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  1. What to do if your physician can't figure out what to do.

    http://www.curezone.com/f/m.asp?f=270&i=33

  2. Quoted message said:

    What to do if your physician can't figure out what to do.

    http://www.AssHoleZone.com/f/m.asp?f=270&i=33

    "In my opinion, if you are finding reasons to need to keep changing doctors,
    perhaps you should consider changing to a different "kind" of doctor.
    Physicians have limited abilities to deal with diseases and conditions.
    (W)holistic practitioners are trained in disciplines designed specifically to
    restore your health. There are many different types of alternative practices. I
    would recommend, from my personal experience (Dave's Story) that you find a
    (w)holistic doctor or a doctor of natural medicine who posseses psychic
    abilities. An effective process is to use Iridology to identify (and track
    progress) disease and conditions before the symptoms have appeared in you and
    utilize natural supplements and therapies to erradicate the problem."

    Check it out, folks, Spamming Dave's Quack of choice has "powerful psychic
    abilities"!!!!

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! He's in league with Satan, and worse, Jan Drew.

  3. Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes their
    country into wars for no reason.
    Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What to do if your physician can't figure out what to do.

    http://www.AssHoleZone.com/f/m.asp?f=270&i=33

    "In my opinion, if you are finding reasons to need to keep changing


    doctors,

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps you should consider changing to a different "kind" of doctor.
    Physicians have limited abilities to deal with diseases and conditions.
    (W)holistic practitioners are trained in disciplines designed specifically


    to

    Quoted message said:

    restore your health. There are many different types of alternative


    practices. I

    Quoted message said:

    would recommend, from my personal experience (Dave's Story) that you find


    a

    Quoted message said:

    (w)holistic doctor or a doctor of natural medicine who posseses psychic
    abilities. An effective process is to use Iridology to identify (and track
    progress) disease and conditions before the symptoms have appeared in you


    and

    Quoted message said:

    utilize natural supplements and therapies to erradicate the problem."

    Check it out, folks, Spamming Dave's Quack of choice has "powerful psychic
    abilities"!!!!

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! He's in league with Satan, and worse, Jan Drew.

  4. Quoted message said:

    Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes their
    country into wars for no reason.
    Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    Anth

    What does your childish assessment of Bush & Blair have to do with Spamming
    Dave's belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact that
    Jan considers such to be "in league with the devil"?

    Really, Anth, you are making a strong case for Vitamin C induced psychosis.

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What to do if your physician can't figure out what to do.

    http://www.AssHoleZone.com/f/m.asp?f=270&i=33

    "In my opinion, if you are finding reasons to need to keep changing


    doctors,

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps you should consider changing to a different "kind" of doctor.
    Physicians have limited abilities to deal with diseases and conditions.
    (W)holistic practitioners are trained in disciplines designed specifically


    to

    Quoted message said:

    restore your health. There are many different types of alternative


    practices. I

    Quoted message said:

    would recommend, from my personal experience (Dave's Story) that you find


    a

    Quoted message said:

    (w)holistic doctor or a doctor of natural medicine who posseses psychic
    abilities. An effective process is to use Iridology to identify (and track
    progress) disease and conditions before the symptoms have appeared in you


    and

    Quoted message said:

    utilize natural supplements and therapies to erradicate the problem."

    Check it out, folks, Spamming Dave's Quack of choice has "powerful psychic
    abilities"!!!!

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! He's in league with Satan, and worse, Jan Drew.

  5. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes


    their

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    country into wars for no reason.
    Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    Anth

    Your assessment of Bush & Blair is a powerful parallel with Dave's psychic


    powers.
    Really, Anth, you are teaching me new things that I desperately needed to
    know to
    try and deal wth my psychosis.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >What to do if your physician can't figure out what to do.
    >
    >http://www.AssHoleZone.com/f/m.asp?f=270&i=33

    "In my opinion, if you are finding reasons to need to keep changing


    doctors,

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps you should consider changing to a different "kind" of doctor.
    Physicians have limited abilities to deal with diseases and conditions.
    (W)holistic practitioners are trained in disciplines designed


    specifically

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    restore your health. There are many different types of alternative


    practices. I

    Quoted message said:

    would recommend, from my personal experience (Dave's Story) that you


    find

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    (w)holistic doctor or a doctor of natural medicine who posseses psychic
    abilities. An effective process is to use Iridology to identify (and


    track

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    progress) disease and conditions before the symptoms have appeared in


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and

    Quoted message said:

    utilize natural supplements and therapies to erradicate the problem."

    Check it out, folks, Spamming Dave's Quack of choice has "powerful


    psychic

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    abilities"!!!!

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! He's in league with Satan, and worse, Jan Drew.

  6. Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes


    their

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    country into wars for no reason.
    Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    Anth

    Your assessment of Bush & Blair is a powerful parallel with Dave's psychic


    powers.

    Quoted message said:

    Really, Anth, you are teaching me new things that I desperately needed to
    know to
    try and deal wth my psychosis.

    Well, Spamming Dave, there may be hope for a Steaming, Spamming bag of Feces
    like yourself. At least you have finally acknowledged, publically, that you
    are psychotic. The first step is to admit that you have a problem. For you,
    the second step is to pound 2000 metric tons of glass shards and contaminated
    Ginseng up your ass.

    Get back to us after you have completed step two.

  7. I'm referring to the fact that Bush believes in the supernatural.
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes


    their

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    country into wars for no reason.
    Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    Anth

    What does your childish assessment of Bush & Blair have to do with


    Spamming

    Quoted message said:

    Dave's belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact


    that

    Quoted message said:

    Jan considers such to be "in league with the devil"?

    Really, Anth, you are making a strong case for Vitamin C induced


    psychosis.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >What to do if your physician can't figure out what to do.
    >
    >http://www.AssHoleZone.com/f/m.asp?f=270&i=33

    "In my opinion, if you are finding reasons to need to keep changing


    doctors,

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps you should consider changing to a different "kind" of doctor.
    Physicians have limited abilities to deal with diseases and conditions.
    (W)holistic practitioners are trained in disciplines designed


    specifically

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    restore your health. There are many different types of alternative


    practices. I

    Quoted message said:

    would recommend, from my personal experience (Dave's Story) that you


    find

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    (w)holistic doctor or a doctor of natural medicine who posseses psychic
    abilities. An effective process is to use Iridology to identify (and


    track

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    progress) disease and conditions before the symptoms have appeared in


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and

    Quoted message said:

    utilize natural supplements and therapies to erradicate the problem."

    Check it out, folks, Spamming Dave's Quack of choice has "powerful


    psychic

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    abilities"!!!!

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! He's in league with Satan, and worse, Jan Drew.

  8. Quoted message said:

    I'm referring to the fact that Bush believes in the supernatural.
    Anth

    Supposing he believes in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, and the boogey man,
    what does that have to do with Spamming Dave (the Soulless Reprobate) and his
    belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact that Jan, who
    considers this Satanic, and the fact that she won't apply her uniform
    prejudices against a fellow alt?

    Really, Anth, you do have brief glimmers of sanity & reason, why must you
    abandon them at every turn?

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes


    their

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    country into wars for no reason.
    Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    Anth

    What does your childish assessment of Bush & Blair have to do with


    Spamming

    Quoted message said:

    Dave's belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact


    that

    Quoted message said:

    Jan considers such to be "in league with the devil"?

    Really, Anth, you are making a strong case for Vitamin C induced


    psychosis.

    Quoted message said:
  9. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm referring to the fact that Bush believes in the supernatural.
    Anth

    Supposing he believes in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, and the boogey


    man,

    Quoted message said:

    what does that have to do with Spamming Dave (the Soulless Reprobate) and


    his

    Quoted message said:

    belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact that


    Jan, who

    Quoted message said:

    considers this Satanic, and the fact that she won't apply her uniform
    prejudices against a fellow alt?

    Psychic abilities aren't founded in a belief system they are a gift that
    exists. A belief
    system is like your belief in the tooth fairy, etc. Still doesn't make it
    exist.

    Quoted message said:

    Really, Anth, you do have brief glimmers of sanity & reason, why must you
    abandon them at every turn?

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes


    their

    Quoted message said:

    >country into wars for no reason.
    >Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    >Anth

    What does your childish assessment of Bush & Blair have to do with


    Spamming

    Quoted message said:

    Dave's belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the


    fact

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that

    Quoted message said:

    Jan considers such to be "in league with the devil"?

    Really, Anth, you are making a strong case for Vitamin C induced


    psychosis.

    Quoted message said:
  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    Psychic abilities aren't founded in a belief system they are a gift that
    exists.

    Really? What is the evidence that they exist?

    Quoted message said:

    A belief
    system is like your belief in the tooth fairy, etc. Still doesn't make it
    exist.

    Exactly like belief in psychic abilities.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  11. 1st I am probably more sane than you.
    2nd the rest speaks for itself...
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm referring to the fact that Bush believes in the supernatural.
    Anth

    Supposing he believes in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, and the boogey


    man,

    Quoted message said:

    what does that have to do with Spamming Dave (the Soulless Reprobate) and


    his

    Quoted message said:

    belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact that


    Jan, who

    Quoted message said:

    considers this Satanic, and the fact that she won't apply her uniform
    prejudices against a fellow alt?

    Really, Anth, you do have brief glimmers of sanity & reason, why must you
    abandon them at every turn?

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >Bush & Blair are in league with the supernatural also, and they takes


    their

    Quoted message said:

    >country into wars for no reason.
    >Well the reason is there, but people can't prove it.
    >Anth

    What does your childish assessment of Bush & Blair have to do with


    Spamming

    Quoted message said:

    Dave's belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the


    fact

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that

    Quoted message said:

    Jan considers such to be "in league with the devil"?

    Really, Anth, you are making a strong case for Vitamin C induced


    psychosis.

    Quoted message said:
  12. Quoted message said:

    1st I am probably more sane than you.

    I'm sure that you, like any card-carry mental patient, feel that YOU are sane
    and anyone that takes a position contrary to you is insane. This is clearly
    evidenced by how you cling to the specious belief that scurvy is a genetic
    disease. You think the entire medical establishment is crazy, but you and Dr
    Rath are sane. QED.

    Quoted message said:

    2nd the rest speaks for itself...
    Anth

    Secondly, your bringing up Blair & Bush is called a Strawman, which is a
    logical fallacy. If it weren't for logical fallacies, you'd never have
    anything related to logic in your thoughts or posts.

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm referring to the fact that Bush believes in the supernatural.
    Anth

    Supposing he believes in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, and the boogey


    man,

    Quoted message said:

    what does that have to do with Spamming Dave (the Soulless Reprobate) and


    his

    Quoted message said:

    belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact that


    Jan, who

    Quoted message said:

    considers this Satanic, and the fact that she won't apply her uniform
    prejudices against a fellow alt?

    Really, Anth, you do have brief glimmers of sanity & reason, why must you
    abandon them at every turn?

  13. Quoted message said:

    llsa the 'Read with me Barny ABC wonk psychologist' wrote
    I'm sure that you, like any card-carry mental patient, feel that YOU are


    sane

    Quoted message said:

    and anyone that takes a position contrary to you is insane. This is


    clearly

    Quoted message said:

    evidenced by how you cling to the specious belief that scurvy is a genetic
    disease. You think the entire medical establishment is crazy, but you and


    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Rath are sane. QED.

    Dr Rath is so 'insane' that he gets people to buy his vitamins then does
    expensive clinical trials.
    He was also uncovered the pharm's for what they are

    (I can even post your answers to his if you want they are so wooden and
    repeated over and over again?)

    http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/health_movement_against_codex/health_movement11.htm.

    I also say that Scurvy as CVD is being double blinded all around the world,
    so we shall soon know if it is the cause for CVD.
    I don't think they whole medical establishment is crazy, but I do think a
    lot of them are misguided.
    As for your strawman, If Bush and Blair can lead a whole country into war,
    then a few pharm cartels can lead the doctors also.

    Quoted message said:

    Secondly, your bringing up Blair & Bush is called a Strawman, which is a
    logical fallacy. If it weren't for logical fallacies, you'd never have
    anything related to logic in your thoughts or posts.

    Incorrect <see my point above>

    Medicine was responsible for the deaths of both my parents, until medicine
    kills one of your family with their 'accidents,' then you live in your
    little bubble and enjoy life. "They save lives also?" Try telling that to
    the dead people...
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1st I am probably more sane than you.

    I'm sure that you, like any card-carry mental patient, feel that YOU are


    sane

    Quoted message said:

    and anyone that takes a position contrary to you is insane. This is


    clearly

    Quoted message said:

    evidenced by how you cling to the specious belief that scurvy is a genetic
    disease. You think the entire medical establishment is crazy, but you and


    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Rath are sane. QED.

    Quoted message said:

    2nd the rest speaks for itself...
    Anth

    Secondly, your bringing up Blair & Bush is called a Strawman, which is a
    logical fallacy. If it weren't for logical fallacies, you'd never have
    anything related to logic in your thoughts or posts.

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >I'm referring to the fact that Bush believes in the supernatural.
    >Anth

    Supposing he believes in the tooth fairy, easter bunny, and the boogey


    man,

    Quoted message said:

    what does that have to do with Spamming Dave (the Soulless Reprobate)


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his

    Quoted message said:

    belief in psychic healing? What does it have to do with the fact that


    Jan, who

    Quoted message said:

    considers this Satanic, and the fact that she won't apply her uniform
    prejudices against a fellow alt?

    Really, Anth, you do have brief glimmers of sanity & reason, why must


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    abandon them at every turn?

  14. llsa http://www.dr-rath-vitamins.com/
    Maybe you should add a litle niacin to your diet also.
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

  15. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Changing Doctors
    From: "Anth" [email hidden]
    Date: 10/8/2003 5:58 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    llsa the 'Read with me Barny ABC wonk psychologist' wrote
    I'm sure that you, like any card-carry mental patient, feel that YOU are


    sane

    Quoted message said:

    and anyone that takes a position contrary to you is insane. This is


    clearly

    Quoted message said:

    evidenced by how you cling to the specious belief that scurvy is a genetic
    disease. You think the entire medical establishment is crazy, but you and


    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Rath are sane. QED.

    Dr Rath is so 'insane' that he gets people to buy his vitamins then does
    expensive clinical trials.
    He was also uncovered the pharm's for what they are

    (I can even post your answers to his if you want they are so wooden and
    repeated over and over again?)

    http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/health_movemen


    t_against_codex/health_movement11.htm.

    Quoted message said:


    I also say that Scurvy as CVD is being double blinded all around the world,
    so we shall soon know if it is the cause for CVD.
    I don't think they whole medical establishment is crazy, but I do think a
    lot of them are misguided.
    As for your strawman, If Bush and Blair can lead a whole country into war,
    then a few pharm cartels can lead the doctors also.

    Quoted message said:

    Secondly, your bringing up Blair & Bush is called a Strawman, which is a
    logical fallacy. If it weren't for logical fallacies, you'd never have
    anything related to logic in your thoughts or posts.

    Incorrect <see my point above>

    Medicine was responsible for the deaths of both my parents, until medicine
    kills one of your family with their 'accidents,' then you live in your
    little bubble and enjoy life. "They save lives also?" Try telling that to
    the dead people...
    Anth

    Sorry Anth, I knw about you Mom, but both parents, that is really sad. Of
    course Andrew is so calloused with hate, it is impossible for him to
    understand.

    Jan

  16. Quoted message said:

    llsa http://www.dr-rath-vitamins.com/
    Maybe you should add a litle niacin to your diet also.
    Anth

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Anth, don't hate me because I'm healthy and beautiful, hate me because you and
    Jan aren't.

  17. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    llsa the 'Read with me Barny ABC wonk psychologist' wrote

    What does "wonk" mean? My British is a bit rusty.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure that you, like any card-carry mental patient, feel that YOU are


    sane

    Quoted message said:

    and anyone that takes a position contrary to you is insane. This is


    clearly

    Quoted message said:

    evidenced by how you cling to the specious belief that scurvy is a genetic
    disease. You think the entire medical establishment is crazy, but you and


    Dr

    Quoted message said:

    Rath are sane. QED.

    Dr Rath is so 'insane' that he gets people to buy his vitamins then does
    expensive clinical trials.
    He was also uncovered the pharm's for what they are

    Let me let you in on a little secret, Anth. The pharmaceutical companies are
    multinational corporations that research and develop.....(wait for
    it).....Pharmaceuticals, Vitamins, and supplements.
    Remember that pharm companies are the largest producers of vitamins. I guess
    they are pushing alt-med!

    Quoted message said:

    I also say that Scurvy as CVD is being double blinded all around the world,
    so we shall soon know if it is the cause for CVD.

    You mean that CVD is a genetic disorder affecting 100% of the population?
    After all, you have said that scurvy is a genetic disorder that affects 100% of
    the population.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think they whole medical establishment is crazy, but I do think a
    lot of them are misguided.

    Humans are prone to such. That's why we use science to eliminate observer
    bias, economic motives, and random acts of stupidity.

    Quoted message said:

    As for your strawman, If Bush and Blair can lead a whole country into war,
    then a few pharm cartels can lead the doctors also.

    You have a penchant for Strawmen. It would seem that you fancy the Scarecrow
    from the Wizard of Oz.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Secondly, your bringing up Blair & Bush is called a Strawman, which is a
    logical fallacy. If it weren't for logical fallacies, you'd never have
    anything related to logic in your thoughts or posts.

    Incorrect <see my point above>

    Nope. You are clearly affected with Strawmanitis. This is a genetic disorder
    affecting over 50% of the pro-alt population....along with somatic
    hypervigilism.

    Quoted message said:

    Medicine was responsible for the deaths of both my parents, until medicine
    kills one of your family with their 'accidents,' then you live in your
    little bubble and enjoy life.

    Obviously, you have hard feelings toward the doctors in the case of your
    parents. As I'm not privvy to the specifics and really not in the position to
    determine malpractice, I'm not able to determine what happened. As I've said
    before, I do feel for your loss, whether or not you believe me. I know that
    MD's make mistakes and those mistakes are sometimes fatal. If such an
    occurence happened to them, do as Hawki suggested. She mentioned to you
    something about your mother's situation. Perhaps there was bona-fide
    malpractice. Perhaps not.

    Its really sweet of you to wish medical malpractice on me and my family. I
    guess you really acquired lots of empathy and put your heart in the right place
    as a result of playing martyr. Your malediction is nothing short of heroic,
    heartwarming, and exactly what your parents would have wanted.

    FWIW, my parent's lives have been saved by EEEEEEEEEEeeeeevil
    Oooooooooooorrrrrrganized Medicine on more than one occasion each. I guess
    that will haunt you and Jan as you both seem to feel that it runs contrary to
    the intentions of the medical profession.

    Quoted message said:

    "They save lives also?" Try telling that to
    the dead people...
    Anth

    Oh, so if they can't save everyone, all the time, they should just hand out
    Vitamin C, administer enemas, and wear sack-cloth.

  18. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    llsa the 'Read with me Barny ABC wonk psychologist' wrote

    What does "wonk" mean? My British is a bit rusty.


    www.dictionary.com

    wonk <=> llsa

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    I'm sure that you, like any card-carry mental patient, feel that YOU


    are

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    sane

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    and anyone that takes a position contrary to you is insane. This is


    clearly

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    evidenced by how you cling to the specious belief that scurvy is a


    genetic

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    disease. You think the entire medical establishment is crazy, but you


    and

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    Dr

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    Rath are sane. QED.

    Dr Rath is so 'insane' that he gets people to buy his vitamins then does
    expensive clinical trials.
    He was also uncovered the pharm's for what they are

    Let me let you in on a little secret, Anth. The pharmaceutical companies


    are

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    multinational corporations that research and develop.....(wait for
    it).....Pharmaceuticals, Vitamins, and supplements.
    Remember that pharm companies are the largest producers of vitamins. I


    guess

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    they are pushing alt-med!

    I am aware of that - they can make more money out of disease than prevent
    it.

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    I also say that Scurvy as CVD is being double blinded all around the


    world,

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    so we shall soon know if it is the cause for CVD.

    You mean that CVD is a genetic disorder affecting 100% of the population?
    After all, you have said that scurvy is a genetic disorder that affects


    100% of

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    the population.

    If you are talking on the basis that CVD is scurvy and us as humans cannot
    make vitamin C then a big yes!
    You got it!

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    I don't think they whole medical establishment is crazy, but I do think a
    lot of them are misguided.

    Humans are prone to such. That's why we use science to eliminate observer
    bias, economic motives, and random acts of stupidity.

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    As for your strawman, If Bush and Blair can lead a whole country into


    war,

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    then a few pharm cartels can lead the doctors also.

    You have a penchant for Strawmen. It would seem that you fancy the


    Scarecrow

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    from the Wizard of Oz.

    heh to be honest I'm not that way inclined, I prefer Dorothy.

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    Secondly, your bringing up Blair & Bush is called a Strawman, which is


    a

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    logical fallacy. If it weren't for logical fallacies, you'd never have
    anything related to logic in your thoughts or posts.

    Incorrect <see my point above>

    Nope. You are clearly affected with Strawmanitis. This is a genetic


    disorder

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    affecting over 50% of the pro-alt population....along with somatic
    hypervigilism.

    Says who the one who lives in a bubble and dances with imaginary bubble men?

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    Medicine was responsible for the deaths of both my parents, until


    medicine

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    kills one of your family with their 'accidents,' then you live in your
    little bubble and enjoy life.

    Obviously, you have hard feelings toward the doctors in the case of your
    parents. As I'm not privvy to the specifics and really not in the


    position to

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    determine malpractice, I'm not able to determine what happened. As I've


    said

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    before, I do feel for your loss, whether or not you believe me. I know


    that

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    MD's make mistakes and those mistakes are sometimes fatal. If such an
    occurence happened to them, do as Hawki suggested. She mentioned to you
    something about your mother's situation. Perhaps there was bona-fide
    malpractice. Perhaps not.

    Its really sweet of you to wish medical malpractice on me and my family.


    I

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    guess you really acquired lots of empathy and put your heart in the right


    place

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    as a result of playing martyr. Your malediction is nothing short of


    heroic,

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    heartwarming, and exactly what your parents would have wanted.

    FWIW, my parent's lives have been saved by EEEEEEEEEEeeeeevil
    Oooooooooooorrrrrrganized Medicine on more than one occasion each. I


    guess

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    that will haunt you and Jan as you both seem to feel that it runs contrary


    to

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    the intentions of the medical profession.

    Like I say "bugger you jack I'm alright"

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    "They save lives also?" Try telling that to
    the dead people...
    Anth

    Oh, so if they can't save everyone, all the time, they should just hand


    out

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    Vitamin C, administer enemas, and wear sack-cloth.

    So.... for your profile,
    Anth is an undereducated not too well heterosexual hypochondriac who carries
    a penchant for being [censored] a lot, caused by Doctoritus.

    Love
    Anth

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    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

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    > llsa the 'Read with me Barny ABC wonk psychologist' wrote

    What does "wonk" mean? My British is a bit rusty.


    www.dictionary.com

    wonk <=> llsa

    If wonk means Ilsa, then your intro line was quite redundant.

    Quoted message said:
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    Let me let you in on a little secret, Anth. The pharmaceutical companies


    are

    Quoted message said:

    multinational corporations that research and develop.....(wait for
    it).....Pharmaceuticals, Vitamins, and supplements.
    Remember that pharm companies are the largest producers of vitamins. I


    guess

    Quoted message said:

    they are pushing alt-med!

    I am aware of that - they can make more money out of disease than prevent
    it.

    You mean that pushing vitamins and supplements is a way of profiteering off of
    disease as opposed to preventing it? Curious, your line of reasoning is.

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    Quoted message said:
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    I also say that Scurvy as CVD is being double blinded all around the


    world,

    Quoted message said:
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    so we shall soon know if it is the cause for CVD.

    You mean that CVD is a genetic disorder affecting 100% of the population?
    After all, you have said that scurvy is a genetic disorder that affects


    100% of

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    the population.

    If you are talking on the basis that CVD is scurvy and us as humans cannot
    make vitamin C then a big yes!
    You got it!

    No, Anth, you've got it, and it is called delusional thinking...quite common in
    psychotic folk. Actually, it sounds to me that you really don't believe what
    you are saying. Rather, it sounds like you are enjoying sodomizing language.
    Are you JBain in disguise?

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    I don't think they whole medical establishment is crazy, but I do think a
    lot of them are misguided.

    Humans are prone to such. That's why we use science to eliminate observer
    bias, economic motives, and random acts of stupidity.

    Quoted message said:

    As for your strawman, If Bush and Blair can lead a whole country into


    war,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    then a few pharm cartels can lead the doctors also.

    You have a penchant for Strawmen. It would seem that you fancy the


    Scarecrow

    Quoted message said:

    from the Wizard of Oz.

    heh to be honest I'm not that way inclined, I prefer Dorothy.

    Well, that the most reasonable thing you've posted in today. Carry on.

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    > Secondly, your bringing up Blair & Bush is called a Strawman, which is


    a

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    > logical fallacy. If it weren't for logical fallacies, you'd never have
    > anything related to logic in your thoughts or posts.

    Incorrect <see my point above>

    Nope. You are clearly affected with Strawmanitis. This is a genetic


    disorder

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    affecting over 50% of the pro-alt population....along with somatic
    hypervigilism.

    Says who the one who lives in a bubble and dances with imaginary bubble men?

    Would you care to clarify that?

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    Quoted message said:
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    Medicine was responsible for the deaths of both my parents, until


    medicine

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kills one of your family with their 'accidents,' then you live in your
    little bubble and enjoy life.

    Obviously, you have hard feelings toward the doctors in the case of your
    parents. As I'm not privvy to the specifics and really not in the


    position to

    Quoted message said:

    determine malpractice, I'm not able to determine what happened. As I've


    said

    Quoted message said:

    before, I do feel for your loss, whether or not you believe me. I know


    that

    Quoted message said:

    MD's make mistakes and those mistakes are sometimes fatal. If such an
    occurence happened to them, do as Hawki suggested. She mentioned to you
    something about your mother's situation. Perhaps there was bona-fide
    malpractice. Perhaps not.

    Its really sweet of you to wish medical malpractice on me and my family.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    guess you really acquired lots of empathy and put your heart in the right


    place

    Quoted message said:

    as a result of playing martyr. Your malediction is nothing short of


    heroic,

    Quoted message said:

    heartwarming, and exactly what your parents would have wanted.

    FWIW, my parent's lives have been saved by EEEEEEEEEEeeeeevil
    Oooooooooooorrrrrrganized Medicine on more than one occasion each. I


    guess

    Quoted message said:

    that will haunt you and Jan as you both seem to feel that it runs contrary


    to

    Quoted message said:

    the intentions of the medical profession.

    Like I say "bugger you jack I'm alright"

    You're sounding more like JBain all the time.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    "They save lives also?" Try telling that to
    the dead people...
    Anth

    Oh, so if they can't save everyone, all the time, they should just hand


    out

    Quoted message said:

    Vitamin C, administer enemas, and wear sack-cloth.

    So.... for your profile,
    Anth is an undereducated not too well heterosexual hypochondriac who carries
    a penchant for being [censored] a lot, caused by Doctoritus.

    Hear, hear! By Jove, I think you've got (some of) it!

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    Love
    Anth

    Feel my unlimited tough love, Anth. Its GOOD for you and prevents scurvy.

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    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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    llsa the 'Read with me Barny ABC wonk psychologist' wrote

    What does "wonk" mean? My British is a bit rusty.

    wonk 'wa[ng]k, 'wo[ng]k, noun, origin unknown, 1954,: NERD

    From: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

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