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  1. http://vacinfo.org/Viera.htm

    MESSAGE TO THOSE ATTENDING THE CONFERENCE ON AUTISM

    By Viera Scheibner (Principal Research Scientist-retired)

    Kanner described autism for the first time in 1943. At the time, the
    administered vaccines were diphtheria, tetanus and occasional whooping
    cough. Nowadays, babies and small children are given a multitude of
    vaccines besides DPT and Polio: Hib since late 1980's; in the US and
    Australia since early 1990's HepB at birth and more doses at 1 months
    or at two and 4 months later, and, recently in the UK, USA and
    Australia, also meningococcal C and pneumococcal vaccines. I am
    surprised that any babies survive such an assault of toxic substances
    as vaccines are, containing not only a number of foreign proteins
    (antigens) which are bacteria or their protein envelopes and viruses,
    but also adjuvant and tissue fixatives and preservatives. However, no
    babies survive without some deleterious effect, even though most
    parents think that their babies were 'perfectly normal' until the last
    assault by MMR. Their babies had previous reactions, but parents
    believed their doctors that it wa
    s normal and to be expected. MMR was just the last straw that broke
    the camel's back! When I attended the Conference on Autism at the
    Tulane Medical School in New Orleans, I told one of the mother-doctors
    who organized the seminar that her son experienced serious reactions
    to his first vaccines, not just MMR. First she said "No" and then
    when I asked her to have a look at the photos of her child she was
    showing during her lecture (from birth to after MMR), put her hand
    over one eye and have a look where the other is aiming and then change
    hands, she would notice that the child was not focusing properly and
    the color of the eyes changed into pitch black (indicating toxicity).
    Then she admitted that he screamed for 3 days after every DPT, Hib and
    Polio vaccines. I asked her "What do you think he screamed of?" and
    she said she did not know. I told her that he screamed from
    excruciating pain due to brain inflammation. She should have
    prudently stopped any vaccination afte!
    r the first screaming event.

    Animal viruses (the most well-known are the monkey, simian, viruses
    and amoebas in the polio vaccines) contaminate the vaccines because
    most of them are cultured on animals tissue and one does not have to
    be a rocket scientist to realize that animal tissue contains animal
    microorganisms. The amount of toxins, such as mercury exceeds
    manifold what is considered a safe level. There is no safe level for
    formaldehyde. Is it surprising that it was published already in
    1990's that the US infant mortality rates rival those of the Third
    World? As if this was not disconcerting enough, when babies die from
    vaccines, parents and other caregivers are accused of Shaken Baby
    Syndrome (SBS)! Vaccinators not only kill your babies, then they also
    throw you into prison. No thanks for your unquestioning compliance.

    Many parents vaccinate because they are told and hence mistakenly
    believe that infectious diseases represent a surge that has to be
    prevented at ANY price; quite the opposite is true. Infectious
    diseases are beneficial for children by priming and maturing their
    immune system, provided they are properly managed. Complications and
    death may arise if such diseases are mismanaged, by the inappropriate
    administration of antibiotics in a viral disease such as measles; this
    damages the gut flora and suppresses the immune system. Antibiotics
    are useless in a viral disease anyway, even if they worked.

    Relentless suppression of fever (an important healing process) is
    another example of quackery in the orthodox medical system.

    The best treatment in any infectious diseases is sufficiently high
    doses of vitamin C.

    There is also a substantial difference between acquiring measles by an
    unvaccinated healthy child (meaning no vaccines at all, not just MMR)
    and a vaccinated child: vaccinated children often have difficulty
    developing natural immunity and may come down with measles several
    time. Those vaccinated, and only those vaccinated, also may develop
    atypical measles, which is an especially vicious form of measles due
    to immunosuppression by vaccination.

    I observe that even many of those doctors trying to warn of the
    dangers of vaccines, say that they are not against vaccination and
    that they do not want to see those large epidemics of measles, mumps
    and rubella. I urge these doctors to take the time to study what has
    already been documented in medical research about the dangers and
    ineffectiveness of individual vaccines. The only safe vaccine is the
    one never administered.

    The Amish who claim religious exemption to vaccination, did not report
    a single case of measles between 1970 and 1987 (for 18 years!) That
    was the time when the well-vaccinated communities experienced regular
    2-3 year epidemics amongst those who were vaccinated. Then, starting
    in December 1987, the Amish reported large outbreaks of measles
    already in 1982, just when the US health authorities were going to
    pronounce measles eradicated (by 1 October 1982). Obviously,
    infectious diseases have their own dynamics which are not studied,
    because of the morbid preoccupation with vaccination.

    When the individual US states mandated DPT vaccination starting in
    1978, the incidence of whooping cough increased in a sustained manner,
    with the majority of cases occurring between 6 weeks and 6 months and
    in the vaccinated! In contrast to this, when the UK parents stopped
    vaccinating in 1975, it was followed by the longest interepidemic
    period with the lowest incidence of whooping cough on record. When
    the normal 4-year epidemic arrived in 1978 the age distribution
    returned back to normal: the majority of cases occurred in 4 year
    olds. The same happened in Sweden after 1979 when they discontinued
    the use of pertussis vaccine: no incidence below the age of six
    months, with very low incidence below the age of 2 1/2 years and the
    majority of cases occurring between 2 1/2 and 10 years. At that age,
    whooping cough is not a dangerous disease. It is only potentially
    dangerous in small babies.

    When you hear about outbreaks of any 'vaccine-preventable' infectious
    diseases, first ask how many of the 'victims' were vaccinated (you
    will usually hear that most, if not all). In the last four years,
    Australia has been experiencing large outbreaks of whooping cough,
    after our former health minister increased the vaccination compliance
    by unlawful means, by making certain social security payments depend
    on vaccination (even though this can be circumvented when
    'conscientious objection' is lodged; this is an equally questionable
    practice since vaccination is not mandatory in Australia, so why would
    anybody have to claim conscientious objection to it).

    Large epidemics of polio followed mass vaccination drives in Taiwan,
    Oman, Namibia, Gambia, Jordan, Albania and many other countries,
    typically mostly after the first dose. This is all published in the
    Lancet and other reputable medical journals.

    Many medical researchers now admit that a pandemic of such
    immunoreactive disorders as asthma and allergies is caused by too much
    hygiene and mass vaccination programs, but that does not mean that we
    should change these (harmful) health practices. They just fall short
    of saying that infectious diseases are desirable, because having
    measles prevents asthma and other immunoreactive diseases,
    degenerative diseases of bone and cartilage, sebaceous skin diseases
    and certain cancers (as published in the Lancet in 1985). That having
    mumps prevents ovarian cancer, was published already in 1966. That
    rubella vaccination does not prevent congenital rubella syndrome and
    that immunity acquired by having the disease is superior to that
    acquired by vaccination, has been published in Australia and
    elsewhere.

    Babies and small children do not need any vaccines. Individually
    administered, measles, rubella and mumps vaccines are just as harmful
    as given together. Medical Observer published my letter to the editor
    in which I wrote that the best way to know whether MMR causes autism
    or not is to stop using it. Japan admitted the causal link between
    MMR and the OBSERVED side effects such as meningitis and simply
    discontinued MMR vaccination. No epidemics of higher magnitude than
    normal of measles, mumps or rubella followed. There is nothing wrong
    with that. When people tell me that the UK Health Department
    published that so many children then died from measles, I always ask
    "And you believe it?" Vaccinators are capable of publishing not only
    lies, "They publish total lies", as one TV cameraman said.

    Parents believe your own eyes. Sadly, you can't trust doctors who
    can't even see the value of their own research results. One or two
    cases of adverse events after vaccination may be coincidental, but not
    hundreds of thousands of cases all over the vaccine-crazy developed
    world. Do vaccines cause autism? Quite obviously, they do! You have
    seen it with your own eyes and some even video-recorded it. I am
    re-introducing the word OBVIOUS into science. Besides this, there is
    plenty of published research documenting how and why vaccines cause
    autism (and many other deleterious effects): by deranging all systems
    in the body, starting with the immune system. There are many angles
    to approach this problem, but they all point in the same direction.
    Stop vaccinating and you will have healthy and normal children, as
    non-vaccinating parents all over the world will confirm. The only
    people who should get vaccines are the vaccinators. Medical Observer
    published another of my lett
    ers to the editor, in which I challenged an aggressive pro-vaccinator
    to go on TV and to show us how safe vaccines are, by allowing himself
    to be injected with all baby vaccines and either put up put up or
    shout up. He chose to shut up. I told a few prosecutors in the US to
    take their flu injections every year. Tell vaccinators to take their
    own medicine and then watch the horror in their eyes.

  2. Nuts like Scheibner are a millstone around the neck of vaccine safety
    proponents. See how many nonsensical statements you can find in this.

    Peter Moran

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Statement by Dr. Viera Scheibner
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 11/20/2003 12:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Nuts like Scheibner

    Are not members of *organized medicine*

    Nor brain washed.

    http://www.whale.to/vaccines/scheibner.html

    Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.

    Quotes

    Shaken Baby Syndrome Diagnosis On Shaky Ground By Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.

    ADVERSE EFFECTS OF ADJUVANTS IN VACCINES by Viera Scheibner

    AUTISM by Dr Viera Scheibner and Bronwyn Hancock BSc.

    Cot deaths linked to vaccination

    Shaken Baby Syndrome The Vaccine Connection

    Brain Eating Bugs  The Vaccine Connection

    Comments on JAPANESE SIDS REBUTTAL--Viera Scheibner

    TETANUS AND POLIO VACCINES -SOME FACTS FOR PARENTS WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THESE
    DISEASES

    Acellular Whooping Cough Vaccine: Is it safe and effective?  
    http://pages.prodigy.com/gval/viera.htm At Whale

    Testimony, Burton hearings

    Vaccine challenge http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/vaccchallenge.html

    Lecture in Stockholm http://www.alphaomega.se/english/vaccination.html

    Books: 
    Vaccination  100 Years of Orthodox Research shows that Vaccines Represent a
    Medical Assault on the Immune System--Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.  (UK: Minerva
    Books.0171 385 1361)

    Behavioural Problems in Childhood: The Link to Vaccination--Viera Scheibner,
    Ph.D. ISBN 0957800703
    This book intends to give a brief insight into the modern scourge of
    children--the behavoural problems.  They occur with alarming increasing
    frequency in initially normal babies, and mysteriously always after, not
    before, those first shots.

    Video

    Video lecture (UK: Whale Books 01981 240 125)

    [Vaccination]

    http://www.neue-medizin.com/viera.htm

    http://www.internationalsymposium.co.uk/biovs.htm

    Dr Viera Scheibner is a retired Principal Research Scientist with a doctorate
    in Natural Sciences. During her distinguished career she published three books
    and some 90 scientific papers. Her interest in vaccination began in the mid
    1980s when her research into baby’s breathing patterns were clearly pointing
    to vaccines as being behind the majority of cot deaths. Since then she has
    studied over 100000 pages of medical research. In her book "Vaccination", she
    argues that 100 years of orthodox research shows that vaccines represent a
    medical assault on the immune system. She recently released a new book called
    "Behavioural Problems in Childhood – the Link to Vaccination".

  4. (Jan) said:

    AUTISM by Dr Viera Scheibner and Bronwyn Hancock BSc.

    A simple question for you, Jan. Bronwyn Hancock says that it is
    IMPOSSIBLE to harm a baby by shaking it, no matter how hard the shake
    is.

    Is she correct?

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Statement by Dr. Viera Scheibner
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 11/20/2003 4:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:

    AUTISM by Dr Viera Scheibner and Bronwyn Hancock BSc.

    A simple question for you, Jan

    Simple one for you, remains unanswered.

    That's the third time today that I have seen Jan make this claim about

    Quoted message said:

    someone. I assume the doctor who is still on staff after committing
    fraud, cover-ups and wrong-doing is Dr Kadile

    Un huh. That would be a lie, Peter.

    Quoted message said:

    and I am sure that Dr
    Moran has mentioned him.

    To be sure. However he just can't see it when it comes from conventional
    medicine.

    Did De Kadile kill a patient??

    I didn't think so.

    Did Dr Wilson kill a patient??

    Yep. How come he remains on staff when it was proven he committed fraud
    cover-ups and kept secrets from the patient and his family??

    Do tell us why the difference. Peter??

    Still waiting.

    Jan

  6. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Statement by Dr. Viera Scheibner
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 11/20/2003 4:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:

    AUTISM by Dr Viera Scheibner and Bronwyn Hancock BSc.

    A simple question for you, Jan

    Simple one for you, remains unanswered.

    Note where Jan did not mention the question that she snipped. Here it
    is again:

    ---------------------------
    A simple question for you, Jan. Bronwyn Hancock says that it is
    IMPOSSIBLE to harm a baby by shaking it, no matter how hard the shake
    is.

    Is she correct?
    --------------------------

    The she starts diverting by mentioning some called "Kadile" in a
    thread about someone called "Scheibner".

    Quoted message said:

    That's the third time today that I have seen Jan make this claim about

    Quoted message said:

    someone. I assume the doctor who is still on staff after committing
    fraud, cover-ups and wrong-doing is Dr Kadile

    Un huh. That would be a lie, Peter.

    Please explain how my making an allusion is a lie, Jan.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I am sure that Dr
    Moran has mentioned him.

    To be sure. However he just can't see it when it comes from conventional
    medicine.

    Did De Kadile kill a patient??

    I have no idea. Does a crooked doctor have to kill someone before you
    care?

    Can you kill a baby by shaking it, Jan? As far as I know, Dr Kadile
    was just practising quackery and was not making any comments about
    shaken baby syndrome. He has been accused of medical malpractice, not
    murder.

    Quoted message said:

    I didn't think so.

    Did Dr Wilson kill a patient??

    Is Dr Wilson a colleague of Dr Scheibner? If not, why is he being
    mentioned here. Is this just another diversion?

    Quoted message said:

    Yep. How come he remains on staff when it was proven he committed fraud
    cover-ups and kept secrets from the patient and his family??

    Do tell us why the difference. Peter??

    It's really easy. Dr Sheibner is a paleontologist who spends her time
    lying to parents about vaccines. She is the subject of this thread.
    She lives in Australia.

    The only Dr Kadile I know of is a doctor under investigation for
    administering the wrong drugs. As far as anyone knows, he is not
    opposed to vaccination and therefore discussion of his case is
    irrelevant to any discussion of not-a-medical Dr Scheibner's dangerous
    fantasies. He does not live in Australia.

    There are many doctors named Wilson as it is a common name. I know of
    no Dr Wilson, either on staff or off it, who works with Dr Scheibner,
    the subject of this thread.

    Quoted message said:

    Still waiting.

    No need to wait any longer, as I have now answered your questions.

    So, to repeat:

    A simple question for you, Jan. Bronwyn Hancock says that it is
    IMPOSSIBLE to harm a baby by shaking it, no matter how hard the shake
    is.

    Is she correct?

    A non-answer to this question or a diversion will be taken as your
    agreement with Bronwyn Hancock. Agreement with Bronwyn Hancock marks a
    person for life as someone who is prepared to tolerate murder if the
    murder can be used to try to prevent vaccination. She is seriously
    mad, as is apparent to any sentient being. When I wrote to her to ask
    if she went to children's funerals to laugh, she lied to me that there
    was scientific evidence which proved the impossibility of harming a
    baby by shaking it. Do you want to be known as someone who believes
    this?

    Is there anything you won't believe if it comes from someone who is
    outside eeeeevil organised medicine (if such a thing even existed)?

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  7. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Statement by Dr. Viera Scheibner
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 11/20/2003 12:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id:

    <[email hidden].


    au>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Nuts like Scheibner

    Are not members of *organized medicine*

    True. *organized medicine* has high standards for admission, and she just
    does not come up to snuff.

    Quoted message said:

    Nor brain washed.

    True. There is nothing to wash. (That is why you, Jan Drew, are not brain
    washed.)

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.whale.to/vaccines/scheibner.html

    Now, that IS an authority. NOT!

    humor deleted

  8. Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    AUTISM by Dr Viera Scheibner and Bronwyn Hancock BSc.

    A simple question for you, Jan. Bronwyn Hancock says that it is
    IMPOSSIBLE to harm a baby by shaking it, no matter how hard the shake
    is.

    Is she correct?

    --
    Peter Bowditch

    I thought I'd repost the question in case Jan has chosen to pretend that she
    has kill-filed Peter.

  9. (Ilsa9) said:
    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    AUTISM by Dr Viera Scheibner and Bronwyn Hancock BSc.

    A simple question for you, Jan. Bronwyn Hancock says that it is
    IMPOSSIBLE to harm a baby by shaking it, no matter how hard the shake
    is.

    Is she correct?

    --
    Peter Bowditch

    I thought I'd repost the question in case Jan has chosen to pretend that she
    has kill-filed Peter.

    Jan already answered the question. She said she does not know. I guess
    none of the babies that Jan shook died so to her it is a moot question
    since her personal experience has not been sufficient to answer the
    question definitively.

    Aloha,
    Rich

    ------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance.

  10. In said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Statement by Dr. Viera Scheibner
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 11/20/2003 4:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:

    AUTISM by Dr Viera Scheibner and Bronwyn Hancock BSc.

    A simple question for you, Jan

    Simple one for you, remains unanswered.

    You snipped the question. I'll restore it:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A simple question for you, Jan. Bronwyn Hancock says that it is
    IMPOSSIBLE to harm a baby by shaking it, no matter how hard the shake
    is.

    Now, in all your years of child care, you've become
    the world's greatest expert on ADHD, autism, vaccines,
    and several other child-care issues. Surely, with all
    your experience, you know whether it's possible to
    harm one by shaking?

    --
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  11. In 1942, no one rode on commercial jets either. Does that mean vaccines
    caused commercial jet flights?

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jeff said:

    In 1942, no one rode on commercial jets either. Does that mean vaccines
    caused commercial jet flights?

    Yes, and the good folks at Boeing are damned glad of it, I'll have you
    know.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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