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Ginseng safety

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  1. In its approximate 5,000 years of know usage, ginseng has shown itself as a
    gentle but highly useful herb. There are no proven negative side effects
    from its usage. The USDA classifies ginseng as GRAS (Genrally Recognized
    As Safe).

    In his book "Ginseng: A Concise Handbook", Dr. James Duke, now retired,
    former head of the Herbal Testing Laboratory for the United States
    Department of Agriculture, lists seven of the major ginsenosides in ginseng.
    These are some of the bioactive components in the plant. He notes that
    all seven have lower toxicity levels than caffiene.

    Absolutely everything we eat is toxic to a degree. If we go to extreme
    excess, we can die from ingesting too much of anything including such things
    as potatoes and even drinking water. Yes it seems somewhat ridiculous to
    think of being killed by the normal food we eat. Ingesting ginseng isn't
    much different.

    Specific individuals in various places around the world have very unusual
    allergies. A few people have allergic reactions to tomatoes, wheat, eggs
    to name a few. Likewise, someone somewhere might be allergic to ginseng,
    although we have never heard of it. At any rate, the possibility is quite
    remote.

    Some years back, JAMA,the Journal of the American Medical Association,
    reported a seriously flawed study concerning excessive coffee drinking
    coupled with excessive ginseng use. The supposed result from that was
    the subjects were over-stimulated, stressed-out. The mythical "ginseng
    abuse syndrome" was created.

    This was an exceedingly sloppy study. The researchers were particulary
    errant in that they never documented how much of the caffienated coffee the
    individuals consumed. Neither did they document how much and what kind of
    ginseng the subjects were using. In all liklihood, the excessive amount
    of coffee alone was responsible for any over-stimulation. The results of
    that study were later refuted. For a small fee, the American Botanical
    Council sells a pamphlet called "Debunking the Ginseng Abuse Syndrome."
    It is worth reading. It is quite telling that today, if you search the
    World Wide Web, you will find several companies selling coffee with ginseng
    added to it.

    It has been reported that consuming large amounts of ginseng can cause
    diarrhea. Ginseng is a powerful detoxifier that can cause
    diarrhea for a short time as the means of eliminating toxins.
    If, and we say "IF" it is true, the amount of ginseng necessary, would make
    it a very costly experience.

    Scientific studies suggest that ginseng may act to some degree as a blood
    thinner - desirable for many of us. If we were taking a Rx blood thinner
    such as Warfarin, we would certainly want our doctor to be aware of our
    ginseng usage and to monitor our blood closely as a precaution. Also, if
    we had high blood pressure, we would check that pressure frequently if we
    were using oriental ginseng. There is some evidence that suggests that
    frequent use of oriental ginseng may increase one's blood pressure for a
    brief time as a result of the detoxification process.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Ginseng safety
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 10/8/2003 1:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Scientific studies suggest that ginseng may act to some degree as a blood
    thinner - desirable for many of us.

    Quoted message said:

    If we were taking a Rx blood thinner
    such as Warfarin, we would certainly want our doctor to be aware of our
    ginseng usage and to monitor our blood closely as a precaution. Also, if
    we had high blood pressure, we would check that pressure frequently if we

    Quoted message said:

    were using oriental ginseng. There is some evidence that suggests that
    frequent use of oriental ginseng may increase one's blood pressure for a
    brief time as a result of the detoxification process.

    hmmmm....just this morning you defined "adaptogen" as an herb that either
    lowers...or raises...depending upon the problem..ie blood pressure,,blood
    sugar..now surely if one WAS on a blood thinner,,,one would think that ginseng
    would PREVENT excess anticoagulation??
    based on your adaptogen bs....

    if you were smart enuf..or smart at all...you would have noticed that these
    statements contradict each other....

    nah....you are definitely not smart enuf

    in fact you are so pathetic that with each post you dig yourself a deeper
    hole...even the above....which I would think came from MLM 101....like
    Jan...you don't have enuf scientific knowledge to know that posting the above
    makes your previous "copy and paste jobs" contradictiory

    hawki

  3. Dave the Spammer said:

    It has been reported that consuming large amounts of ginseng can
    cause diarrhea. Ginseng is a powerful detoxifier that can cause
    diarrhea for a short time as the means of eliminating toxins.

    Of course, if there are toxins in the ginseng itself,
    then you're in REAL trouble.

    Quoted message said:

    If, and we say "IF" it is true, the amount of ginseng necessary,
    would make it a very costly experience.

    Especially if you buy it through a multi-level marketing
    scheme.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    Specific individuals in various places around the world have very unusual
    allergies. A few people have allergic reactions to tomatoes, wheat, eggs
    to name a few. Likewise, someone somewhere might be allergic to ginseng,
    although we have never heard of it. At any rate, the possibility is quite
    remote.

    More than "a few" and ginseng allergies are well-documented in the
    medical literature.

    <other folderol about "detoxification" deleted>

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