I really enjoyed DZ's explanations of why he crashed, which was that he didn't know why he crashed. It didn't look like he sustained a head injury, so you can't blame it on retrograde amnesia. My guess is that he just to embarrassed to admit that he did something really dumb.
Perhaps Phil (or was it Paul) was right when he said that Z hit his elbow with his knee and jerked the handle bars around. If that's what happened, I'd probably wouldn't admit it either.
I really enjoyed DZ's explanations of why he crashed, which was that he didn't know why he crashed. It didn't look like he sustained a head injury, so you can't blame it on retrograde amnesia. My guess is that he just to embarrassed to admit that he did something really dumb.
Perhaps Phil (or was it Paul) was right when he said that Z hit his elbow with his knee and jerked the handle bars around. If that's what happened, I'd probably wouldn't admit it either.
Either that, or he's covering for someone else.
Watching the video full screen at slow speed you can see Z's right profile and something white/silverish in the pedal area appears to come off, at the least looks like he popped out of the pedal. Looks like an overlap, a cleat pop, or an elbow bump works too. Expert forensics of low res video at 1600px at slow speed.... (worth it for the voiceover alone ) http://v12.velonews.com/tour2005/video/tdf.php?s=4
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Perhaps Phil (or was it Paul) was right when he said that Z hit his elbow with his knee and jerked the handle bars around. If that's what happened, I'd probably wouldn't admit it either.
Looking at the slo-mo (which is very low res.), it looked like he braked too hard, and his rear wheel slid out. Those TT wheels are tricky and perhaps there was a side wind adding to the instability of the bike. The concrete looked to be dry and not slick, and I don't think the policeman was in the way. It didn't look as if he was looking over his shoulder before the crash either, but it is really difficult to tell.
I really enjoyed DZ's explanations of why he crashed, which was that he didn't know why he crashed. It didn't look like he sustained a head injury, so you can't blame it on retrograde amnesia. My guess is that he just to embarrassed to admit that he did something really dumb.
Perhaps Phil (or was it Paul) was right when he said that Z hit his elbow with his knee and jerked the handle bars around. If that's what happened, I'd probably wouldn't admit it either.
Either that, or he's covering for someone else.
Watching the video full screen at slow speed you can see Z's right profile and something white/silverish in the pedal area appears to come off, at the least looks like he popped out of the pedal. Looks like an overlap, a cleat pop, or an elbow bump works too. Expert forensics of low res video at 1600px at slow speed.... (worth it for the voiceover alone ) http://v12.velonews.com/tour2005/video/tdf.php?s=4
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Perhaps Phil (or was it Paul) was right when he said that Z hit his elbow with his knee and jerked the handle bars around. If that's what happened, I'd probably wouldn't admit it either.
Looking at the slo-mo (which is very low res.), it looked like he braked too hard, and his rear wheel slid out. Those TT wheels are tricky and perhaps there was a side wind adding to the instability of the bike. The concrete looked to be dry and not slick, and I don't think the policeman was in the way. It didn't look as if he was looking over his shoulder before the crash either, but it is really difficult to tell.
Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain didn't catch the front cogwheel.
"Poul Erik" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news: [email hidden]... | On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:06:11 -0700, "Gary Funck" <[email hidden]> | wrote: | | > | >"Jack Hollis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | >news:[email hidden]... | >> | >> Perhaps Phil (or was it Paul) was right when he said that Z hit his | >> elbow with his knee and jerked the handle bars around. If that's what | >> happened, I'd probably wouldn't admit it either. | > | >Looking at the slo-mo (which is very low res.), it looked like he braked too | >hard, and his rear wheel slid out. Those TT wheels are tricky and perhaps | >there | >was a side wind adding to the instability of the bike. The concrete looked | >to be dry | >and not slick, and I don't think the policeman was in the way. It didn't | >look as if | >he was looking over his shoulder before the crash either, but it is really | >difficult to | >tell. | > | Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing | gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain | didn't catch the front cogwheel. | | Poul Erik | Fjern cykel i adresse That is what I saw on the Slow Motion on French Television as well. Bernard Thevenet thinks the same thing.
Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain didn't catch the front cogwheel.
Dumbass -
That would still be operator error. Gear changes should be "feathered" until the chain is engaged.
That would still be operator error. Gear changes should be "feathered" until the chain is engaged.
It's difficult to believe that slipping the chain could cause a pro to tumble, though I suppose it could've caused the freewheel to seize up if it got derailed in the rear wheel. I'd think that most experienced cyclists have had a chain break, a rear axle break, and even have the chain skip off the freewheel into the spokes without losing control of the bike, but then again few have been 60+ kpmh at the time.
It's difficult to believe that slipping the chain could cause a pro to tumble, though I suppose it could've caused the freewheel to seize up if it got derailed in the rear wheel. I'd think that most experienced cyclists have had a chain break, a rear axle break, and even have the chain skip off the freewheel into the spokes without losing control of the bike, but then again few have been 60+ kpmh at the time.
"Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain didn't catch the front cogwheel."
That makes no sense. He was already in the Big Ring.
His right knee hit his elbow, he was tired, he crashed himself.
Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain didn't catch the front cogwheel.
Dumbass -
That would still be operator error. Gear changes should be "feathered" until the chain is engaged.
You can't feather [censored] with ergopower/STI. Which is the whole point of them anyways.
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Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain didn't catch the front cogwheel.
Doesn't make sense. In a TTT why would anyone ever be in anything but the big chainring? --------------- Alex
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Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain didn't catch the front cogwheel.
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Doesn't make sense. In a TTT why would anyone ever be in anything but the big chainring?
I saw this movie once, where this guy went 60mph in the small ring.
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Danish television show it very slow, and it look like he's changing gear, and then his foot came down very fast. It could be the chain didn't catch the front cogwheel.
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Doesn't make sense. In a TTT why would anyone ever be in anything but the big chainring?
I saw this movie once, where this guy went 60mph in the small ring.
