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  1. Hello all,

    I'm new to the recumbent community. I'm absolutely, positvely clueless about
    certain - and probably straight forward - things.

    I was looking at recumbent trikes on the Greenspeed website
    (http://www.greenspeed.com.au/NewGSweb/web-content/usa/homeusa.html) and I
    noticed that most of the bikes have the two wheels in the front and one in
    the rear.

    I really have no problem with that. But I do have one question:
    How do you steer?

    Regards,
    Cully_J

  2. Cully_J said:

    Hello all,

    I'm new to the recumbent community. I'm absolutely, positvely clueless about
    certain - and probably straight forward - things.

    I was looking at recumbent trikes on the Greenspeed website
    (http://www.greenspeed.com.au/NewGSweb/web-content/usa/homeusa.html) and I
    noticed that most of the bikes have the two wheels in the front and one in
    the rear.

    I really have no problem with that. But I do have one question:
    How do you steer?

    Regards,
    Cully_J

    With the handlebars!

    OK, OK- that was a little too obvious. On Greenspeeds, the handlebars
    pivot on a frame fitting, and there are linkage rods that connect the
    handlebars to the kingpins that hold the front wheels. In reality, the
    setup is very similar to almost every automobile built since time
    began.

    Not all trikes are like this, but this'll get you started. If you want
    to learn more, this page should provide you with many clues:
    http://www.eland.org.uk/steer_intro.html

    Jeff

  3. At this point I've owned four trikes (I still have two of them) and I've
    test ridden at least 6 others. The design of the tadpole steering (two
    wheels in front, one in back) is fairly simple yet there is quite a bit of
    variety in implementation. If you are considering a purchase, test rides are
    certainly required. Examples:

    The Deltas (two wheels in back) tend to steer like ordinary bikes although
    you still have the Under Seat or Above Seat choice.

    Tadpoles have a bit more variety. When I test rode the Catrike I crossed it
    off my list immediately because I didn't like the feel of the steering. I
    understand that they have re-designed their steering for 2005 so I might
    feel differently now.

    Greenspeed and WizWheelz have more conventional tadpole steering.

    There are a few trikes that have a stick for steering. WindCheetah is the
    most famous. The stick is very responsive. On my first ride in a parking lot
    at low speeds I had the WindCheetah up on two wheels. That never happened in
    real riding.

    Tricruiser has "one sided" steering as standard with more conventional "twin
    stick" steering as an option. I've never ridden one with single stick
    steering. I am taking a friend of mine to look at a single stick model,
    however. He has a hand injury from a car accident that is not going to
    improve. The only option he has for cycling is to find something that he can
    completely control from one side. The Tricruiser with a single stick, disc
    brakes (front left and right controlled by a single brake lever), and a
    Rohloff Speedhub should be able to put steering, braking, and transmission
    all on one side of the trike. We'll see if it works for him.

    The sidewinder has front wheel drive and rear wheel steering. The feel is
    quite strange compared to everything else. I'd be afraid to ride this trike
    anywhere where you encounter high speed although the video on the website of
    the rider doing tight 360's is fun to watch. I wouldn't do it myself,
    however.

    So your simple question doesn't have quite the simple answer that you might
    expect. If your serious about getting a trike you've got to test ride them.

    Jeff

  4. Jeff Grippe said:

    The Deltas (two wheels in back) tend to steer like ordinary bikes

    Objection! ;-)

    IME any trike[1] (including uprights) doesn't steer like an ordinary
    bike, because you have to actively move the steering to a far greater
    extent. On a bike you soon get used to steering by leaning the bike and
    using the inherert instability of a two wheel design to your advantage.
    Can't do that on the trike, so the go left you steer the bars left,
    rather than just lean the way you want to go.

    This can be *very* embarrassing on one's first go on a trike, as it
    /should/ be easier! I spent the first 100m on a Kettwiesel crashing
    into the kerb because I couldn't adjust for the camber and right wheel
    drive just by body position like I do quite unconsciously on a bike.

    Pete.

    [1] some cunning lean-to-steer designs may well be exceptions
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

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