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  1. First year watching this wonderful event and a burning question: is
    Discovery the only team?

    I mean I see a lot of riders wearing similar kit but they don't seem to
    be working for each other in the same way that the Disco boys are
    working for Lance. What hope does Ulli have with Kloden and Vino doing
    their own thing?

    😕
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    Cheers | ~~ __@
    Euan | ~~ _-\<,
    Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

  2. “All for one, & every man for himself!”

    The hills are a hard place to ask for a big effort from your team. Disco boys are well drilled/skilled & seem to lay down their last banana for the tall texan.

  3. Yeah - it seems that there is no ambiguity at all with the Disco team :
    we are riding for Lance, nothing else matters...

    Whereas with, say, T-mobile - they seem to be hdging their bets a bit.
    Three GC possibles, with Ullrich as the most likely. And so Vino, and
    occasionaly Kloden, muck about and do their own thing.

    Contrast that with Salvodelli in Disco - this year's Giro winner who
    has fully taken on the role of Lance's helper...

    Absent Husband (who really, really needs a domestique on his
    commutes...)

  4. Absent Husband said:

    Yeah - it seems that there is no ambiguity at all with the Disco team :
    we are riding for Lance, nothing else matters...

    Whereas with, say, T-mobile - they seem to be hdging their bets a bit.
    Three GC possibles, with Ullrich as the most likely. And so Vino, and
    occasionaly Kloden, muck about and do their own thing.

    Contrast that with Salvodelli in Disco - this year's Giro winner who
    has fully taken on the role of Lance's helper...

    Absent Husband (who really, really needs a domestique on his
    commutes...)

    This reminds me of a discussion we were having the other day about what you could do if you were on serious CEO money, say 1 million plus a year. I'd be paying a development squad of young riders to be my train whenever I rode!

  5. Absent Husband said:


    Yeah - it seems that there is no ambiguity at all with the Disco team :
    we are riding for Lance, nothing else matters...

    Whereas with, say, T-mobile - they seem to be hdging their bets a bit.
    Three GC possibles, with Ullrich as the most likely. And so Vino, and
    occasionaly Kloden, muck about and do their own thing.

    Contrast that with Salvodelli in Disco - this year's Giro winner who
    has fully taken on the role of Lance's helper...

    Absent Husband (who really, really needs a domestique on his
    commutes...)

    What I'm not good enough?

    Tam

  6. PiledHigher said:

    This reminds me of a discussion we were having the other day about what you could do if you were on serious CEO money, say 1 million plus a year. I'd be paying a development squad of young riders to be my train whenever I rode!

    To earn that money, as CEO etc, you'd get bugger all time to ride & really need the tow.

    Hmmm.. retire early, ride alot...... could have merit.

  7. quote='Tamyka Bell'Absent Husband said:


    Yeah - it seems that there is no ambiguity at all with the Disco team :
    we are riding for Lance, nothing else matters...

    Whereas with, say, T-mobile - they seem to be hdging their bets a bit.
    Three GC possibles, with Ullrich as the most likely. And so Vino, and
    occasionaly Kloden, muck about and do their own thing.

    Contrast that with Salvodelli in Disco - this year's Giro winner who
    has fully taken on the role of Lance's helper...

    Absent Husband (who really, really needs a domestique on his
    commutes...)

    What I'm not good enough?

    Tam[/QUOTE]

    He said domestique not dominatrix! 🙂 Domestiques work *for* you not make you their climbing [censored]!

  8. quote='Tamyka Bell'Absent Husband said:


    Yeah - it seems that there is no ambiguity at all with the Disco team :
    we are riding for Lance, nothing else matters...

    Whereas with, say, T-mobile - they seem to be hdging their bets a bit.
    Three GC possibles, with Ullrich as the most likely. And so Vino, and
    occasionaly Kloden, muck about and do their own thing.

    Contrast that with Salvodelli in Disco - this year's Giro winner who
    has fully taken on the role of Lance's helper...

    Absent Husband (who really, really needs a domestique on his
    commutes...)

    What I'm not good enough?

    Tam[/QUOTE]

    I've heard that you are good to draft behind!*

    * Based on self reported swept volume.

  9. PiledHigher said:


    Tamyka Bell said:
    Absent Husband said:


    Yeah - it seems that there is no ambiguity at all with the Disco team


    :

    Quoted message said:

    we are riding for Lance, nothing else matters...

    Whereas with, say, T-mobile - they seem to be hdging their bets a


    bit.

    Quoted message said:

    Three GC possibles, with Ullrich as the most likely. And so Vino,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    occasionaly Kloden, muck about and do their own thing.

    Contrast that with Salvodelli in Disco - this year's Giro winner who
    has fully taken on the role of Lance's helper...

    Absent Husband (who really, really needs a domestique on his
    commutes...)

    What I'm not good enough?

    Tam

    I've heard that you are good to draft behind!

    --
    PiledHigher

    oi!

    Tam

  10. "adam85" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:


    Tamyka Bell said:


    What I'm not good enough?


    He said domestique not dominatrix! 🙂 Domestiques work *for* you not
    make you their climbing [censored]!

    ROLF - Post of the Week!!

    Parbs

  11. Euan said:

    First year watching this wonderful event and a burning question: is
    Discovery the only team?

    T-mobile did an awesome job chasing down Vinocurov!

  12. Carl Brewer said:


    Euan said:

    First year watching this wonderful event and a burning question: is
    Discovery the only team?

    T-mobile did an awesome job chasing down Vinocurov!

    The commentary on that was fantastic. "What are they doing?" "That's
    just appalling!" blah blah blah and "Vinokourov is going to change teams
    ASAP" etc...

    Tam

  13. Tamyka Bell schrieb:

    Quoted message said:
    Carl Brewer said:
    Euan said:

    First year watching this wonderful event and a burning question: is
    Discovery the only team?

    T-mobile did an awesome job chasing down Vinocurov!

    The commentary on that was fantastic. "What are they doing?" "That's
    just appalling!" blah blah blah and "Vinokourov is going to change teams
    ASAP" etc...

    Offical explanation (on german TV, citing t-mobile coach):
    Vinokurow misunderstood the team order. He was supposed to take the lead
    (and maybe increase speed a bit). He thought he was allowed/asked for an
    attack.

    jcw

  14. Jan-Christoph Westermann said:


    Offical explanation (on german TV, citing t-mobile coach):
    Vinokurow misunderstood the team order. He was supposed to take the lead (and maybe increase speed a bit). He thought he was allowed/asked for an attack.

    jcw

    IE team order come sover radio...

    "Ride yourself into zee grownd, yoo khazak peasant! Vee vill pull hour big tank up zee heall and invade your miniscule little paddock of a country"

    F"dont mention the war"Dutch

  15. flyingdutch said:


    F"dont mention the war"Dutch

    Why? Did they steal your grandma's bicycle?

  16. PiledHigher said:

    Why? Did they steal your grandma's bicycle?

    actually Stu, they burnt down her house (and other [censored] not appropriate for here). sadly, that's true...
    my dad spent the war as a teenager doin [censored] with the dutch underground, but wont talk about it much

    i have a foto of her on a bike that looks no different to the stuff cruisin around Amsterdam now

    well, that killed the mood!

    "and now for something completely different!..."

  17. flyingdutch said:

    actually Stu, they burnt down her house (and other [censored] not appropriate for here). sadly, that's true...
    my dad spent the war as a teenager doin [censored] with the dutch underground, but wont talk about it much

    i have a foto of her on a bike that looks no different to the stuff cruisin around Amsterdam now

    well, that killed the mood!

    "and now for something completely different!..."


    That reminds me of when I was in the Falklands. it was '99, 17 years after the conflict. I was in C&W doing some work and got to talking with one of the techs there who's an Islander.

    He's been to the UK and said he hated his one visit to a cinema there. I asked him why and he said it brought back bad memories of his dad getting marched out the house at gunpoint by men with big guns and lots of grenades.

    That pulled me up a bit short.
    --
    Cheers
    Euan

  18. EuanB said:

    That reminds me of when I was in the Falklands. it was '99, 17 years after the conflict. I was in C&W doing some work and got to talking with one of the techs there who's an Islander.

    He's been to the UK and said he hated his one visit to a cinema there. I asked him why and he said it brought back bad memories of his dad getting marched out the house at gunpoint by men with big guns and lots of grenades.

    That pulled me up a bit short.
    --
    Cheers
    Euan

    were they UK or Argie?

  19. flyingdutch said:

    were they UK or Argie?


    By they I'm assuming you mean men with big guns. They were Argentinians.
    --
    Cheers
    Euan

  20. flyingdutch schrieb:

    Quoted message said:

    "and now for something completely different!..."

    Dutch campervans on German highways?

    jcw

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