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  1. In article <[email hidden]>, Judith
    said...

    Quoted message said:

    I have one bite/blister just above my right heel and one on the top of
    my right foot at the moment. They are very uncomfortable until the
    blister bursts - usually accidentally by catching on something but I
    did burst one deliberately last week because they don't half hurt.


    Whatever it is it sounds like the things that have been eating me for
    lunch recently. Low down and itchyouchy? Dunno what they were, but I
    dunnarf wish they weren't.
    --
    /
    Fran O(<|={
    \

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, Peewiglet
    said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not a snake, though a lady here was bitten on the leg last week, she
    got shipped quite a long way to find somewhere with anti venom.

    <fx: little shriek!> Where's 'here'?


    I was wondering that as well, and hoping that 'here' wasn't here.
    --
    /
    Fran O(<|={
    \

  3. Fran said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have one bite/blister just above my right heel and one on the top of
    my right foot at the moment. They are very uncomfortable until the
    blister bursts - usually accidentally by catching on something but I
    did burst one deliberately last week because they don't half hurt.


    Whatever it is it sounds like the things that have been eating me for
    lunch recently. Low down and itchyouchy? Dunno what they were, but I
    dunnarf wish they weren't.

    They seem to like ankles and wrists (especially under my watch strap).
    S'wierd how they can get through overlapping layers of clothing like
    you said previously.

    I bought some Anthisan because I had forgotten to take any after-bite
    stuff away with me. I reckon it's completely useless. Dab-on ammonia
    [not neat! It's an after-bite preparation in a pen] helps if applied
    immediately after being bitten. Hydrocortisone cream helps in the
    days afterwards when the bitten area swells and burns up.

    I hate the b*ggers.

    Judith

  4. "druidh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Sid B said:


    You might find this page interesting, if you can stand the appalling
    layout! It has a good appraisal of various repellents, including
    Skin-so-soft - which doesn't get the unqualified approval rating


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    other answers might lead you to expect 🙁

    http://www.albawest.com/repellents.html

    1/ The SSS product mentioned is the one containing IR3535 which is


    *not*

    Quoted message said:

    available in the UK.

    2/ The test reffered to was carried out using the US (IR3535) variant.

    3/ The test was on mosquitoes - *not* midges.

    Indeed, all true. But as it also points out: "Many walkers think highly
    of Avon's products but there are just as many, if not more, who claim it
    is ineffective as a repellent. The negative view seems to be gaining
    strength and there certainly seem to be more negative views posted on
    the net than positive ones." I don't suppose the web master has any
    quantative evidence for this assertion, but the stuff certainly isn't
    the universal panacea that folk myth is making it out to be. still if
    it does it for you, fine - at least it's a good moisturiser (so I'm told
    by my feminine side!)

    --
    Sid B
    Spamtrap in operation : ALL incoming mail to address shown autodeletes
    unseen on receipt. To beat the trap, cut the [censored]!

  5. Peewiglet <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Judith said:
    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if there are differences due to personal allergies, I was
    surprised to see Judith mention blistering on the spots as I have only
    experienced this when bitten by what I take to be spiders.

    I'm not exactly what it is that bites me that causes the blisters but
    I don't *think* it's spiders. I think I would notice spiders crawling
    over me and biting chunks out of me!

    Not necessarily. They're probably doing it when you're fast asleep in
    bed.


    They don't bite you when you are asleep, they crawl into your mouth, so
    I have read, three of them in an average night, but I suppose if you are
    camping it could be a lot more.
    --
    Gordon Harris

  6. "Andy Champ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    British spiders don't bite(1). Ticks do have eight legs though...

    Andy

    (1) at least, not hard enough to get through human skin. Flies have a
    different view!

    Yes, they do! Here on the South Coast we have flourishing populations
    of Steatoda nobilis, which can and do bite humans.

    --
    Sid B
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  7. On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:57:21 +0100, "Sid B" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    the stuff [Skin-So-Soft] certainly isn't the universal panacea that
    folk myth is making it out to be.

    Even commercially available DEET-based repellants aren't a universal
    panacea. I'm convinced that some areas spawn midges that actually
    *like* the taste of DEET-impregnated skin!

    Al
    --
    [This space intentionally left blank]

  8. Gordon Harris said:

    Peewiglet <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Judith said:

    On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:02:44 +0100, [email hidden] wrote:

    >I wonder if there are differences due to personal allergies, I was
    >surprised to see Judith mention blistering on the spots as I have only
    >experienced this when bitten by what I take to be spiders.

    I'm not exactly what it is that bites me that causes the blisters but
    I don't *think* it's spiders. I think I would notice spiders crawling
    over me and biting chunks out of me!

    Not necessarily. They're probably doing it when you're fast asleep in
    bed.


    They don't bite you when you are asleep, they crawl into your mouth, so
    I have read, three of them in an average night, but I suppose if you are
    camping it could be a lot more.

    Of course, you're right! I didn't like to mention it, though, in case
    we scared Judith.

    Poor Judith, with a room infested by night-biting spiders like that...

    (Heh heh...)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  9. On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:11:38 +0100, "Sid B" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, they do! Here on the South Coast we have flourishing populations
    of Steatoda nobilis, which can and do bite humans.

    Eeek! http://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/steatoda_nobilis.htm

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  10. "Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:11:38 +0100, "Sid B" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, they do! Here on the South Coast we have flourishing


    populations

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of Steatoda nobilis, which can and do bite humans.

    Eeek! http://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/steatoda_nobilis.htm

    That's the one! However the bit about "currently only 5 recorded
    occurrences in Britain since 1979" is now quite out of date. There have
    been at least that number mentioned in the local news media over the
    last year or so. I find these quite spiders quite frequently in my
    garage, shed and garden. EEEEEK!

    --
    Sid B
    Spamtrap in operation : ALL incoming mail to address shown autodeletes
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  11. "Alan Bremner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:57:21 +0100, "Sid B" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    the stuff [Skin-So-Soft] certainly isn't the universal panacea that
    folk myth is making it out to be.

    Even commercially available DEET-based repellants aren't a universal
    panacea. I'm convinced that some areas spawn midges that actually
    *like* the taste of DEET-impregnated skin!

    Very true. On one midge-infested outing, the little b******* attacked a
    walking companion who was drenched in the stuff far more than they did
    me, and I hadn't used anything that day. I've found that whatever you
    use, sometimes it seems to work a treat but sometimes not at all.
    There's a fortune waiting to be made by anyone who finds the "final
    solution". 🙂

    --
    Sid B
    Spamtrap in operation : ALL incoming mail to address shown autodeletes
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  12. On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:34:03 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:02:44 +0100, [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:


    Oh yuk.... I've just looked them up. Please tell me we don't get them
    over here. I don't think I could face them too!

    I don't think so but I am sure there is something similar that prefers
    to bite in similar areas.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Not a snake, though a lady here was bitten on the leg last week, she
    got shipped quite a long way to find somewhere with anti venom.

    <fx: little shriek!> Where's 'here'?

    I'm wary of people coming just to kill adders, they'll probably kill
    slow worms or grass snakes in the pursuit but tq0161.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I saw a girl with the spots I describe and her legs were absolutely
    covered in blotches.

    Horrible. Sounds like my Snowdonian midge bites.

    Will midges climb inside clothing?

    AJH

  13. <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Will midges climb inside clothing?

    Yes, they do. Oh, and if you're camping <fx : shiver> check your socks
    before putting them on :-(

    --
    Theo
    www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

  14. On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:11:36 +0200, "theo" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Will midges climb inside clothing?

    Yes, they do. Oh, and if you're camping <fx : shiver> check your socks
    before putting them on :-(

    I may have to retract my statement that I had no problem with midges
    in Scotland then, is it possible I drove home with one eating my leg?

    AJH

  15. "Fran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, said...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    British spiders don't bite(1). Ticks do have eight legs though...

    Aren't ticks the same family?

    Yes. They're arachnids, same as scorpions and mites. And they bite,
    as all arachnids bite, because it's how they eat. The thing is, that
    in the UK a spider bite ought not to be even noticeable, let alone
    dangerous, whereas if you're in somewhere like Australia it's a whole
    'nother question. I say "ought not", BTW, because I've got a long
    history of allergies such that I've learned never to say "is not".
    Knowing my luck I'd feel it all right /and/ suffer afterwards :-(

    Dangerous - maybe not (although allergic reaction could be
    life-threateneing to vulnerable individuals). But you would certainly
    notice a bite from steatoda nobilis (sometimes called 'false black
    widow'.) From www.introduced-species.co.uk : "This spider is being
    discovered regularly in the South of England and with the apparent rise
    in average summer temperatures it seems likely that it will appear with
    even greater regularity. It can give a painful bite and there have been
    cases of persons being bitten in the UK. It superficially resembles the
    European Black Widow at a cursory glance but is nowhere near as
    dangerous."
    Our local hospitals have had a number of cases over the last year or so.
    The bite is painful, said to be like a bad bee or wasp sting with
    stinging, redness and swelling, but also with local sweating and
    feverishness in some cases. You have been warned :-)

    --
    Sid B
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  16. Fran said:
    Quoted message said:

    I dunno, but presumably it was the same method by which I got a tick
    in the middle of my leg when I wore long trousers and gaiters all
    day...

    Eeep?

    Eek, even! :-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  17. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Oh yuk.... I've just looked them up. Please tell me we don't get them
    over here. I don't think I could face them too!

    I don't think so but I am sure there is something similar that prefers
    to bite in similar areas.

    I trust not... it's our only compensation for the lousy weather.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not a snake, though a lady here was bitten on the leg last week, she
    got shipped quite a long way to find somewhere with anti venom.

    <fx: little shriek!> Where's 'here'?

    I'm wary of people coming just to kill adders, they'll probably kill
    slow worms or grass snakes in the pursuit but tq0161.

    Erm.... kill adders? Where are you, then? Not in the UK, presumably?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I saw a girl with the spots I describe and her legs were absolutely
    covered in blotches.

    Horrible. Sounds like my Snowdonian midge bites.

    Will midges climb inside clothing?

    Certainly, if they get the chance. They're pretty insubstantial,
    though, so they could be easily squished if the clothing was tight.

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  18. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, they do. Oh, and if you're camping <fx : shiver> check your socks
    before putting them on :-(

    I may have to retract my statement that I had no problem with midges
    in Scotland then, is it possible I drove home with one eating my leg?

    If you were wearing baggy trousers, very possible.

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  19. Judith said:

    I bought some Anthisan because I had forgotten to take any after-bite
    stuff away with me. I reckon it's completely useless. Dab-on ammonia
    [not neat! It's an after-bite preparation in a pen] helps if applied
    immediately after being bitten. Hydrocortisone cream helps in the
    days afterwards when the bitten area swells and burns up.

    I hate the b*ggers.

    I hate them too. I didn't really understand the way these preparations
    are meant to work until I needed to find out quickly, due to the
    hundreds of midge bites on my legs and bum after Wales. They told me
    at the chemist that if I'd applied an anti-histamine shortly after the
    bites then it should have prevented them from developing into the
    itchy bumps that came up about 12 hours later. How long after the
    bites did you apply the Anthisan? (I'm assuming that's an
    anti-histamine.)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  20. On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:22:49 +0100, "Sid B" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Eeek! http://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/steatoda_nobilis.htm

    That's the one! However the bit about "currently only 5 recorded
    occurrences in Britain since 1979" is now quite out of date. There have
    been at least that number mentioned in the local news media over the
    last year or so. I find these quite spiders quite frequently in my
    garage, shed and garden. EEEEEK!

    Ugh.... how big are they? How do you distinguish them from the bog
    standard garden spiders?

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

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