milk & disease

Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again.

Let's face it. It is still garbage for human digestion, poor nutrient
absoption and seems to need all the artificial processes and ingredients
added to it to make it salable to the ignorant majority.

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> Topic: cow's milk & disease
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> If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease

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> (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles

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> cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

So what?

By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule
minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks

milk

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from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.

cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.

--Rich

And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer
actually
"milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to
be milk.

Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
shelf life measured in days.

The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

TC

Pizza Girl. said:

Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again.

Yes, how many cows' milk drinkers would still drink cows' milk if
left at room temperature for several days? But most folks could still
drink bottled water if left at room temperature for several days.

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Let's face it. It is still garbage for human digestion, poor nutrient
absoption and seems to need all the artificial processes and ingredients
added to it to make it salable to the ignorant majority.

But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows'
milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar addict
that too much sugar is bad for their human body?

You cannot. Their brains are screwed up from all the casein (rhymes with
insane)

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But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows'
milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar

addict

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that too much sugar is bad for their human body?

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George Lagergren said:

Pizza Girl. said:

Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again.

Yes, how many cows' milk drinkers would still drink cows' milk if
left at room temperature for several days? But most folks could still
drink bottled water if left at room temperature for several days.

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Let's face it. It is still garbage for human digestion, poor nutrient
absoption and seems to need all the artificial processes and ingredients
added to it to make it salable to the ignorant majority.

But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows'
milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar addict
that too much sugar is bad for their human body?

How does one convince the idiot George that just because he has
problems with dairy, not everyone does?

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns."
-- Steve Martin

David Wright said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

George Lagergren said:

Pizza Girl. said:

Most hate warm milk though and refrigereation is human intervention again.

Yes, how many cows' milk drinkers would still drink cows' milk if
left at room temperature for several days? But most folks could still
drink bottled water if left at room temperature for several days.

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Let's face it. It is still garbage for human digestion, poor nutrient
absoption and seems to need all the artificial processes and ingredients
added to it to make it salable to the ignorant majority.

But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows'
milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar addict
that too much sugar is bad for their human body?

How does one convince the idiot George that just because he has
problems with dairy, not everyone does?

George doesn't know he has problems with dairy; he gave up dairy
because:

"That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I
finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk.
I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his early 20s
because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's milk."

Apparently, he has never tried drinking it since, and consequently has
no idea whether his problems would return if he did, whether their
cessation was coincidental, or whether it was due to some other change
in his lifestyle.

Cathy

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-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns."
-- Steve Martin

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George Lagergren <[email hidden]> wrote:
But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows'
milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar

addict

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that too much sugar is bad for their human body?

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How does one convince George that just because he has
problems with dairy, not everyone does?

Not everyone but maybe 1/4; or 1/3; or 1/2 of the population (???)
has problems with dairy or cows' milk.

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George Lagergren <[email hidden]> wrote:
But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows'
milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar

addict

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that too much sugar is bad for their human body?

"David Wright" <[email hidden]> replied:

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How does one convince George that just because he has
problems with dairy, not everyone does?

Not everyone but maybe 1/4; or 1/3; or 1/2 of the population (???)
has problems with dairy or cows' milk.

Oh, excellent guesswork George. Very convincing. Did this unknown
proportion of the population also give up milk because

"That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I
finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk.

I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his
early 20s
because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's milk."?

Cathy

cathyb said:

George doesn't know he has problems with dairy; he gave up dairy
because:
"That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I
finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk.

Right, but my twice yearly strep throats disappeared completely
after stopping the drinking of cows' milk. Also, the lung congestion
disappeared.

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Apparently, he has never tried drinking it since, and consequently has
no idea whether his problems would return if he did, whether their
cessation was coincidental, or whether it was due to some other change
in his lifestyle.

I made no other change n my diet. After reading the book:
"Milk: The Deadly Poison", I had no desire to ever re-start consuming dairy
or drinking cows' milk.

Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with the very
heavy lung congestion was pure hell.

I now greatly enjoy drinking lots of (bottled) pure water at room
temperature.
Drinking cows' milk stored at room temperature is NOT possible.

cathyb said:

"That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I
finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk.

I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his
early 20s because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's

milk."?

btw, what is wrong with giving up consuming a particular food item,
especially when that food item is bulky and heavy AND that bulky, heavy
food item also requires cold storage?

plus after giving up a particular food item, one solves three
health problems: strep throat; lung congestion; common colds.

does a gallon of bottled, pure water weigh less or more than a
gallon of bottled cows' milk?

if people had to purchase meat items, say in 50 pounds cases, how
many people would drag meat purchases home?

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Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with
the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell.

Who did you catch those strep throats from?

Vashti

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George Lagergren said:

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George Lagergren <[email hidden]> wrote:
But how can the pro-cows' milk drinkers be convinced that cows'
milk may be bad for the human body? How does one convince a sugar

addict

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that too much sugar is bad for their human body?

"David Wright" <[email hidden]> replied:

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How does one convince George that just because he has
problems with dairy, not everyone does?

Not everyone but maybe 1/4; or 1/3; or 1/2 of the population (???)
has problems with dairy or cows' milk.

It's so much fun watching you make stuff up, George. You don't have
the slightest idea what the actual number is, and it would have to
be qualified by specifying what population you're talking about.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns."
-- Steve Martin

My daughter also gets twice yearly strep throats.

BUT
1) She is lactose intolerant - runs in the family. I had a grandfather
who was so violently lactose intolerant that he had rickets because he
couldn't get enough calcium as a child.
and
2) She lives on an island in the South China Sea, where it is not easy
to get ANY dairy products, except at Pizza Hut - which she doesn't like.

Vashti said:

It wasn't a dark and stormy night when George Lagergren said:

Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with
the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell.

Who did you catch those strep throats from?

Vashti

--
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hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present"
Glen Cook

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My daughter also gets twice yearly strep throats.

BUT
1) She is lactose intolerant - runs in the family. I had a grandfather
who was so violently lactose intolerant that he had rickets because he
couldn't get enough calcium as a child.

Rickets is not caused by calcium deficiency. It's caused by vitamin D
deficiency.

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and
2) She lives on an island in the South China Sea, where it is not easy to
get ANY dairy products, except at Pizza Hut - which she doesn't like.

So of course her strep throat is not caused by milk. Only George gets strep
throat from milk. Strange that.
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George Lagergren said:

cathyb said:

"That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I
finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk.

I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his
early 20s because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's

milk."?

btw, what is wrong with giving up consuming a particular food item,
especially when that food item is bulky and heavy AND that bulky, heavy
food item also requires cold storage?

George, if your fridge is so small you had to give up milk, fine.
Strange, but fine.

Your deciding that milk is the cause of all your health problems and
extrapolating that to the entire population without evidence, however
is more than strange, it's bizarre.

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plus after giving up a particular food item, one solves three
health problems: strep throat; lung congestion; common colds.

does a gallon of bottled, pure water weigh less or more than a
gallon of bottled cows' milk?

Why?

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if people had to purchase meat items, say in 50 pounds cases, how
many people would drag meat purchases home?

Is there a rule at your local shop that you have to buy milk in bulk?
What on earth are you trying to say?

Vashti said:

George Lagergren wrote:
Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with
the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell.

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Who did you catch those strep throats from?

As I have mentioned here before, I caught those strep throats from
my drinking of cows' milk. Cows' milk is a mucus creating food item.
Mucus creating food items causes germs to get a "hold" in the human body.
Thus cows' milk drinkers can create an internal environment where the ear
infection germ or the strep throat germ can "stay" in the human body.

Once I stopped my drinking of cows' milk, no more strep throats
for me.

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ted rosenberg said:

My daughter also gets twice yearly strep throats.
BUT
1) She is lactose intolerant - runs in the family. I had a grandfather
who was so violently lactose intolerant that he had rickets because he
couldn't get enough calcium as a child.

"Rich" <[email hidden]> replied:

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Rickets is not caused by calcium deficiency. It's caused by vitamin D
deficiency.

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2) She lives on an island in the South China Sea, where it is not easy

to

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get ANY dairy products, except at Pizza Hut - which she doesn't like.

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So of course her strep throat is not caused by milk. Only George gets

strep

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throat from milk. Strange that.

It may be strange. But at least I am now wise enough to stay away
from dairy (& cows' milk) products. Too bad I was not this wise 40 years
ago.

You are one of the most ignorent twits I have seen in a ling time

I guess you went to sckool in an area where theu didn't teacj science,
or Logic, or...

George Lagergren said:

Vashti said:

George Lagergren wrote:
Plus my twice-yearly strep throats for 30 years with
the very heavy lung congestion was pure hell.

"Vashti" <[email hidden]> replied:

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Who did you catch those strep throats from?

As I have mentioned here before, I caught those strep throats from
my drinking of cows' milk. Cows' milk is a mucus creating food item.
Mucus creating food items causes germs to get a "hold" in the human body.
Thus cows' milk drinkers can create an internal environment where the ear
infection germ or the strep throat germ can "stay" in the human body.

Once I stopped my drinking of cows' milk, no more strep throats
for me.

--
"...in addition to being foreign territory the past is, as history, a
hall of mirrors that reflect the needs of souls observing from the present"
Glen Cook

In article <[email hidden]>,

cathyb said:

George Lagergren said:

cathyb said:

"That cow's milk requires refrigeration was the real reason why I
finally decided to give up drinking cow's milk.

I have a friend who gave up drinking cow's milk in his
early 20s because of the bother of the cold storage requirement for cow's

milk."?

btw, what is wrong with giving up consuming a particular food item,
especially when that food item is bulky and heavy AND that bulky, heavy
food item also requires cold storage?

George, if your fridge is so small you had to give up milk, fine.
Strange, but fine.

Your deciding that milk is the cause of all your health problems and
extrapolating that to the entire population without evidence, however
is more than strange, it's bizarre.

Even beyond that, I'd note that while you *can* drink bottled water at
room temperature, it's nicer chilled, and a gallon of water takes up
just as much refrigerator space as a gallon of milk.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I believe The Battle of the Network Stars should be fought with guns."
-- Steve Martin

It wasn't a dark and stormy night when George Lagergren said:

if people had to purchase meat items, say in 50 pounds
cases, how many people would drag meat purchases home?

I don't eat meat... notice I don't attribute my lack of flu and
goodness knows what else to not eating meat and don't generalise my
own experiences to the entire world or fabricate causation from mere
correlation.

Vashti