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  1. Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glass of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetty with sauce if just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    J. David

  2. Jimmy said:

    Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glass of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetty with sauce if just 9 grams

    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    J. David

    Go to the newsgroup misc.fitness.weights and ask your question
    there. You'll get advice from other weight lifters who have faced
    the same problem. Most will recommend whey protein powder to
    supplement the other sourcss of protein in your diet.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jimmy said:

    Hi all,

    I have lately started lifting weights and following a healthy diet
    (Willett: the kind of fat/protein/carbs is more important than the
    amount/ratio)
    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet
    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    Because of this I started wondering how much protein I consume every
    day comparing them to how much protein I *should" consume.

    Standard advice is to consume approx. 1 gram of protien per estimated
    lb. of lean body weight...

    Quoted message said:


    Since I'm trying to grow muscles I want to eat more protein than
    usually recommended and I aim for 1.5g/kg/day which would be for me 83
    grams of protein
    I realized in spite of what I've been told it is really hard to get
    enough proteins, the problem is that many foods that are high in
    calories and fill you up quickly don't provide much protein.

    <lol> Buy a set of food tables.

    Eat meat.

    Quoted message said:


    For example 100g of fish is just 15g of protein
    100g of chicken is just 20g of protein
    Two glass of milk 6 grams of protein
    This is just 41g but already a good amount of calories and bulk
    Add an egg? That's just 6g protein more of protein
    Two eggs? Just 12, so it is just 53g
    50 grams of beans with a salad? That's just 5 grams of protein
    A serving of whole spaghetty with sauce if just 9 grams

    Use some whey protein shakes to make your life easier. :-)

    Quoted message said:


    The problem then is that many calories in the diet come from extra
    virgin olive oil that is devoid of protein.
    So when I've already consumed enough calories and filled my stomach to
    its max, the amount of protein consumed is still lower than what I
    should aim for.

    Who said that getting enough protein is easy?!
    It is not!

    Yes it is. Eat fewer carbs to re-balance your calories.
    It's not rocket science.

    Quoted message said:


    I hope someone can help me with my predicament
    Thank You

    Good luck!

    Quoted message said:


    J. David


    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  4. Happy farting.

    "Rita" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Go to the newsgroup misc.fitness.weights and ask your question
    there. You'll get advice from other weight lifters who have faced
    the same problem. Most will recommend whey protein powder to
    supplement the other sourcss of protein in your diet.

  5. Jimmy said:

    Hi all,

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Cannot get enough, I see?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet

    34 inch waist 🙁

    Quoted message said:

    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    I am one inch taller than you and weigh more than you do. 🙂

    Correction: You don't need to gain 25 pounds. You need to gain 50
    pounds!!!

    The usual approach is drinking protein drinks/shakes throughout the
    day. Cut back on all aerobic exercise. Do only bodybuilding 3 or 4
    times a week. And, eat, eat, eat ...

  6. Mr-Natural-Health said:
    Jimmy said:

    Hi all,

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Cannot get enough, I see?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a 17 years old male: 121 pounds 5.9 feet

    34 inch waist 🙁

    Quoted message said:

    My goal is to put on some muscles and burn the fat I've accumulated in
    the abs.

    I am one inch taller than you and weigh more than you do. 🙂

    Correction: You don't need to gain 25 pounds. You need to gain 50
    pounds!!!

    The usual approach is drinking protein drinks/shakes throughout the
    day. Cut back on all aerobic exercise. Do only bodybuilding 3 or 4
    times a week. And, eat, eat, eat ...

    That is indeed the advice he will get from those who do weight lifting.
    You can't lose weight and put on muscle. In time, you can convert
    fat to muscle. It won't happen overnight.

  7. Rita said:


    That is indeed the advice he will get from those who do weight lifting.
    You can't lose weight and put on muscle. In time, you can convert
    fat to muscle. It won't happen overnight.

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood. One can lose fat while building muscle and more muscle will
    help your body burn more fat. :o)

    rr

  8. Roger Rabbit said:
    Rita said:


    That is indeed the advice he will get from those who do weight lifting.
    You can't lose weight and put on muscle. In time, you can convert
    fat to muscle. It won't happen overnight.

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood. One can lose fat while building muscle and more muscle will
    help your body burn more fat. :o)

    I agree. You put it far more accurately than I did. There is a
    good discussion about this on this site:

    http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html

    This weight lifting website is written for women, but the advice
    applies to men as well and is highly recommended by many male
    weight lifters.

  9. "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:1120703422.01d58e6deba845262da42751bb7db985@teranews:

    [posting order rearranged]

    Quoted message said:

    "Rita" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Go to the newsgroup misc.fitness.weights and ask your question
    there. You'll get advice from other weight lifters who have faced
    the same problem. Most will recommend whey protein powder to
    supplement the other sourcss of protein in your diet.

    Happy farting.

    The OP is a teenage boy. Last time I checked, 17-year-old boys didn't
    automatically consider farting to be a Bad Thing. I'm reminded of the PETA
    activist who tried to convince a bunch of 11-12-year-old boys that they
    shouldn't drink milk because it would make them fart. I wonder how much
    extra milk they drank after hearing that.

  10. Roger Rabbit said:

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood.

    And all human beings consist largely of the empty space that exists
    between molecules. We only appear to be solid because our vision is
    largely defective.

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood.

    Only an idiot, like somebody who calls themselves Roger Rabbit, would
    write that in a thread like this.

    You have my condolences. 🙂

  11. Mr-Natural-Health said:


    Roger Rabbit said:

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood.

    And all human beings consist largely of the empty space that exists
    between molecules. We only appear to be solid because our vision is
    largely defective.

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood.

    Only an idiot, like somebody who calls themselves Roger Rabbit, would
    write that in a thread like this.

    I'm sorry, was it too advanced a concept for you?

    Quoted message said:

    You have my condolences. 🙂

    Your parents have my sympathies.

    rr

  12. [posting order corrected]

    Good points and very true...LOL

    A farting horse will never tire.
    A farting man is the one to hire.

    "Eric Bohlman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The OP is a teenage boy. Last time I checked, 17-year-old boys didn't
    automatically consider farting to be a Bad Thing. I'm reminded of the


    PETA

    Quoted message said:

    activist who tried to convince a bunch of 11-12-year-old boys that they
    shouldn't drink milk because it would make them fart. I wonder how much
    extra milk they drank after hearing that.

    Quoted message said:

    "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:1120703422.01d58e6deba845262da42751bb7db985@teranews:

    Quoted message said:


    Happy farting.

    Quoted message said:

    "Rita" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Go to the newsgroup misc.fitness.weights and ask your question
    there. You'll get advice from other weight lifters who have faced
    the same problem. Most will recommend whey protein powder to
    supplement the other sourcss of protein in your diet.

  13. It is impossible for your body to be in a catabolic and an anabolic state at
    the same time.

    Body builders know this and cycle their routines like this:
    1 month of pumping heavy for bulk (Low reps and lots of rest)
    1 month of shaping for definition...(combination, pyrimiding and split sets)
    1 month of trimming and losing weight...aerobics or aerobic weights (high
    reps).

    repeat

    "Roger Rabbit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Rita said:


    That is indeed the advice he will get from those who do weight lifting.
    You can't lose weight and put on muscle. In time, you can convert
    fat to muscle. It won't happen overnight.

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood. One can lose fat while building muscle and more muscle will
    help your body burn more fat. :o)

    rr

  14. Roger Rabbit said:

    I'm sorry, was it too advanced a concept for you?

    Exactly what part of "You are an idiot" don't you understand?

    LOL! You are truly dumb.

    Just my opinion, but I am right as usual. 🙂

  15. Mr-Natural-Health said:
    Roger Rabbit said:

    I'm sorry, was it too advanced a concept for you?

    Exactly what part of "You are an idiot" don't you understand?

    What part of "sarcasm" do YOU not understand.

    Quoted message said:


    LOL! You are truly dumb.

    You truly are clueless.

    Just thought you might want to know ... :o)

    rr

  16. If you have two men, both are 6 feet tall and weigh 200 pounds.
    Subject A has 10% body fat and subject B has 25% body fat. Are you
    trying to tell me they are equally efficient at burning fat?

    rr

    Pizza Girl. said:

    It is impossible for your body to be in a catabolic and an anabolic state at
    the same time.

    Body builders know this and cycle their routines like this:
    1 month of pumping heavy for bulk (Low reps and lots of rest)
    1 month of shaping for definition...(combination, pyrimiding and split sets)
    1 month of trimming and losing weight...aerobics or aerobic weights (high
    reps).

    repeat

    "Roger Rabbit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Rita said:


    That is indeed the advice he will get from those who do weight lifting.
    You can't lose weight and put on muscle. In time, you can convert
    fat to muscle. It won't happen overnight.

    Fat cannot be converted into muscle any more than it can be converted
    into wood. One can lose fat while building muscle and more muscle will
    help your body burn more fat. :o)

    rr


  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Roger Rabbit said:
    Mr-Natural-Health said:
    Roger Rabbit said:

    I'm sorry, was it too advanced a concept for you?

    Exactly what part of "You are an idiot" don't you understand?

    What part of "sarcasm" do YOU not understand.

    Quoted message said:


    LOL! You are truly dumb.

    You truly are clueless.

    Just thought you might want to know ... :o)

    rr

    You forgot to add "And I'm right as always".

    <lol>
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  18. Roger Rabbit said:

    What part of "sarcasm" do YOU not understand.

    What part of fat people convert fat into muscle by bodybuilding do you
    fail to understand? Nobody gives a [censored] as to how the process is
    actually accomplished as long as the fat appears to have been converted
    into muscle.

    Just my opinion, but I am right as usual.

    Just thought that you might might like to have some more sarcasm in
    your empty life.

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

    Your have the personality of a constipated warthog. 🙁

    You have my condolences. 🙂

  19. Mr-Natural-Health said:


    Roger Rabbit said:

    What part of "sarcasm" do YOU not understand.

    What part of fat people convert fat into muscle by bodybuilding do you
    fail to understand? Nobody gives a [censored] as to how the process is
    actually accomplished as long as the fat appears to have been converted
    into muscle.

    There is no process you idiot. Fat isn't converted to muscle. That was
    my point. You run a health site? I guess anyone can run a health site
    these days. :o(

    rr

  20. RBR said:

    There is no process you idiot. Fat isn't converted to muscle. That was
    my point.

    Ah! The classic negative attitude of a scientist in action.

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

    You are just plain negative and nasty. 🙂

    You have the personality of a constipated warthog.

    Just my opinion, but I am right as usual.

    Overweight people who bodybuild end up with muscle you dolt! And, they
    generally have an easier time building muscle than skinny people do.

    What is your problem, you constipated warthog?

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

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