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  1. Hi all,

    yesterday I did not pay attention to the road ahead, et voila, at the
    most distance point of my long run I stumbled, tried to avoid falling,
    but finally couldn't. Now my knees are no longer that nice, and as I
    tried to catch my fall with my left hand that got some pretty bad
    abrasions. (But at least I could finish my run in a good time).

    Do you have special techniques to avoid major damage when falling? I
    tried to come up with a good strategy while stumbling, but went down
    way too fast to come up with a good one. Any tips (beside not to fall
    😉 )?

    Thanks, Chris

  2. Chris said:

    Hi all,

    yesterday I did not pay attention to the road ahead, et voila, at the
    most distance point of my long run I stumbled, tried to avoid falling,
    but finally couldn't. Now my knees are no longer that nice, and as I
    tried to catch my fall with my left hand that got some pretty bad
    abrasions. (But at least I could finish my run in a good time).

    Do you have special techniques to avoid major damage when falling? I
    tried to come up with a good strategy while stumbling, but went down
    way too fast to come up with a good one. Any tips (beside not to fall
    😉 )?

    The problem with falling in such circumstances is that the fall is de
    facto a surprise, for which you cannot be prepared. However, what
    applies to falling happens to apply to running - i.e. be as relaxed as
    possible. I remember running through a wood, keeping an eye on where I
    was treading as there were plenty of exposed tree roots, when I looked
    up and saw a cyclist on the path ahead. In the few seconds while I
    looked up, I tripped on a root. I was travelling quite fast at the
    time, and suffered a few abrasions, most surprisingly to my shoulder
    blade! I must have rolled or something, but don't remember it at all.

    Edward
    --
    The reading group's reading group:
    http://www.bookgroup.org.uk

  3. HI Chris-

    If you can manage it, try to roll over the nearest shoulder, and
    over. I've been trying to teach myself that for the last several
    years (run a lot of trails and invariably catch a foot once a
    year or so) and it helps a lot to roll. Last time I actually rolled
    all the way over and almost back onto my feet again. Still
    scratched the side of the knees, but much less damage and
    especially, much less damage to the hand. And oddly, try to
    relax once you know you're going down.

    Teresa in AZ

    Chris said:

    Hi all,

    yesterday I did not pay attention to the road ahead, et voila, at the
    most distance point of my long run I stumbled, tried to avoid falling,
    but finally couldn't. Now my knees are no longer that nice, and as I
    tried to catch my fall with my left hand that got some pretty bad
    abrasions. (But at least I could finish my run in a good time).

    Do you have special techniques to avoid major damage when falling? I
    tried to come up with a good strategy while stumbling, but went down
    way too fast to come up with a good one. Any tips (beside not to fall
    😉 )?

    Thanks, Chris

  4. Quoted message said:

    Any tips

    Not from me - as scissorhands notes, falls are unexpected and sudden
    and you're not going to have a lot of time on your way down to ponder
    your options.

    But I can offer this encouragement based solely on my own experience: I
    think with experience (i.e. falling), your body likely learns to do it
    more gracefully each time, automagically. I trip every couple or three
    months on some tight and obstacle-strewn singletrack in my local park
    and seem to come away less scathed all the time.

    I bet you could really accelerate this learning process, not to mention
    remove much of the pain and scarring, by practicing on a nice soft
    lawn. But is anyone who's not, say, an aspiring stuntman gonna really
    do such a thing?

  5. Quoted message said:

    Any tips

    Not from me - as scissorhands notes, falls are unexpected and sudden
    and you're not going to have a lot of time on your way down to ponder
    your options.

    But I can offer this encouragement based solely on my own experience: I
    think with experience (i.e. falling), your body likely learns to do it
    more gracefully each time, automagically. I trip every couple or three
    months on some tight and obstacle-strewn singletrack in my local park
    and seem to come away less scathed all the time.

    I bet you could really accelerate this learning process, not to mention
    remove much of the pain and scarring, by practicing on a nice soft
    lawn. But is anyone who's not, say, an aspiring stuntman gonna really
    do such a thing?

  6. Chris said:

    Hi all,

    yesterday I did not pay attention to the road ahead, et voila, at the
    most distance point of my long run I stumbled, tried to avoid falling,
    but finally couldn't. Now my knees are no longer that nice, and as I
    tried to catch my fall with my left hand that got some pretty bad
    abrasions. (But at least I could finish my run in a good time).

    Do you have special techniques to avoid major damage when falling? I
    tried to come up with a good strategy while stumbling, but went down
    way too fast to come up with a good one. Any tips (beside not to fall
    😉 )?

    Thanks, Chris

    I'll add to Teresa's comments. Rolling is the generally accepted way to
    "fall". However, sometimes I'm usually on the ground before I know it,
    esp. on wet ice. Also, I've not been convinced that rolling is the way
    to go on a knife edge, deep puddles (say 6 in or more), stream crossings
    (assuming shallow, not one of those you swim across, which I won't do).

    Some suggestions for reducing probability of falling. Run nearly
    vertical to keep your center of gravity close to being over feet. Even
    if you stumble, you will likely land on your feet.

    Sounds like you may have just spaced out, but sometimes people look at
    trail and not what's ahead or vice versa. Increase use of peripheral
    vision to see both. If looking down at trail, you tend to not see turns,
    on-coming traffic, bears, and you go where you're looking. Keeping eyes
    on horizon (or maybe a little below) and viewing rocks/roots from
    peripheral vision should be less tiring. It's actually basic running
    form, which I know is sometimes hard to maintain.

    I'm not good at these in my own running, but am trying to improve.
    Someone recently showed me a neat place to practice locally, that I was
    unaware of. He had run one of the same early season races I had and knew
    exactly what I was looking for for training - not quite as many rocks,
    but a reasonable amount of roots and lots of twists where you need to
    pay attention to where trail is going.

    Just a thought.

    Dot

    --
    "So many people get stuck in the routine of life that their dreams waste
    away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Teresa Bippert-Plymate said:

    If you can manage it, try to roll over the nearest shoulder, and
    over. I've been trying to teach myself that for the last several
    years (run a lot of trails and invariably catch a foot once a
    year or so) and it helps a lot to roll. Last time I actually rolled
    all the way over and almost back onto my feet again. Still
    scratched the side of the knees, but much less damage and
    especially, much less damage to the hand. And oddly, try to
    relax once you know you're going down.

    A few years back while riding my bike around town, the front wheel got
    caught between a railroad track and the pavement. Down I went over the
    handlebars. I tucked my right arm into my side with my right hand on my
    upper chest and attempted to make it a roll, but with the bike still
    there I didn't roll that much. I ended up really well bruised or sore
    from my thigh to my shoulder. (Cracked my helmet in 2 places - wear
    those helmets, people.) In hindsight I wondered about what I did and
    thought that I might have been lucky not to dislocate my shoulder. Do
    you know the typical mechanism for shoulder dislocation? Might
    attempting to roll on the shoulder risk dislocation?

  8. Charlie Pendejo said:

    I bet you could really accelerate this learning process, not to mention
    remove much of the pain and scarring, by practicing on a nice soft
    lawn. But is anyone who's not, say, an aspiring stuntman gonna really
    do such a thing?

    when you're skating you can get up to bicycling speeds, but it's a lot
    easier to crash cause those little wheels don't roll over debris and
    bumps so smoothly. eddy matzger wrote an article on avoiding road rash
    where he advocates practicing falling on a grassy surface. i pasted part
    of the article below. anyways, i agree that sometimes one can't roll, it
    depends on the fall, but after skating for several years, i managed to
    condition myself so that when i suddenly was pitching forward thru the
    air, my brain would scream "ROLL" at me automatically- but i never
    actually practiced it myself either 🙂
    http://www.skatecentral.com/public/custom/citysports/fallsafe.html
    Fallsafe
    (CITY SPORTS Magazine - May 1996}
    by Eddy Matzger
    [talking about racing at sea otter]
    In 1992 someone sprawled headlong onto the pavement in the corkscrew
    turn and shaved off a nipple. Amazingly enough, it eventually grew back.
    The racer rebuilt his confidence back up so that he skates the Sea Otter
    again -- a major victory in and of itself-- but he can still be seen
    T-stopping down the steepest sections of the course. Mental scars don't
    grow back so easily.

    This year another competitor couldn't hold the turn at the bottom of the
    corkscrew and plowed through the dirt on the shoulder, ripping a crimson
    patch of flesh on his buttocks and hips. For another 45 minutes he
    braved the course and finished without further mishap. After the race he
    stoically conceded that he'll approach the downhill more conservatively
    next time.

    Falling may be inevitable, but the consequences need not be so adverse.
    I've had plenty of high speed crashes, one of them into a German
    Shepherd who thought he'd zipper out in the road like a squirrel, but
    I've never even managed so much as to scrape myself up badly. The
    reason? I needed a half a unit to graduate from college, so I took a
    gymnastics class. It taught me how to tumble.

    I loved flip-flops and flips most, but dive rolls are what saved my
    skin. at the end of class sometimes, we'd line people up face-down on
    the mats, then get a running start and launch ourselves clear over the
    pile, making sure not to clip the last person as we entered our last
    minute tuck into a forward roll. That forward roll prevented a sure
    face-plant every time. It also helped dissipate the kinetic energy of
    our hurtling bodies.

    Similarly, if you fall on skates, by rolling to a stop you distribute
    the impact more evenly over your whole body. Whereas you may get a few
    minor nicks from rolling to rest, skidding abruptly to a stop
    unnecessarily abrades one primary patch of skin. That's why rolling to a
    stop, while appearing much more dramatic than a simple scrub, is
    infinitely preferable because the consequences are less dire.

    The key to falling is to keep your head. By that I don't mean wear a
    helmet, which is a given. I mean don't lose your head by freaking out
    and freezing like a deer in headlights. Stay relaxed and keep your cool.
    That way, when making a crash landing, you'll remember those dive rolls.
    Stiffening up in anticipation of impact only makes things worse.
    Granted, it's okay for cartoon characters to skid to a stop, but we're
    human and don't bounce back quite so fast.

    By practicing some rolling maneuvers, you're programming your body to
    cope with the eventuality of a fall. Once you do fall and survive it
    with a smile, you'll be much less apt to curtail your skating activities
    as a result. Mastering the art of falling is a tremendous confidence
    booster. Here are a few tips on falling without breaking skin:

    1. When falling on skates, pretend like you've just jumped off a
    speeding train. Look at old movies to see how the stunt men did it. With
    lots of practice it's possible to roll and come up skating, but rolling
    to a stop is the goal of this exercise. Initiate your roll by tucking a
    shoulder, then rotate sideways and keep going until after you've come to
    a stop. By increasing your roll time, you decrease your potential for
    injury. When you get up and brush the dust off of yourself, you'll feel
    like a bandit who has just escaped with his life.

    2. As you enter your roll, try thrusting your arms up over your head and
    roll lengthwise like a hot dog. With fewer protuberances like wrists and
    elbows sticking out, you run less risk of giving your bones bad bonks.
    An alternative to this is to draw the arms into the chest while rolling,
    but this leaves the face more exposed. By holding your arms up over your
    head you shield your ears and create a little roll-cage for your face.

    3. Practice these rolls on a grassy surface first before taking your new
    trick out onto the street. You can start tucking and rolling on the
    grass without skates, and later find a place where there's a nice
    transition between pavement and turf so you can skate into your fall.
    Once you've got this down smoothly you're ready to graduate to some low
    speed tumbles on the hard stuff. Then with all the pads on just in case,
    you can bump it up to a higher speed. Please be careful since I don't
    make house calls

  9. Eek, I can answer that too. In 2000 I crashed my bike and *didn't*
    roll. Instead, I stuck my arm out to brace the fall (instinctually)
    and cracked up my elbow and forearm. I had to have it wired and
    pinned back together. And two surgeries, as my body decided to spit
    the pins back out. After that I did inquire of the local semi-pros
    what they try to do in a fall, and they all said "roll". In biking
    breaking the, uhhh, darn, can't come up with the word....stupid
    middle age!...bone that runs along the top of your shoulders, is
    the most likely thing to happen. Even if you roll you still can
    come down on it with enough force to break, but less likely if you
    roll and use up some of that energy rolling rather than splatting.
    Best idea of course- don't crash! ;-)

    Teresa in AZ

    DadatHome said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Teresa Bippert-Plymate said:

    If you can manage it, try to roll over the nearest shoulder, and
    over. I've been trying to teach myself that for the last several
    years (run a lot of trails and invariably catch a foot once a
    year or so) and it helps a lot to roll. Last time I actually rolled
    all the way over and almost back onto my feet again. Still
    scratched the side of the knees, but much less damage and
    especially, much less damage to the hand. And oddly, try to
    relax once you know you're going down.

    A few years back while riding my bike around town, the front wheel got
    caught between a railroad track and the pavement. Down I went over the
    handlebars. I tucked my right arm into my side with my right hand on my
    upper chest and attempted to make it a roll, but with the bike still
    there I didn't roll that much. I ended up really well bruised or sore
    from my thigh to my shoulder. (Cracked my helmet in 2 places - wear
    those helmets, people.) In hindsight I wondered about what I did and
    thought that I might have been lucky not to dislocate my shoulder. Do
    you know the typical mechanism for shoulder dislocation? Might
    attempting to roll on the shoulder risk dislocation?

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Teresa Bippert-Plymate said:

    Eek, I can answer that too. In 2000 I crashed my bike and *didn't*
    roll. Instead, I stuck my arm out to brace the fall (instinctually)
    and cracked up my elbow and forearm. I had to have it wired and
    pinned back together. And two surgeries, as my body decided to spit
    the pins back out. After that I did inquire of the local semi-pros
    what they try to do in a fall, and they all said "roll". In biking
    breaking the, uhhh, darn, can't come up with the word....stupid
    middle age!...bone that runs along the top of your shoulders, is
    the most likely thing to happen. Even if you roll you still can
    come down on it with enough force to break, but less likely if you
    roll and use up some of that energy rolling rather than splatting.
    Best idea of course- don't crash! ;-)

    Clavicle? Yes I could see that happening. I knew when I fell I didn't
    want to extend my hand out to hit first so tucked my arm into my body. I
    guess the answer is to roll as *best you can* and don't try to stop the
    fall after it's inevitable.

  11. Only a jogger would need help with gravity.

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