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  1. With Lances retirement it will be interesting to see what Dicovery team
    decides to do. Discovery chose Yaroslav Popovych to take over as team
    captain I believe. I am a bit suprised that Discovery chose a younger
    rider, when there is such a wealth of talent.

    One possible scenario is would Paolo Savoldelli Discovery's lead rider
    until until other rider such as Tom Danielson or Antonio Cruz develop.
    I am waiting to see who Discovery hires this year. I don't know if
    Discovery has the money to hire another big time rider like Ivan Basso.
    Now I know that Discovery signed a contract with the team, but I am not
    certain if they committed to a funding level.

    One likely scenario is send a exceptionally strong team to the Vuelta
    and the let the riders see who is strongest. Another possiblity is to
    re-position the team as primarilly a classics team.

  2. Quoted message said:

    One possible scenario is would Paolo Savoldelli Discovery's lead rider
    until until other rider such as Tom Danielson or Antonio Cruz develop.
    I am waiting to see who Discovery hires this year. I don't know if
    Discovery has the money to hire another big time rider like Ivan Basso.
    Now I know that Discovery signed a contract with the team, but I am not
    certain if they committed to a funding level.

    Basso has one year more with CSC, and is happy there.

    Quoted message said:

    One likely scenario is send a exceptionally strong team to the Vuelta
    and the let the riders see who is strongest. Another possiblity is to
    re-position the team as primarilly a classics team.

    Poul Erik
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  3. Good question, Discovery doesn't seem focused on developing the current
    younger riders. They hardly race them. It's all about Lance until 7/24 at
    least.

    Just look at Pat McCarty, who was 6th U23 two years ago and some of his peer
    group of that era are riding the Tour and he gets to ride what is probably
    his second European race this year in Austria. Dave Z. had to go to CSC to
    get some attention. Tom B. was deemed to have a big head. The team they
    sent to the Giro was a place holder, with Savo able to support himself.

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    Quoted message said:

    With Lances retirement it will be interesting to see what Dicovery team
    decides to do. Discovery chose Yaroslav Popovych to take over as team
    captain I believe. I am a bit suprised that Discovery chose a younger
    rider, when there is such a wealth of talent.

    One possible scenario is would Paolo Savoldelli Discovery's lead rider
    until until other rider such as Tom Danielson or Antonio Cruz develop.
    I am waiting to see who Discovery hires this year. I don't know if
    Discovery has the money to hire another big time rider like Ivan Basso.
    Now I know that Discovery signed a contract with the team, but I am not
    certain if they committed to a funding level.

    One likely scenario is send a exceptionally strong team to the Vuelta
    and the let the riders see who is strongest. Another possiblity is to
    re-position the team as primarilly a classics team.

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    With Lances retirement it will be interesting to see what Dicovery team
    decides to do.

    Does this team, in its current incarnation, really have a future
    without an American star ?

    Depends. How many of the Discovery Channels are on Euro satellites?

  5. Actually Discovery does have a development program. It's just that
    Discovery has chosen to acquire the majority of their talent as opposed
    to developing their riders. As a result a great many of their riders
    are older and approaching retirement.

    The challenge will be how to deliver publicity value and results while
    transitioning to a new generation who can deliver victories. One should
    remember however that Discovery has a 2 year contract I believe.

  6. Possibly, the real problem is for Trek and it's factory dealers. Trek
    currently requires it's Trek branded stores to carry and purchase 80%
    from Trek. Because so much of Treks brand equity is based on Lance it
    puts the Trek stores in precarious position. The Trek dealers need to
    work together to force Trek to renogitate their contracts.

  7. [email hidden] wrote in news:1120797566.054523.322740
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    With Lances retirement it will be interesting to see what Dicovery team
    decides to do.

    Does this team, in its current incarnation, really have a future
    without an American star ?

    Depends. How many of the Discovery Channels are on Euro satellites?

    http://www.discoveryeurope.com

    9 channels in 20 languages. So it's an obvious conclusion that Discovery
    gets plenty of advertising and marketing mileage out of its cycling team in
    Europe, and does not need to replace Lance with another American rider to
    meet its marketing goals.

    The current team must drive OLN nuts. Every time they show Lance on TV they
    give their competitor a free plug.

  8. Quoted message said:

    With Lances retirement it will be interesting to see what Dicovery team
    decides to do.

    Does this team, in its current incarnation, really have a future
    without an American star ?

  9. On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:30:27 GMT, "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Good question, Discovery doesn't seem focused on developing the current
    younger riders. They hardly race them. It's all about Lance until 7/24 at
    least.
    Tom B. was deemed to have a big head.

    Yeah, it's shocking how the team kicked him out.....

    JT

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  10. If that's the case, then the day after Armstrong has retired, the
    rumors will begin that Discovery is making him an offer he "can't
    refuse" to go one more time.

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    With Lances retirement it will be interesting to see what Dicovery team
    decides to do.

    Does this team, in its current incarnation, really have a future
    without an American star ?

    I think Discovery wil try and try to find an American champion; they will
    then market him for the following year or 2 with a reality based series
    focusing so-and-so's quest.

    Laz

  12. PanFan said:


    The current team must drive OLN nuts. Every time they show Lance on TV they
    give their competitor a free plug.

    Not exactly. it's not like Discovery shows bike racing, bull riding,
    and fishing shows.

  13. "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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    Quoted message said:
    PanFan said:


    The current team must drive OLN nuts. Every time they show Lance on TV


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    give their competitor a free plug.

    Not exactly. it's not like Discovery shows bike racing, bull riding,
    and fishing shows.

    Here in the Netherlands, Discovery does show fishing shows. And quite a few
    shows that may be targeting the same audience as the bull riding programs,
    like programs about tanks, fighter planes, crocodiles and motorbikes. In
    television, you're competing for audience, not for content.

  14. Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    The current team must drive OLN nuts. Every time they show Lance on TV


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    give their competitor a free plug.

    Not exactly. it's not like Discovery shows bike racing, bull riding,
    and fishing shows.

    Here in the Netherlands, Discovery does show fishing shows. And quite a few
    shows that may be targeting the same audience as the bull riding programs,
    like programs about tanks, fighter planes, crocodiles and motorbikes.

    But since OLN does not broadcast to Europe, that's a moot point.

    Quoted message said:

    In television, you're competing for audience, not for content.

    How do you draw the audience?

  15. Laz said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    With Lances retirement it will be interesting to see what Dicovery team
    decides to do.

    Does this team, in its current incarnation, really have a future
    without an American star ?

    I think Discovery wil try and try to find an American champion; they will
    then market him for the following year or 2 with a reality based series
    focusing so-and-so's quest.

    Laz


    That's a good thought about the reality series. It's too bad Mike Creed
    has been sick and isn't ready for that level yet, that'd be a hell of a
    show.
    Bill C

  16. "Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    That's a good thought about the reality series. It's too bad Mike Creed
    has been sick and isn't ready for that level yet, that'd be a hell of a
    show.
    Bill C

    But the show won't take off- Lance had serious potential from the get-go-
    the rider discovery will select will be for all the wrong reasons, namely
    pretty-boy looks to begin followed by a sensitive reserve that will capture
    the hearts of thousands of women, luring them into an audience base. The
    team will falter and be relegated to a B-team status, Disney will turn out
    their pockets to show they have no more money for Team Discovery, and
    Lance's legacy will fold ( unless someone like FedEx picks them up ).

    Laz

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