro EPO, since he never tested positive, yet he still did EPO.
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In the case of top ten GC riders, corruption rules over testing. Micro, macro, HBOC, transfusions, what the difference if no lab report is ever typed up?
Think about it? Look at the podiums just with Lance.
Alex Zulle, Ramundas Rumsas, Christophe Moreau, Richard Virenque, Tyler Hamilton (4th) all proven dopers.
Lance as clean as a lilly surrounded by anemia, steroid and amphetamine drug abusers?
The only activity going on inside a TDF doping van is "autograph sessions"!
[quote="Ullefan"]David Millar who won the final TT in Nantes two years ago doped the evening before the TT, i'm sure that was found out later by investigation? Anyone have anymore info? If so I think it's definately a case of micro EPO, since he never tested positive, yet he still did EPO.
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steve26 said:
On the OLN coverage today...when Armstrong was done with the time trial the announcers said he was heading to the doping vehicle for a test. Do all the riders get tested after the time trial?
The term "doping bus" is a term used by J.Edgar Hoover , the transsexual homosexual and paranid schizophrenic who was in charge of America's most embarressing government agency. He used this term to describe the buses that hauled peace loving people from the Haight Ashbury district in San Fransico to a "farm" in Tennesee. So , whenever a paranoid government official see's a bus , he has to report it back to officials as a "doping bus." That's the code word used in most countries by government officials to describe the harresment of people that have acheived something in life more then just getting a government job.
Of couse , I may be wrong but the similarity to the way our prized athletes are treated by the doping agencies is the way J.Edgar Hoover treated American citizens. The doping agencies goes sneaking into rooms at night, searches garbage cans for evidence ,and even storms the athletes rooms at night to collect evidence. And guess what Flyer , they never found anything to link Lance to any dope.......
After the spin on put on this I probably will get audited by the IRS for the next 10 years....... -
Wolfman:
You are a paradox--and funny too.
You admit to using stimulants in sports but you zealously cover for elite dopers.
Lance----linked himself to doping products.
On his own website in December 2000 Lance admitted that USPO carried Acto-something and insulin.
It was so startling, that the very next day, mark Gorski had to clarify what lance meant--and that Actovegin (cow blood, sythetic hemaglobin) was NOT on the UCI banned list.
And the insulin was for a USPO employee who must be kept confidential (Typically you want folks to know who is a diabetic, but not so at Postal)
The IOC then banned Actovegin from all sports.
Product was not clinically approved--so who knew it even existed. Thank God for the French TV-3 crew.
Keep em howling Wolf.
wolfix said:
The term "doping bus" is a term used by J.Edgar Hoover , the transsexual homosexual and paranid schizophrenic who was in charge of America's most embarressing government agency. He used this term to describe the buses that hauled peace loving people from the Haight Ashbury district in San Fransico to a "farm" in Tennesee. So , whenever a paranoid government official see's a bus , he has to report it back to officials as a "doping bus." That's the code word used in most countries by government officials to describe the harresment of people that have acheived something in life more then just getting a government job.
Of couse , I may be wrong but the similarity to the way our prized athletes are treated by the doping agencies is the way J.Edgar Hoover treated American citizens. The doping agencies goes sneaking into rooms at night, searches garbage cans for evidence ,and even storms the athletes rooms at night to collect evidence. And guess what Flyer , they never found anything to link Lance to any dope.......
After the spin on put on this I probably will get audited by the IRS for the next 10 years....... -
wolfix said:
Doping Bus ??? Oh man, Like I thought you were telling me that the TDF has implemented buses like they have at the Grateful Dead concerts of years past ......
errr
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steve26 said:
On the OLN coverage today...when Armstrong was done with the time trial the announcers said he was heading to the doping vehicle for a test. Do all the riders get tested after the time trial?
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steve26 said:
On the OLN coverage today...when Armstrong was done with the time trial the announcers said he was heading to the doping vehicle for a test. Do all the riders get tested after the time trial?
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