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  1. I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly
    posted it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    Pastorio
    ----------------------------------------------------
    The all-wrong, amazingly-good, new-wave French Fries
    Listen up. I’m about to walk you through a way to cook French fries
    that’s completely wrong. It flies in the face of everything we all know
    about deep-frying. It guarantees failure. It insures disaster. Except
    it results in some of the very best fries I’ve ever had. I read about
    this cooking method as written by Jeffrey Steingarten in “The Man Who
    Ate Everything” and which I heartily recommend.
    Some of the things we all know will be bad if you’re frying look like this:
    * Potatoes won’t brown very well in fresh oil.
    * If the oil isn’t very hot, the potatoes will absorb it and be very greasy.
    * You need a lot of oil to deep fry anything; enough for the foods to
    move around freely.
    * Foods being deep-fried need to be stirred or shaken to make sure they
    don’t stick together.
    * Temperature is very critical and too high or too low means foods will
    be improperly cooked and maybe even dangerous.
    I’m sure you know even more of these doom forecasts. We’re about to
    point at them and laugh. To wave our fingers in the faces of doom and
    danger. To run off cackling in the secure knowledge that we’re right and
    they’re wrong. Or, um, we will after I tell you what we’re talking about.
    For frying, older potatoes work best. They’re starchier and generally
    have less moisture that has to be cooked out of them. Older potatoes are
    larger than young ones. Duh. For potato salad and the like, smaller and
    fresher potatoes are better because they stay more moist.
    For this particular approach, I used large russets which are generally
    considered best for baking. They’re drier and mealier and besides, they
    were the only ones I had since I bought them because I was on a baked
    potato kick. They were largish potatoes ranging in weight from about 12
    to about 16 ounces each. Big ones.
    So here’s where the “errors” begin. Let’s do this for four normal
    people - about four potatoes. Start by peeling the spuds. Or don’t.
    It doesn’t make any difference in cooking time or final texture except
    for the skin part, more about that in a minute.
    Lay them on your cutting board and cut them in half lengthwise. You now
    have two long potato halves. Cut the halves into slices longways, about
    1/4-inch thick. You now have big slices of potato, at least compared to
    the usual shoestring potatoes from most fast food joints. Don’t do
    anything to the potato slices yet.
    Here’s where it really breaks the rules. You only need enough oil to
    just cover the potatoes, not gallons. I used a 5-quart stewpot, but a
    large saucepan that holds a bit over a gallon will do it. Pour in about
    a quart and a half of some oil (we’ll talk more about that in a moment)
    but don’t turn the heat on. Slide the potato slices into the
    room-temperature oil a few at a time making sure that each one is coated
    by oil on all sides, until all the potatoes are fully immersed. If you
    need more oil, pour some in, but the potatoes should be just covered -
    maybe by a half-inch or so. Have faith.
    Turn the heat on under the pot to high heat. On an electric stove with
    a dial that goes from 1 to 10, set it at about 9. Do the corresponding
    thing with your gas stove. Timing is rather loose and the temperature
    will take care of itself.
    At first, it looks like nothing is happening. Then, as the heat climbs
    up over about 200F degrees, you’ll start to see bubbles. Maybe 6 or 8
    minutes have passed. You’ll be tempted to stir or somehow move the
    potato slices around. Resist the temptation. As the heat gets up near
    250F, the bubbling gets more pronounced but the potatoes are still just
    as white as when you put them in. Maybe 10 or 12 minutes in. Don’t stir
    them.
    When the oil gets up near 300F, you’ll start to see a little browning
    at the edges. It’s now up near 15 minutes since you turned the heat on.
    And now they start looking like French fries. Within another few
    minutes, the cut surfaces begin to brown rather nicely and the
    individual slices float. Now you can stir them very gently to satisfy
    your need to meddle.
    When the potatoes look like they’re done, a nice golden brown, scoop
    them up with slotted spoons or whatever you usually use and lay them out
    on paper towelling to drain. Congratulations, you’ve just made fries
    that are utterly wrong and utterly wonderful. Salt and eat while much
    too hot.
    If you don’t peel the potatoes, you get that nice, crisp skin to
    crunch. If you don’t like that, then peel. Or maybe peel half and leave
    the rest au naturel.
    The story about how I came to be doing the potatoes this way is a long
    and devious one. Here’s the short version. I had bought a goose to roast
    and, as we all know, geese are very, very fatty. I pulled out maybe 4
    handfuls of solid fat from the critter before I started roasting it. I’d
    heard that goose fat was good for frying, so I popped it into a skillet
    and turned the heat on to render it.
    It was amazing. The amount of fat was enormous and the nicely browned
    cracklings were good.
    I put the goose fat into the stewpot off the heat and cut the potatoes.
    The goose was happily roasting in the convection and was nearly done -
    maybe 25 minutes away. Peeled and cut the potatoes and slid them into
    the oil and had to add more. I used canola oil for a total just at a
    half gallon. Turned the heat on and hoped for my version of the
    untested recipe to work. Boy, did it work.
    The outside of the potato slices was a wonderful golden color and
    gently crisp. The inside was creamy smooth, almost like, if you can
    imagine it, slightly firm mashed potatoes. Amazing.
    We ate some of the goose, but we ate all of the potatoes. And we did
    more potatoes the next night. Skipped the third night. Fourth night, I
    sliced the goose off the bone and made a rich gravy to go with it. I
    peeled two of the potatoes and left the other two with skin on.
    That sliced goose. The gravy. Toast. Right. They combine to make open
    faced roast, um, goose sandwiches. Like open faced roast beef sandwiches
    but a little different. Served the fries with the sandwiches. Everything
    disappeared. Dipped the fries into the gravy. Heaven.
    I’m going to play with this approach with other veggies. Sweet
    potatoes. Maybe carrots. Who knows. Any ideas?

  2. Mi e' parso che Bob (this one) abbia scritto:

    Quoted message said:

    The all-wrong, amazingly-good, new-wave French Fries
    Listen up. I’m about to walk you through a way to cook
    French fries that’s completely wrong. It flies in the face of
    everything we all know about deep-frying. It guarantees
    failure. It insures disaster. Except it results in some of the
    very best fries I’ve ever had.

    Did you also try it without goose fat, or only with it in the
    mix?
    --
    Vilco
    Think Pink , Drink Rose'

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob (this one) said:

    I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly
    posted it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    Sounds simply ongerful; gotta try this (despite avoidance of fried
    stuff these days...)

  4. Vilco said:

    Mi e' parso che Bob (this one) abbia scritto:

    Quoted message said:

    The all-wrong, amazingly-good, new-wave French Fries
    Listen up. I’m about to walk you through a way to cook
    French fries that’s completely wrong. It flies in the face of
    everything we all know about deep-frying. It guarantees
    failure. It insures disaster. Except it results in some of the
    very best fries I’ve ever had.

    Did you also try it without goose fat, or only with it in the
    mix?

    I've done it with the goose mix, canola oil, soy oil and "vegetable" oil
    which is usually a commercial blend of oils.

    They all worked, but I liked the goose mixture best.

    Pastorio

  5. Bob (this one) said:

    I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly
    posted it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    Pastorio

    We are definitely going to try this method. DH really likes "crispy on
    the outside" fries, but if I use the "normal" method of frying, they get
    too overcooked for my liking. Thanks for the tip 🙂
    Cheers
    Cathy

  6. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly posted
    it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    <Methodology snipped>

    I believe you - not how do you make the second batch?

    Dimitri

  7. One time on Usenet said:

    I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly
    posted it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    Pastorio
    ----------------------------------------------------
    The all-wrong, amazingly-good, new-wave French Fries
    Listen up. I’m about to walk you through a way to cook French fries
    that’s completely wrong.

    <snip>

    Wrong or right, they sound great! I'll give them a try in the next week
    or so and report back. Thanks, Bob... :-)

    --
    Jani in WA (S'mee)
    ~ mom, VidGamer, novice cook, dieter ~

  8. Dimitri said:

    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly posted
    it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    <Methodology snipped>

    I believe you - now how do you make the second batch?

    That's the catch, isn't it?

    I do it this way: Take two large potatoes per person and follow
    methodology snipped above (It's like telling people to take a left where
    the big oak tree used to be).

    That makes enough that a second batch isn't necessary. Makes enough for
    leftovers. For French fry soup (it's good). Or French fry pizza (lay the
    fries on a non-stick pan and smoosh them together a bit. Pop into a hot
    oven for a while to get them hot, pull out cheese and sauce and toppings
    and back into the oven for a short melt-the-cheese cook and there it is.

    Pastorio

  9. cathyxyz said:


    Bob (this one) said:

    I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly
    posted it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    Pastorio

    We are definitely going to try this method. DH really likes "crispy on
    the outside" fries, but if I use the "normal" method of frying, they get
    too overcooked for my liking. Thanks for the tip 🙂
    Cheers
    Cathy

  10. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I wrote this a while back. Thought it might be of interest. I mistakenly
    posted it to rec.food.preserving earlier. Belongs here...

    Pastorio
    ----------------------------------------------------
    The all-wrong, amazingly-good, new-wave French Fries

    <methodology snipped>

    This sounds fabulous, frightfully wrong and fabulous. Can't wait to give
    this a try when the temperature in these here parts drops to something
    approaching civilized! Thanks for the tip,

    TammyM

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