Wow

Frank Drackman said:

I was just reviewing the current GC and was amazed by the placing of some of
the riders. Most notably:

73. Joseba Beloki (Sp), Liberty Seguros, 2:07:40
54. Iban Mayo (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, 1:47:18
45. Roberto Heras (Sp), Liberty Seguros, 1:28:38

Another tough year for some of the key Spanish climbers. I can understand
Beloki but I really thought that Mayo and Heras would be better placed at
this stage. I guess that teh Veulta will be redemption time.

It's even more amazing when you convert the times to miles. I think one of
the commentators said that one of the more well-known riders was literally
75 miles behind the leader in the Tour. Heh, that's like not even being in
the same race, ya know?

jj

Jet said:

It's even more amazing when you convert the times to miles. I think one of
the commentators said that one of the more well-known riders was literally
75 miles behind the leader in the Tour. Heh, that's like not even being in
the same race, ya know?

jj

Dumbass,

Actually, they've literally all gone the same distance.

thanks,
Smurf

Torched Smurf said:

Jet said:

It's even more amazing when you convert the times to miles. I think one of
the commentators said that one of the more well-known riders was literally
75 miles behind the leader in the Tour. Heh, that's like not even being in
the same race, ya know?

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Actually, they've literally all gone the same distance.

Dude,
He meant "figuratively". As in "explodes".
I reckon there should be a rule in stage racing that if your equivalent
distance is "one stage behind", you get biffed...

Quoted message said:

It's even more amazing when you convert the times to miles. I think one of
the commentators said that one of the more well-known riders was literally
75 miles behind the leader in the Tour. Heh, that's like not even being in
the same race, ya know?

In RAAM leads of 400 miles are not uncommon. Of course if RAAM was
doing the tdf, they would have finished a week ago. But with all the
sleeping, resting, eating, massaging, and just plain old farting around that
they do in the tdf, it takes them nearly a month to cover the miles, that
fredly raamsters could complete in a week and a half, at the most. But you
really can't compare the worlds toughest event, to this spectacle, show,
entertainment, or whatever it is.

On 07/20/2005 04:39 AM, in article
[email hidden], "Callistus Valerius"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's even more amazing when you convert the times to miles. I think one of
the commentators said that one of the more well-known riders was literally
75 miles behind the leader in the Tour. Heh, that's like not even being in
the same race, ya know?

In RAAM leads of 400 miles are not uncommon. Of course if RAAM was
doing the tdf, they would have finished a week ago. But with all the
sleeping, resting, eating, massaging, and just plain old farting around that
they do in the tdf, it takes them nearly a month to cover the miles, that
fredly raamsters could complete in a week and a half, at the most. But you
really can't compare the worlds toughest event, to this spectacle, show,
entertainment, or whatever it is.

At least TdF riders have lives.

I wonder if Danny Chin has gotten laid yet?

Ya gotta worry about those 40-ish virgins.

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Callistus Valerius said:

Quoted message said:

In RAAM leads of 400 miles are not uncommon. Of course if RAAM was
doing the tdf, they would have finished a week ago.

Steven L. Sheffield said:

At least TdF riders have lives.
I wonder if Danny Chin has gotten laid yet?
Ya gotta worry about those 40-ish virgins.

Thats ok, they can hold it up up with a strap.

Callistus Valerius said:

In RAAM leads of 400 miles are not uncommon. Of course if RAAM was
doing the tdf, they would have finished a week ago.

Yeah, but the RAAM riders have head straps, and the Tour de France
riders don't, so it's not a fair comparison.

JT

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Quoted message said:

In RAAM leads of 400 miles are not uncommon. Of course if RAAM was
doing the tdf, they would have finished a week ago.

Yeah, but the RAAM riders have head straps, and the Tour de France
riders don't, so it's not a fair comparison.

What's with this obsession with the head strap? It's no different than
a chin strap on a football helmet. After about 1000 miles, that's when
everyone says, now is the time to buckle up. Snap Snap Snap.

">

Quoted message said:

At least TdF riders have lives.

I can live without Sheryl, and I can live without Austin. Not to say
that those are bad, but I'm just as happy without them.

Callistus Valerius said:

Quoted message said:

In RAAM leads of 400 miles are not uncommon. Of course if RAAM was
doing the tdf, they would have finished a week ago. But with all the
sleeping, resting, eating, massaging, and just plain old farting around that
they do in the tdf, it takes them nearly a month to cover the miles, that
fredly raamsters could complete in a week and a half, at the most. But you
really can't compare the worlds toughest event, to this spectacle, show,
entertainment, or whatever it is.

Dumbass -

Right on baby!

FRed Across AMerica is the premier athletic sleep deprivation contest
of the twenty first century!

K. Gringioni.
fan of FRAAM

Frank Drackman said:

I was just reviewing the current GC and was amazed by the placing of
some of the riders. Most notably:

73. Joseba Beloki (Sp), Liberty Seguros, 2:07:40
54. Iban Mayo (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, 1:47:18
45. Roberto Heras (Sp), Liberty Seguros, 1:28:38

Another tough year for some of the key Spanish climbers. I can
understand Beloki but I really thought that Mayo and Heras would be
better placed at this stage. I guess that teh Veulta will be
redemption time.

The Vuelta will be won by Valverde..... and if he doesn't, he'll win the
Worlds this year :-)

Jan

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

I was just reviewing the current GC and was amazed by the placing of some of
the riders. Most notably:

73. Joseba Beloki (Sp), Liberty Seguros, 2:07:40
54. Iban Mayo (Sp), Euskaltel-Euskadi, 1:47:18
45. Roberto Heras (Sp), Liberty Seguros, 1:28:38

Another tough year for some of the key Spanish climbers. I can understand
Beloki but I really thought that Mayo and Heras would be better placed at
this stage. I guess that teh Veulta will be redemption time.

At the point they figure out they will not be in contention for the overall
win, they just take it easy and ride out the race. No need to kill yourself if
you aren't going to place well. They also save some energy for the Vuelta.
It would be interesting if Discovery could pull off a Vuelta win.
-------------
Alex

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's even more amazing when you convert the times to miles. I think one of
the commentators said that one of the more well-known riders was literally
75 miles behind the leader in the Tour. Heh, that's like not even being in
the same race, ya know?

In RAAM leads of 400 miles are not uncommon. Of course if RAAM was
doing the tdf, they would have finished a week ago. But with all the
sleeping, resting, eating, massaging, and just plain old farting around that
they do in the tdf, it takes them nearly a month to cover the miles, that
fredly raamsters could complete in a week and a half, at the most. But you
really can't compare the worlds toughest event, to this spectacle, show,
entertainment, or whatever it is.

Compare average speeds. You can't compare a competition where the one who can
sleep the least wins to a competition where the strongest rider wins.
---------------
Alex

" It would be interesting if Discovery could pull off a Vuelta win. "

DSC is the early favorite already with Danielson, Ace, and Popo in the
wings. I hope I didn't leave out any other Vuelta '05 GC guy for DSC.

We can hope!

-Ken P.

Quoted message said:

Compare average speeds. You can't compare a competition where the one who

can

Quoted message said:

sleep the least wins to a competition where the strongest rider wins.
---------------
Alex

Can't. In the tdf the riders draft their way around France. RAAM
doesn't allow drafting. Also in RAAM they ride at night. If you've ever
done long night riding, you feel like you're going 20 mph, and you look at
the speedo and you're going 14 mph. I think they could eliminate the sleep
deprivation, and have a rule that they have to stop 6 hours, every 24 hours.
That would make it civilized, and make it more athletic, and less dangerous.
The sleep deprivation, is a throw back to the depression era, where they had
all kinds of marathon type events, like dancing till people fell down on the
dance floor, and the last ones left standing won the prize. I think these
dance marathons went on for weeks.