shelled nuts

veggiegirl said:

Hi,

I have been reading this newsgroup for a while, but never posted
anything. Now I have a couple of questions, that I hope somebody will
have an informed answer to.

I want to eat about 60 grams/2 ounces of nuts each day.

Personally I would strongly recommend against eating that many nuts.
Nuts are not a food one should eat every day. I found that even when I
shell the nuts and soak overnight (to remove anti-nutrients like enzyme
inhibitors) cause more health problems then benefits. Most nuts are high
in polyunsaturated fatty acids. High intake of such fats have been
repeatedly linked with cancer, heart and inflammatory diseases.

Quoted message said:

I have learned
that you should always buy nuts unshelled and shell them yourself,
because shelled nuts are already rancid in the store. Do you know if
this is really necessary? I would buy packaged nuts, not the ones that
lay in plastic boxes in the open air all day.

Sometimes one can come across organic and really fresh looking nuts
which have been recently packaged, such nuts should be fine. Look for
the date.

Quoted message said:

(I know shelling nuts is not that much work, but if I take everything:
washing, cutting and preparing all the vegetables, fruits and legumes I
eat, it almost feels like a day job to prepare my food)

I used to have the same problem - healthy eating takes more time then
what one may be used to. Instead of fighting it, I decided to make good
use of it. Now, most of the time when I prepare and eat food I consider
it a meditation or a relaxing break. A calming state during which one is
preparing healthy foods that are good for the body.

Quoted message said:

I have another question about roasted nuts. No doubt oil roasted nuts
are bad, because of the refined vegetable oils used, and the high
temperature. But how bad are dry roasted nuts, like pistachio's? I think
I cannot even buy raw walnuts here, even the ones that you buy in the
shell appear to be roasted (sometimes they are black).

Roasting is usually done at high temperatures which easily damages the
highly unstable polyunsaturated fats.

Quoted message said:

Last question: if roasting is so bad because it alters the fats, is
boiling almonds in order to blanch them also a no-no?

One of the reasons one is roasting, is to inactivate anti-nutrients in
nuts that would be harmful to humans. The same can be achieved through
soaking or sprouting. I don't know if boiling is a high enough
temperature(100C) to do that.

If you really want to eat nuts, always soak them overnight and do not
eat more then a few small hand fulls a week when they are in season. Pay
attention to any signs of inflammation or small aches and pains that my
suddenly appear after you started eating them. If you get any problems,
I would drop the nuts immediately.

--
Dawid Michalczyk
http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:21:49 +0200, Dawid Michalczyk <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

veggiegirl said:

Hi,

I have been reading this newsgroup for a while, but never posted
anything. Now I have a couple of questions, that I hope somebody will
have an informed answer to.

I want to eat about 60 grams/2 ounces of nuts each day.

Personally I would strongly recommend against eating that many nuts.
Nuts are not a food one should eat every day. I found that even when I
shell the nuts and soak overnight (to remove anti-nutrients like enzyme
inhibitors) cause more health problems then benefits. Most nuts are high
in polyunsaturated fatty acids. High intake of such fats have been
repeatedly linked with cancer, heart and inflammatory diseases.

Dr. Walter Willett, of the Harvard Nutrition study, would disagree
with you:

"Some fats are good for you, and it is important to include these good fats
in your diet." Specifically, eating unsaturated fats — found in most
vegetable oils, nuts and fatty fish — instead of saturated fats such as
butter and animal fats can reduce low-density lipoproteins ("bad"
cholesterol) and help to protect against coronary heart disease, erratic
heartbeats and blood clots. Trans-fatty acids, found in many hard
margarines and baked goods containing partially hydrogenated vegetable
oils, should be avoided because they increase the risk of heart disease.
Research connects excess weight, not overall fat consumption, to some forms
of cancer, and people on low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets tend to regain
the weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have learned
that you should always buy nuts unshelled and shell them yourself,
because shelled nuts are already rancid in the store. Do you know if
this is really necessary? I would buy packaged nuts, not the ones that
lay in plastic boxes in the open air all day.

Sometimes one can come across organic and really fresh looking nuts
which have been recently packaged, such nuts should be fine. Look for
the date.

Quoted message said:

(I know shelling nuts is not that much work, but if I take everything:
washing, cutting and preparing all the vegetables, fruits and legumes I
eat, it almost feels like a day job to prepare my food)

I used to have the same problem - healthy eating takes more time then
what one may be used to. Instead of fighting it, I decided to make good
use of it. Now, most of the time when I prepare and eat food I consider
it a meditation or a relaxing break. A calming state during which one is
preparing healthy foods that are good for the body.

Quoted message said:

I have another question about roasted nuts. No doubt oil roasted nuts
are bad, because of the refined vegetable oils used, and the high
temperature. But how bad are dry roasted nuts, like pistachio's? I think
I cannot even buy raw walnuts here, even the ones that you buy in the
shell appear to be roasted (sometimes they are black).

Roasting is usually done at high temperatures which easily damages the
highly unstable polyunsaturated fats.

Quoted message said:

Last question: if roasting is so bad because it alters the fats, is
boiling almonds in order to blanch them also a no-no?

One of the reasons one is roasting, is to inactivate anti-nutrients in
nuts that would be harmful to humans. The same can be achieved through
soaking or sprouting. I don't know if boiling is a high enough
temperature(100C) to do that.

If you really want to eat nuts, always soak them overnight and do not
eat more then a few small hand fulls a week when they are in season. Pay
attention to any signs of inflammation or small aches and pains that my
suddenly appear after you started eating them. If you get any problems,
I would drop the nuts immediately.

Hi Dawid,

Thanks for your reply,

Quoted message said:

Personally I would strongly recommend against eating that many nuts.
Nuts are not a food one should eat every day. I found that even when I
shell the nuts and soak overnight (to remove anti-nutrients like enzyme
inhibitors) cause more health problems then benefits. Most nuts are high
in polyunsaturated fatty acids. High intake of such fats have been
repeatedly linked with cancer, heart and inflammatory diseases.

Nuts and seeds are my primary source of fat, and an important source of
protein. I do not eat vegetable oils or meat. I do eat a teaspoon of
ground flax seed a day, and make sure to include walnuts, so I thought
my omega 3/6 ratio would not be that bad.

You are probably right that high intake of pufa's is linked with all
kinds of diseases, but I think there is a huge difference between
consuming corn/sunflower oil on the one hand, and walnuts/almonds on the
other.

I recently started a vegan diet. I am rather active and need some high
calorie low sugar (I tend to eat too much dried fruit) foods in my diet.
Are there any other foods you suggest? Meat and cheese eating has been
linked with all kinds of diseases as well (and I'd rather not eat them
for other reasons).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(I know shelling nuts is not that much work, but if I take everything:
washing, cutting and preparing all the vegetables, fruits and legumes I
eat, it almost feels like a day job to prepare my food)

I used to have the same problem - healthy eating takes more time then
what one may be used to. Instead of fighting it, I decided to make good
use of it. Now, most of the time when I prepare and eat food I consider
it a meditation or a relaxing break. A calming state during which one is
preparing healthy foods that are good for the body.

You probably do not have small children 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have another question about roasted nuts. No doubt oil roasted nuts
are bad, because of the refined vegetable oils used, and the high
temperature. But how bad are dry roasted nuts, like pistachio's? I think
I cannot even buy raw walnuts here, even the ones that you buy in the
shell appear to be roasted (sometimes they are black).

Roasting is usually done at high temperatures which easily damages the
highly unstable polyunsaturated fats.

I often hear that, but I wonder if there is any research to back that
up. I was surprised that roasting flax seed does not seem to destableize
the ALA (the most unstable oil of all). (source:
http://www.flaxcouncil.ca/pdf/stor.pdf ). Maybe the anti-oxidants in the
seeds protect the oil? Which would explain why it still is a bad idea to
heat extracted vegetable oils.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Last question: if roasting is so bad because it alters the fats, is
boiling almonds in order to blanch them also a no-no?

One of the reasons one is roasting, is to inactivate anti-nutrients in
nuts that would be harmful to humans. The same can be achieved through
soaking or sprouting. I don't know if boiling is a high enough
temperature(100C) to do that.

You are right 100C is not that high, nuts are probably roasted at 180C.

Quoted message said:

If you really want to eat nuts, always soak them overnight and do not
eat more then a few small hand fulls a week when they are in season. Pay
attention to any signs of inflammation or small aches and pains that my
suddenly appear after you started eating them. If you get any problems,
I would drop the nuts immediately.

Thanks for the advice. I think I can tolerate nuts fine, I never noticed
any problems except that it is so easy to overeat them.

veggiegirl.

veggiegirl said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(I know shelling nuts is not that much work, but if I take everything:
washing, cutting and preparing all the vegetables, fruits and legumes I
eat, it almost feels like a day job to prepare my food)

Well, for walnuts this would make it easier:
http://members.aol.com/mhenkassoc/nnga/adsqpage.htm#ad1

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I cannot even buy raw walnuts here,

You can't buy them in a health food store? I can get organic raw ones.
Shelled. The supplier keeps them in cold storage. My HFS does not, but they
go through a 25# box in a week or two. I keep them in the freezer, and then
the refrigerator.

Quoted message said:

even the ones that you buy in the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

shell appear to be roasted (sometimes they are black).

Walnuts are black.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Last question: if roasting is so bad because it alters the fats, is
boiling almonds in order to blanch them also a no-no?

The problem with almonds is they are high in Omega 6. Walnuts have more
Omega 3 and a better 3/6 ratio.

Quoted message said:

Thanks for the advice. I think I can tolerate nuts fine, I never noticed
any problems except that it is so easy to overeat them.

I see no reason why you can't eat 2 ounces a day. Or even more if you want.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:05:55 +0200, veggiegirl wrote in
<news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

Quoted message said:

I think I can tolerate nuts fine, I never noticed
any problems

Neither did I, with (raw, unroasted) walnuts, almonds, pinenuts and
hazelnuts. I also like eating them in the morning muesli, for breakfast.

--
Enrico C

veggiegirl said:

Hi Dawid,

Thanks for your reply,

Quoted message said:

Personally I would strongly recommend against eating that many nuts.
Nuts are not a food one should eat every day. I found that even when I
shell the nuts and soak overnight (to remove anti-nutrients like enzyme
inhibitors) cause more health problems then benefits. Most nuts are high
in polyunsaturated fatty acids. High intake of such fats have been
repeatedly linked with cancer, heart and inflammatory diseases.

Nuts and seeds are my primary source of fat, and an important source of
protein. I do not eat vegetable oils or meat. I do eat a teaspoon of
ground flax seed a day, and make sure to include walnuts, so I thought
my omega 3/6 ratio would not be that bad.

You are probably right that high intake of pufa's is linked with all
kinds of diseases, but I think there is a huge difference between
consuming corn/sunflower oil on the one hand, and walnuts/almonds on the
other.

I recently started a vegan diet. I am rather active and need some high
calorie low sugar (I tend to eat too much dried fruit) foods in my diet.
Are there any other foods you suggest? Meat and cheese eating has been
linked with all kinds of diseases as well (and I'd rather not eat them
for other reasons).

Speaking from personal experience I don't think a vegetarian diet
promotes human health. Perhaps the most convincing argument against it
is that there are/were no known peoples in the world who were
vegetarians. Also, the longest living people in the world, for example,
the Okinawans, eat meat.

A few links that may help you save your health:
http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html
http://www.beyondveg.com/ (read what long, long time vegetarians have to
say about it)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(I know shelling nuts is not that much work, but if I take everything:
washing, cutting and preparing all the vegetables, fruits and legumes I
eat, it almost feels like a day job to prepare my food)

I used to have the same problem - healthy eating takes more time then
what one may be used to. Instead of fighting it, I decided to make good
use of it. Now, most of the time when I prepare and eat food I consider
it a meditation or a relaxing break. A calming state during which one is
preparing healthy foods that are good for the body.

You probably do not have small children 🙂

I don't 🙂 But there is always a way out of every situation. I'm sure
you can find one too.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have another question about roasted nuts. No doubt oil roasted nuts
are bad, because of the refined vegetable oils used, and the high
temperature. But how bad are dry roasted nuts, like pistachio's? I think
I cannot even buy raw walnuts here, even the ones that you buy in the
shell appear to be roasted (sometimes they are black).

Roasting is usually done at high temperatures which easily damages the
highly unstable polyunsaturated fats.

I often hear that, but I wonder if there is any research to back that
up. I was surprised that roasting flax seed does not seem to destableize
the ALA (the most unstable oil of all). (source:
http://www.flaxcouncil.ca/pdf/stor.pdf ). Maybe the anti-oxidants in the
seeds protect the oil? Which would explain why it still is a bad idea to
heat extracted vegetable oils.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Last question: if roasting is so bad because it alters the fats, is
boiling almonds in order to blanch them also a no-no?

One of the reasons one is roasting, is to inactivate anti-nutrients in
nuts that would be harmful to humans. The same can be achieved through
soaking or sprouting. I don't know if boiling is a high enough
temperature(100C) to do that.

You are right 100C is not that high, nuts are probably roasted at 180C.

Quoted message said:

If you really want to eat nuts, always soak them overnight and do not
eat more then a few small hand fulls a week when they are in season. Pay
attention to any signs of inflammation or small aches and pains that my
suddenly appear after you started eating them. If you get any problems,
I would drop the nuts immediately.

Thanks for the advice. I think I can tolerate nuts fine, I never noticed
any problems except that it is so easy to overeat them.

--
Dawid Michalczyk
http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

veggiegirl said:

You are probably right that high intake of pufa's is linked with all
kinds of diseases, but I think there is a huge difference between
consuming corn/sunflower oil on the one hand, and walnuts/almonds on the
other.

True. Also it's consuming damaged PUFA that's the real problem rather
than simply how much. Heating oils provides a large surface area for
oxygen attack and lots of energy for it to happen. In contrast, a solid
nut has little oxygen entry and if unheated, little damage.

Quoted message said:

I recently started a vegan diet. I am rather active and need some high
calorie low sugar (I tend to eat too much dried fruit) foods in my diet.
Are there any other foods you suggest? Meat and cheese eating has been
linked with all kinds of diseases as well (and I'd rather not eat them
for other reasons).

Greek-style yoghurt?

MattLB

This is the most ludicrous thing I think I've ever read in a news group
post.

Don't listen to this guy veggie girl. And by all means, DON'T SOAK YOUR
NUTS. That is really dumb!

Look at the date stamp on the nuts for freshness. They are not all rancid.
In fact, I don't think that has ever happened to me. You can smell them if
they are. Most supermarkets now provide them in the produce section wrapped
and date stamped. Even old nuts in the shell can be old and rancid.

Walnuts and almonds (raw) are the two best nuts one can eat for essential
nutrients other than protein which they all have.

Rachel

"Dawid Michalczyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| veggiegirl wrote:
| > Hi,
| >
| > I have been reading this newsgroup for a while, but never posted
| > anything. Now I have a couple of questions, that I hope somebody will
| > have an informed answer to.
| >
| > I want to eat about 60 grams/2 ounces of nuts each day.
|
| Personally I would strongly recommend against eating that many nuts.
| Nuts are not a food one should eat every day. I found that even when I
| shell the nuts and soak overnight (to remove anti-nutrients like enzyme
| inhibitors) cause more health problems then benefits. Most nuts are high
| in polyunsaturated fatty acids. High intake of such fats have been
| repeatedly linked with cancer, heart and inflammatory diseases.
|
| > I have learned
| > that you should always buy nuts unshelled and shell them yourself,
| > because shelled nuts are already rancid in the store. Do you know if
| > this is really necessary? I would buy packaged nuts, not the ones that
| > lay in plastic boxes in the open air all day.
|
| Sometimes one can come across organic and really fresh looking nuts
| which have been recently packaged, such nuts should be fine. Look for
| the date.
|
| > (I know shelling nuts is not that much work, but if I take everything:
| > washing, cutting and preparing all the vegetables, fruits and legumes I
| > eat, it almost feels like a day job to prepare my food)
|
| I used to have the same problem - healthy eating takes more time then
| what one may be used to. Instead of fighting it, I decided to make good
| use of it. Now, most of the time when I prepare and eat food I consider
| it a meditation or a relaxing break. A calming state during which one is
| preparing healthy foods that are good for the body.
|
| > I have another question about roasted nuts. No doubt oil roasted nuts
| > are bad, because of the refined vegetable oils used, and the high
| > temperature. But how bad are dry roasted nuts, like pistachio's? I think
| > I cannot even buy raw walnuts here, even the ones that you buy in the
| > shell appear to be roasted (sometimes they are black).
|
| Roasting is usually done at high temperatures which easily damages the
| highly unstable polyunsaturated fats.
|
| > Last question: if roasting is so bad because it alters the fats, is
| > boiling almonds in order to blanch them also a no-no?
|
| One of the reasons one is roasting, is to inactivate anti-nutrients in
| nuts that would be harmful to humans. The same can be achieved through
| soaking or sprouting. I don't know if boiling is a high enough
| temperature(100C) to do that.
|
| If you really want to eat nuts, always soak them overnight and do not
| eat more then a few small hand fulls a week when they are in season. Pay
| attention to any signs of inflammation or small aches and pains that my
| suddenly appear after you started eating them. If you get any problems,
| I would drop the nuts immediately.
|
| --
| Dawid Michalczyk
| http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

Rachel said:

Don't listen to this guy veggie girl. And by all means, DON'T SOAK YOUR
NUTS. That is really dumb!

Soaking will reduce any phytic acid in the nuts. Though I don't think of
nuts as being that high in phytic acid to start with. Generally one finds
it in the bran layer of a seed.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Hi Dawid,

Quoted message said:

Speaking from personal experience I don't think a vegetarian diet
promotes human health. Perhaps the most convincing argument against it
is that there are/were no known peoples in the world who were
vegetarians.

Well, there were the chinese Buddhists.

Quoted message said:

Also, the longest living people in the world, for example,
the Okinawans, eat meat.

But very little.
I understand that without access to the benefits of our modern society,
such as vitamin B12 pills, veganism would be more difficult (it would
involve growing your own vegetables and using your own feces as manure).
However, I think that argument holds little value, since without our
modern society the oceans would be much cleaner, and the fish would be
much healthier to eat, for example.

Quoted message said:

A few links that may help you save your health:
http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html

Ugh. I am sorry. I read that article years ago, and thought it was
rubbish then.
The first thing that springs to mind is that the women around whom the
argument is built is NOT a vegetarian! If she is 'nearly' a vegetarian,
the Okinawas you mentioned earlier are too. They seem to do pretty well,
as you said.

Quoted message said:

http://www.beyondveg.com/ (read what long, long time vegetarians have to
say about it)

That site is much, much better than the Weston A. Price sites, but I
find it more anti-fad-diets (such as natural hygiene and all raw diets)
than anti-vegetarianism per se. The main 'arguments' I learned there were:
1. It's not natural. That does not impress me much, I think humans adapt
pretty well, and we live in a totally unnatural environment anyway.
2. Some people do not feel well on a natural hygiene style vegan diet.
They should change their diet.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I used to have the same problem - healthy eating takes more time then
what one may be used to. Instead of fighting it, I decided to make good
use of it. Now, most of the time when I prepare and eat food I consider
it a meditation or a relaxing break. A calming state during which one is
preparing healthy foods that are good for the body.

You probably do not have small children 🙂

I don't 🙂 But there is always a way out of every situation. I'm sure
you can find one too.

I am sure I'll get used to it, but "a calming state during which one is
preparing healthy foods" seems like very far away at the moment.

veggiegirl

Rachel said:

This is the most ludicrous thing I think I've ever read in a news group
post.

Don't listen to this guy veggie girl. And by all means, DON'T SOAK YOUR
NUTS. That is really dumb!

Perhaps you should do a search on "antinutrients" and "enzyme inhibitors".

Here is what Stephen Byrnes, PhD writes about soaking nuts:

"As mentioned earlier, nuts have high amounts of enzyme inhibitors and
phytates that should be broken down before consuming them. How does one
do this? By soaking the nuts in salted water for 6-8 hours"

source: http://www.powerhealth.net/article_nuts.htm

--
Dawid Michalczyk
http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

veggiegirl said:

Hi Dawid,

Quoted message said:

Speaking from personal experience I don't think a vegetarian diet
promotes human health. Perhaps the most convincing argument against it
is that there are/were no known peoples in the world who were
vegetarians.

Well, there were the chinese Buddhists.

Can you point me to resources?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Also, the longest living people in the world, for example,
the Okinawans, eat meat.

But very little.

According to gerontologist Kazuhiko Taira, Okinawans eat 100 grams each
of pork and fish each day. I would not call that very little meat.

--
Dawid Michalczyk
http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

Dawid Michalczyk said:

veggiegirl wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Also, the longest living people in the world, for example,
the Okinawans, eat meat.

But very little.

According to gerontologist Kazuhiko Taira, Okinawans eat 100 grams each
of pork and fish each day. I would not call that very little meat.

Yes. This excerpt comes from:
http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/food_in_china.html

And what do Okinawans eat? The main meat of the diet is pork, and not the
lean cuts only. Okinawan cuisine, according to gerontologist Kazuhiko
Taira, "is very healthy—and very, very greasy," in a 1996 article that
appeared in Health Magazine.19 And the whole pig is eaten—everything from
"tails to nails." Local menus offer boiled pigs feet, entrail soup and
shredded ears. Pork is cooked in a mixture of soy sauce, ginger, kelp and
small amounts of sugar, then sliced and chopped up for stir fry dishes.
Okinawans eat about 100 grams of meat per day—compared to 70 in Japan and
just over 20 in China—and at least an equal amount of fish, for a total of
about 200 grams per day, compared to 280 grams per person per day of meat
and fish in America. Lard—not vegetable oil—is used in cooking.

19. Deborah Franklyn, "Take a Lesson from the People of Okinawa," Health,
September 1996, pp 57-63

And you can find just about anything doing a search on anything on the
internet, any cockamambie idea you can think of.

ITS DUMB. Use your common sense.

You believe EVERYTHING you read??? Science changes their mind on everything.
Take E....No, don't take E.... A's good ,.. no A's bad.... Milk is good for
you.... No milk may be bad for you..... C is best anti oxidant, no C may
cause cancer..... Listen to them and you'll get whiplash !

Nuts were meant to be enjoyed AS IS and have been four thousands of years.

"Dawid Michalczyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| Rachel wrote:
| > This is the most ludicrous thing I think I've ever read in a news group
| > post.
| >
| > Don't listen to this guy veggie girl. And by all means, DON'T SOAK YOUR
| > NUTS. That is really dumb!
|
| Perhaps you should do a search on "antinutrients" and "enzyme inhibitors".
|
| Here is what Stephen Byrnes, PhD writes about soaking nuts:
|
| "As mentioned earlier, nuts have high amounts of enzyme inhibitors and
| phytates that should be broken down before consuming them. How does one
| do this? By soaking the nuts in salted water for 6-8 hours"
|
| source: http://www.powerhealth.net/article_nuts.htm
|
| --
| Dawid Michalczyk
| http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

"ssss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

And you can find just about anything doing a search on anything on the
internet, any cockamambie idea you can think of.

ITS DUMB. Use your common sense.

You believe EVERYTHING you read??? Science changes their mind on
everything.

Newton's laws of motion seem quite stable--
(unless you're traveling at a speed nearly as
fast as the speed of light, or you're a subatomic
particle).

Quoted message said:

Take E....No, don't take E.... A's good ,.. no A's bad.... Milk is good
for
you.... No milk may be bad for you..... C is best anti oxidant, no C may
cause cancer..... Listen to them and you'll get whiplash !

Be sure you have a head rest to avoid it.

Quoted message said:

Nuts were meant to be enjoyed

Who meant that?

Quoted message said:

AS IS and have been four thousands of years.

And before that? Could Paleolithic man enjoy them?
Or do you think the earth is only 4 thousand years old?

GWC

Quoted message said:

"Dawid Michalczyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
| Rachel wrote:
| > This is the most ludicrous thing I think I've ever read in a news
group
| > post.
| >
| > Don't listen to this guy veggie girl. And by all means, DON'T SOAK
YOUR
| > NUTS. That is really dumb!
|
| Perhaps you should do a search on "antinutrients" and "enzyme
inhibitors".
|
| Here is what Stephen Byrnes, PhD writes about soaking nuts:
|
| "As mentioned earlier, nuts have high amounts of enzyme inhibitors and
| phytates that should be broken down before consuming them. How does one
| do this? By soaking the nuts in salted water for 6-8 hours"
|
| source: http://www.powerhealth.net/article_nuts.htm
|
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| Dawid Michalczyk
| http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

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And you can find just about anything doing a search on anything on the
internet, any cockamambie idea you can think of.

ITS DUMB. Use your common sense.

You believe EVERYTHING you read??? Science changes their mind on

everything.

Quoted message said:

Take E....No, don't take E.... A's good ,.. no A's bad.... Milk is good

for

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you.... No milk may be bad for you..... C is best anti oxidant, no C may
cause cancer..... Listen to them and you'll get whiplash !

Nuts were meant to be enjoyed AS IS and have been four thousands of

years.

Quoted message said:

WOW, your ignorance of science is profound. Even for the bunch than hangs
out at this group, you're a step down. Your mom must be proud of you.

--

Dr. Dickie
"Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream."
-- Wallace Stevens