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    Someone told me that the Christian real Sabbath is Saturday and it has been
    changed to Sunday?
    This is a change of god's word (the bible) by the church.
    I'm often spent wondering, did they ask god and say "Hey god can we have
    Saturday off?" god says "Sure you can?"
    Anth 🙂

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    http://www.100prophecies.org/textonly/love1.htm

    Why Christians shouldn't hate

    When I was in high school during the early 1980s, I was surprised that so


    many

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    of my friends would talk about how much they hated Jews. Every now and


    then,

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    one of my friends would say something to the effect of "I wish [censored] had
    finished the job." Most of the time, I would keep quiet because I was too


    much

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    of a coward to speak out against hatred. Had I been a true Christian, I


    would

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    have had no choice but to stand up and speak out against hatred, because


    that

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    is what Jesus commanded of us when He said: "So in everything, do to


    others

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    what you would have them do to you." So, today, I will do what I should


    have

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    done many years ago. I will, to the best of my abilities, speak out


    against

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    hatred of the Jews, who have been targeted with unequaled hatred during


    the

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    past 4000 years.

    And who am I to attempt this? I am nobody. I am not important. I am not
    influential. And I am not especially well-educated. But I have read the


    Bible.

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    And here are a few things that I found in the Bible which prohibit us from
    hating Jews, and prohibit us from hating anyone else:

    1. The Jews have a unique status according to the Bible. They were chosen


    as

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    the people who would hear and record the words of God, through His


    prophets,

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    who were also Jewish. And the Jews have influenced the world with the
    scriptures. There are now about 2 billion Christians in the world. In one


    form

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    or another, these scriptures have influenced more than half of the people


    in

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    the world to abandon pagan worship. The Jews, in this regard, and in many
    others, have influenced the world more than any other group of people.

    2. The Bible declared that the Jews would be scattered throughout the


    world

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    (Deuteronomy 28:64) and that they would be a blessing to the world


    (Genesis

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    12:2-3). Indeed, the Jews have been scattered to every country in the


    world,

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    during the past 2500 years. And this scattering has enabled them to help


    reveal

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    to the world the truth revealed in the scriptures, that there is one true


    God,

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    and only one true God.

    3. God has revealed to us in the Bible that people who persecute the Jews


    will

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    be punished. And indeed they have been. The great Assyrian Empire


    persecuted

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    the Jews. The great neo-Babylonian Empire persecuted the Jews. The great
    Phoenician Empire persecuted the Jews. The great Roman Empire persecuted


    the

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    Jews. The powerful Nazi empire persecuted the Jews. And the powerful


    Soviet

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    Union persecuted the Jews. All of these empires have been destroyed. And


    yet,

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    the Jews are still a nation. Why? Because God had made this promise to the


    Jews

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    in Genesis 12:2-3 - "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses


    you I

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    will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." God


    keeps

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    His promises. And, the Jews are living proof that God keeps His promises.

    4. About 2000 years ago, Christianity was introduced to the world by a


    group of

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    Jews who were followers of Jesus. One of every three people in the world


    today

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    are identified as being Christian, according to various almanacs and
    encyclopedias. The Scriptures, largely through the spread of Christianity,


    have

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    influenced governments and criminal justice systems throughout the world.


    The

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    concepts that people are equal in the eyes of God, that individuals have


    rights

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    that should be protected, trace all or some of their roots to the Bible.


    And

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    these concepts can probably trace most and perhaps all of their modern-day
    popularity to the influence and popularity of the Bible. These are gifts


    of the

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    Bible - gifts of the Jews - to the world.

    5. The Jews are living proof that we all can rely on the promises made by


    God

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    in the Bible. After all, the Bible told us, for example, that:
    1. Israel would be a nation (1400 BC, 1948).
    2. Jerusalem and the Temple would be destroyed (70-135 AD).
    3. The Jews would be exiled (70-135 AD).
    4. Israel would become a wasteland (135-1900s).
    5. The Jews would be scattered worldwide (135-1900s).
    6. The Jews would be persecuted worldwide (135-1900s).
    7. The Jews would have a worldwide impact (135-1900s).
    8. Their identity as a group would be preserved (135-1900s).
    9. The Jews would return to their homeland (1900s, etc).
    10. The Jews would have Israel again as their own country (since 1948).
    All of these things have happened. No matter how tightly you close your


    eyes,

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    all of these things have happened. No matter how strenuously you attack


    the

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    Bible, all of these things have happened. And the Bible said that all of


    these

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    things would happen. And the Jews are living proof that the Bible keeps


    its

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    promises.

    6. When the Jews declared independence for Israel in May 1948, it was the


    first

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    time in about 2900 years that Israel was both united and independent. Who


    has

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    ever heard of such a thing - that a country could be reborn after its


    people

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    had been scattered worldwide for a few thousand years? And who has ever


    heard

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    of such a thing - that a country could be reborn in a single day? Who? -


    you,

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    me, and the Bible. The new Israel was born in a single day. After a


    worldwide

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    movement called Zionism began in the 1800s, hundreds of thousands of Jews
    worldwide began to return to their ancient homeland. Then, in May 1948,


    the

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    Jews declared independence. On that same day, the United States and other
    countries acknowledged the sovereignty of Israel. And, Israel's


    sovereignty was

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    acknowledged in a very different way by the countries surrounding Israel.
    Within hours of the declaration of independence, Israel was attacked by


    the

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    surrounding countries which had hoped to put an end to the newly reborn
    country. Those countries, combined, were at least 20 times larger than


    tiny

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    Israel. And yet, tiny Israel prevailed in that war. Why? Because the Bible
    keeps its promises (see Isaiah 66:7-8 and Leviticus 26:3-8). And the Jews


    are

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    living proof of this. Israel is living proof of this.

    7. And let us not forget that Jesus is a Jew. Jesus is a Jew. His first


    group

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    of followers were Jewish. How can we hate Jews and call ourselves


    followers of

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    Jesus? It is impossible. Jesus talked about love, not hatred. Should we


    hate

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    Jews because they are not followers of Jesus? Of course not. Would we want
    Hindus to hate us because we are not Hindus? Would we want Moslems to hate


    us

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    because we are not Moslems? Do we want Jews to hate us because we are not


    Jews?

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    Of course not. If we are followers of Jesus, we should not hate anyone.
    Instead, we should treat others as we would have them treat us. That's


    what

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    Jesus told us to do. How can we be followers of Jesus if we don't follow


    Jesus?

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    How can we allow ourselves, or our friends, or anyone else, to hate Jews?


    They

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    are the people who gave us the word of God. That was their job. God had


    chosen

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    them, out of all the peoples on the face of the earth, to be His chosen


    people,

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    to record His words, and to share His words with the world. And yet, too


    many

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    times in the past 1900 years, we Christians have persecuted the Jews. We


    banned

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    them from living in Spain, England, France, Belgium and Italy. We burned


    their

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    villages and we burned them alive - their husbands, their wives, their


    parents

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    and their children. We stood by quietly while some of our church leaders
    expressed their un-Christian hatred for Jews. And we didn't always stand


    up

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    when some of our church leaders were defending the Jews. We must never


    allow

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    ourselves to do this again. We must never allow ourselves to betray the
    teachings of the Bible. Instead we must embrace the teachings of the


    Bible, we

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    must embrace the Biblical ideal of treating other people as we would have


    them

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    treat us. And if we embrace the Bible, then we have no choice but to


    embrace

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    our Jewish brothers and sisters. And we have no choice but to embrace our
    African brothers and sisters, our Asian brothers and sisters, our


    Australian,

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    American, Oceanic and European brothers and sisters.

    We must never allow ourselves to hate other people, regardless of whether


    they

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    are Christians or non-Christians. Instead, we must love them because we


    are

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    Christians.

    - Raymond Konig
    Written: Sept. 23, 2000
    Revised: Nov. 18, 2002

    With all sincerity,

    Jan

  2. "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    OT
    Someone told me that the Christian real Sabbath is Saturday and it has been
    changed to Sunday?
    This is a change of god's word (the bible) by the church.
    I'm often spent wondering, did they ask god and say "Hey god can we have
    Saturday off?" god says "Sure you can?"
    Anth 🙂

    One day I told God if he didn't tell me otherwise I was going to start
    praying to someone else due to his lack of participation. The next day I
    read about "Happy the Clown" in the paper. He died in his trailer with his
    dog named "Dog". I then started by praying to Happy. The answers to my
    prayers still had about the same 50-50 success ratio, so I turned elsewhere.
    I still haven't found someone to pray to that gives me better results than
    about a 50-50 ratio. I ask God his opinion on some things from time to time,
    but he isn't saying anything. Maybe I will start praying to Samuel "say what
    one more time..." L. Jackson. I suspect he is a no nonsense kind of guy.

    r

    --
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
    magic."

    Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - ), "Technology and the Future"

  3. Rich Andrews said:

    One day I told God if he didn't tell me otherwise I was going to
    start praying to someone else due to his lack of participation.

    That's odd. I don't seem to have received any e-mail from you.
    Maybe it got caught in my spam filter.

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    I ask God his opinion on some things from time to time,
    but he isn't saying anything.

    Ever since I got on all these spammer lists, I haven't had
    time to answer every single thing. If it's not an emergency,
    try to handle it yourself, okay? :-)

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