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Re: Ascorbic acid study

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  1. I'd like to see some studies in people only eating supplements and water.
    (i.e. no natural food sources)
    Anth

    "Lou" <lou(nospam)@411.com> wrote in message
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    Lancet. 2001 Mar 3;357(9257):657-63. Related Articles, Links

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    Lancet. 2001 Jul 7;358(9275):71-2.

    Relation between plasma ascorbic acid and mortality in men and women in
    EPIC-Norfolk prospective study: a prospective population study. European
    Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition.

    Khaw KT, Bingham S, Welch A, Luben R, Wareham N, Oakes S, Day N.

    Department of Public Health and Primary Care, Institute of Public Health,
    University of Cambridge School of Clinical Medicine, UK.
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    BACKGROUND: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) might be protective for several
    chronic diseases. However, findings from prospective studies that relate
    ascorbic acid to cardiovascular disease or cancer are not consistent. We
    aimed to assess the relation between plasma ascorbic acid and subsequent
    mortality due to all causes, cardiovascular disease, ischaemic heart
    disease, and cancer. METHODS: We prospectively examined for 4 years the
    relation between plasma ascorbic acid concentrations and mortality due to
    all causes, and to cardiovascular disease, ischaemic heart disease, and
    cancer in 19 496 men and women aged 45-79 years. We recruited individuals


    by

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    post using age-sex registers of general practices. Participants completed


    a

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    health and lifestyle questionnaire and were examined at a clinic visit.


    They

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    were followed-up for causes of death for about 4 years. Individuals were
    divided into sex-specific quintiles of plasma ascorbic acid. We used the


    Cox

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    proportional hazard model to determine the effect of ascorbic acid and


    other

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    risk factors on mortality. FINDINGS: Plasma ascorbic acid concentration


    was

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    inversely related to mortality from all-causes, and from cardiovascular
    disease, and ischaemic heart disease in men and women. Risk of mortality


    in

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    the top ascorbic acid quintile was about half the risk in the lowest
    quintile (p<0.0001). The relation with mortality was continuous through


    the

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    whole distribution of ascorbic acid concentrations. 20 micromol/L rise in
    plasma ascorbic acid concentration, equivalent to about 50 g per day
    increase in fruit and vegetable intake, was associated with about a 20%
    reduction in risk of all-cause mortality (p<0.0001), independent of age,
    systolic blood pressure, blood cholesterol, cigarette smoking habit,
    diabetes, and supplement use. Ascorbic acid was inversely related to


    cancer

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    mortality in men but not women. INTERPRETATION: Small increases in fruit


    and

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    vegetable intake of about one serving daily has encouraging prospects for
    possible prevention of disease.

    PMID: 11247548 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    (End of Abstract)

    My Take:
    Note: "mortality due to all causes".
    Just think of what higher levels induced via vitamin c supplementation


    would

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    provide.
    I'm sticking to my 8 - 10 Grams of C a day. (For the last 11 years).
    Lou

  2. In said:

    I'd like to see some studies in people only eating supplements and water.
    (i.e. no natural food sources)

    Are you planning to round up six million test subjects?

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  3. 100 or so would do..
    Anth

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    In said:

    I'd like to see some studies in people only eating supplements and


    water.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (i.e. no natural food sources)

    Are you planning to round up six million test subjects?

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  4. In said:
    Anth said:

    I'd like to see some studies in people only eating supplements and water.
    (i.e. no natural food sources)

    There are a few persons who have been recieving only chemically
    defined nutrition via IV for most of their lives (solution of
    amino acids, glucose, fats, vitamins and minerals). And those I
    knew of were growing normally, if you made allowances for the
    condition that put them on the IV nutrition.

    Somehow I suspect that the amino acids, glucose, fats, etc.
    aren't on the list Anth had in mind.

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  5. In said:

    100 or so would do..
    Anth

    "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In said:

    I'd like to see some studies in people only eating supplements and water.
    (i.e. no natural food sources)

    Are you planning to round up six million test subjects?

    Why do I suspect Anth missed the point?

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