I hope in subsequent Tours they consider eliminating those clappers and big foam hands and flags on poles. They are just dangerous to the cyclists. I doubt this will happen - I'm sure those damn things generate big bucks for someone.
As most have seen, Andre Kashechkin was hit in the face by one of those long clappers and had his nose bloodied. It appears that he quickly identified his 'attacker' and rode across the front of the peloton and back down the road to execute some justice. (Not a great idea, and certainly illegal, but good for him! I hope he smacked the [censored] out of the guy who hit him.)
down the road to execute some justice. (Not a great idea, and certainly illegal, but good for him! I hope he smacked the [censored] out of the guy who hit him.)
You male chauvinist pig, French TV later referred to a female perpetrator.
"Jet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I hope in subsequent Tours they consider eliminating those clappers and big foam hands and flags on poles. They are just dangerous to the cyclists. I doubt this will happen - I'm sure those damn things generate big bucks for someone.
As most have seen, Andre Kashechkin was hit in the face by one of those long clappers and had his nose bloodied. It appears that he quickly identified his 'attacker' and rode across the front of the peloton and back down the road to execute some justice. (Not a great idea, and certainly illegal, but good for him! I hope he smacked the [censored] out of the guy who hit him.)
jj
It appeared to me that he was going back to the team car to get his nose bandaged.
As most have seen, Andre Kashechkin was hit in the face by one of those long clappers and had his nose bloodied. It appears that he quickly identified his 'attacker' and rode across the front of the peloton and back down the road to execute some justice.
I think he just went back for the doctor, he was not that far past the point where he got hit.
I hope in subsequent Tours they consider eliminating those clappers and big foam hands and flags on poles. They are just dangerous to the cyclists. I doubt this will happen - I'm sure those damn things generate big bucks for someone.
The clappers are the most obnoxious things thrown out by the publicity caravan. They're really grating and annoying to listen to, and kids love them. They should have flushed those long ago.
As most have seen, Andre Kashechkin was hit in the face by one of those long clappers and had his nose bloodied. It appears that he quickly identified his 'attacker' and rode across the front of the peloton and back down the road to execute some justice.
I think he just went back for the doctor, he was not that far past the point where he got hit.
Though this seems logical to presume, why not just wait where he was for the doc to come up? I've never seen (or heard) of anyone riding back down the road against the peloton like that, risking D/Q. Very weird.
I don't know the race or the year, but Cipo once went off the front of the field on a break. I guess people were all taken by surprise, and as a joke, he turned around and rode back at the field. I don't remember them DQ'ing him. They seem pretty good about bending the rules for decent reasons (not sure jokes are one of them).
Though this seems logical to presume, why not just wait where he was for the doc to come up? I've never seen (or heard) of anyone riding back down the road against the peloton like that, risking D/Q. Very weird.
He just got bashed in the head while at maximum effort. His DS said that he was totally KO for a while.
I don't know the race or the year, but Cipo once went off the front of the field on a break. I guess people were all taken by surprise, and as a joke, he turned around and rode back at the field. I don't remember them DQ'ing him. They seem pretty good about bending the rules for decent reasons (not sure jokes are one of them).
Just recalled that someone, Ullrich, maybe, actually turned around and rode back down the chute after crossing the finish line in last year's tour. I think he wanted to avoid the media. So it happens, I 'spose.
Just recalled that someone, Ullrich, maybe, actually turned around and rode back down the chute after crossing the finish line in last year's tour.
That happens a lot (well, sometimes) at mountain top finishes because it's faster to the hotel that way than by bus. Maybe more at Giro and Vuelta because it's less crowded.
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The clappers are the most obnoxious things thrown out by the publicity caravan. They're really grating and annoying to listen to, and kids love them. They should have flushed those long ago.
ThunderStix. Totally a promotional item and thoroughly irritating. The Pac-10 specifically banned them the year following their introduction at football games.
Noise aside, anything that can extend the reach of a spectator toward the racers should be disallowed along the course (excepting the Devil's pitchfork). Out of control spectators have created a safety problem that is ready to blow up in the Tour organizers faces.
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Ewoud Dronkert said:
Jet said:
As most have seen, Andre Kashechkin was hit in the face by one of those long clappers and had his nose bloodied. It appears that he quickly identified his 'attacker' and rode across the front of the peloton and back down the road to execute some justice.
I think he just went back for the doctor, he was not that far past the point where he got hit.
Though this seems logical to presume, why not just wait where he was for the doc to come up? I've never seen (or heard) of anyone riding back down the road against the peloton like that, risking D/Q. Very weird.
René Vietto rode back in 1934, Abdel Kader Zaaf in 1950. Both became immediately famous, so it's not such a bad career move from Kashechkin. On the other hand, Schotte did it too in 1948, but the poor man had to be world champion twice to became as famous as the two other guys.
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The clappers are the most obnoxious things thrown out by the publicity caravan. They're really grating and annoying to listen to, and kids love them. They should have flushed those long ago.
ThunderStix. Totally a promotional item and thoroughly irritating. The Pac-10 specifically banned them the year following their introduction at football games.
Noise aside, anything that can extend the reach of a spectator toward the racers should be disallowed along the course (excepting the Devil's pitchfork). Out of control spectators have created a safety problem that is ready to blow up in the Tour organizers faces.
Bob Koreis TAcoma
We've certainly seen a harbinger of that with the unruly spectator trying to get the tattoo of a BMW engine on his body, lol.
Actually I doubt anything will make a difference, even the death of a spectator. I agree with you, something needs to be done sooner rather than later about implements.
Seems to be many more flagpoles with multiple flags on them being hung out over the road - several riders had to duck to avoid being un-horsed.
Wonder if the police arrested/detained a few of the more obstreperous fans here and there if it would put a lid on it? Heck, hand out pepper spray to all the cars and motorcycles and let 'em have at it. Sure would add to the spectacle, lol.
René Vietto rode back in 1934, Abdel Kader Zaaf in 1950. Both became immediately famous, so it's not such a bad career move from Kashechkin. On the other hand, Schotte did it too in 1948, but the poor man had to be world champion twice to became as famous as the two other guys.
On Tour 2005 on TV1 they were talking about it and Mattan remembered how Eric Vanderaerden did it on a bet once.
Those clappers are indeed a plague, but I suspect the fan may have actually caught him with her hand or arm.
Exaclty. ThunderStix are annoying as hell but they can't give you a bloody nose. Her hand caught him. She was facing away from him and never saw him coming. Stupid fan. Not too smart on the riders part to be so close to a group of crazy people swinging thunderstix out over the road.
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Ewoud Dronkert said:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:50:29 -0400, Jet wrote: > As most have seen, Andre Kashechkin was hit in the face by one of those > long clappers and had his nose bloodied. It appears that he quickly > identified his 'attacker' and rode across the front of the peloton and > back > down the road to execute some justice.
I think he just went back for the doctor, he was not that far past the point where he got hit.
Though this seems logical to presume, why not just wait where he was for the doc to come up? I've never seen (or heard) of anyone riding back down the road against the peloton like that, risking D/Q. Very weird.
René Vietto rode back in 1934, Abdel Kader Zaaf in 1950. Both became immediately famous, so it's not such a bad career move from Kashechkin. On the other hand, Schotte did it too in 1948, but the poor man had to be world champion twice to became as famous as the two other guys.
Benjo
Hi Benjo. Glad to see you're up and around! ;-)
Yes, as legend would have it, in 1934 Vietto rode back to find Antonin Magne and gave him his bike helping him to win that year, and in 1950, Zaaf fell asleep under a tree, riding the wrong way when he woke up.
Death of a spectator? It happens one every year or two! When I was on Courcheval the year Pantani won there over Lance, they shut down the road to riders HOURS early because the previous day someone rode their bike under a semi. Most spectators thought it more an inconvenience to their viewing pleasure than any sort of tragedy. Until they start putting 6' wide Cattle-Catchers on the front of the lead motorcycles or lining the climbs with barriers, it'll be an problem.
Those clappers are indeed a plague, but I suspect the fan may have actually caught him with her hand or arm.
Exaclty. ThunderStix are annoying as hell but they can't give you a bloody nose. Her hand caught him. She was facing away from him and never saw him coming. Stupid fan. Not too smart on the riders part to be so close to a group of crazy people swinging thunderstix out over the road.
Yeah, guess you have to forgive one's initial reaction which is to go and blame the fan, heh-heh.
As you say, it's up to the riders not to be so close whenever possible. Same as with the musette bag incident - the other riders are now quick to point out it was the rider's fault for cutting that corner too close.
Uh, but could we just go kick the crazy fan's ass just on principle, though? Maybe just once? OK, j/k <g>
