The thing that bothered me about the bit was not that this town had a ban on Speedos in the first place, but that The Daily Show was exhibiting that childish, embarrassed attitude about men wearing them. Has shame really gotten so bad in America that even The Daily Show buys into it?
Has shame gotten so bad for some people? Yes. Does the Daily Show buy into it? Not necessarily. But let's face it, they are a comedy show. They need to play into that shame for the laughs.
What wasn't funny was the woman they interviewed who didn't want to see or her children to see men on the beach wearing speedos. The horrible truth is she's probably more the majority than minority. Until this country gets over it's prudishness, it's going to be that way for a while. Look at how popular Jammers are now.
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
Just yesteday, I carved out 2.5 miles in the green Atlantic. I proudly wore my comfortable and very visible red Speedo -- and was the only guy on the beach with such minimalist garb.
On the other hand, I was also the only on the beach swimming 2.5 miles (after the Ft.Walton shark story, no less). Most of the fatties out there wade in and wade right out.
I say, if you're going to practice an unusual sport, then be prepared to use oddball equipment. "Jim_Is_Curious" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Has shame gotten so bad for some people? Yes. Does the Daily Show buy into it? Not necessarily. But let's face it, they are a comedy show. They need to play into that shame for the laughs.
What wasn't funny was the woman they interviewed who didn't want to see or her children to see men on the beach wearing speedos. The horrible truth is she's probably more the majority than minority. Until this country gets over it's prudishness, it's going to be that way for a while. Look at how popular Jammers are now.
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
All the male competitive swimmers in the world will be amused to know some child at the NY Times thinks they are all gay.
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Just yesteday, I carved out 2.5 miles in the green Atlantic. I proudly wore my comfortable and very visible red Speedo -- and was the only guy on the beach with such minimalist garb.
On the other hand, I was also the only on the beach swimming 2.5 miles (after the Ft.Walton shark story, no less). Most of the fatties out there wade in and wade right out.
I say, if you're going to practice an unusual sport, then be prepared to use oddball equipment. "Jim_Is_Curious" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Has shame gotten so bad for some people? Yes. Does the Daily Show buy into it? Not necessarily. But let's face it, they are a comedy show. They need to play into that shame for the laughs.
What wasn't funny was the woman they interviewed who didn't want to see or her children to see men on the beach wearing speedos. The horrible truth is she's probably more the majority than minority. Until this country gets over it's prudishness, it's going to be that way for a while. Look at how popular Jammers are now.
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
One guy I know has sex with other men, but wears baggy swim trunks. Is he still gay?
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
One guy I know has sex with other men, but wears baggy swim trunks. Is he still gay?
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
All the male competitive swimmers in the world will be amused to know some child at the NY Times thinks they are all gay.
I thought they all wore jammers these days.
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Just yesteday, I carved out 2.5 miles in the green Atlantic. I proudly wore my comfortable and very visible red Speedo -- and was the only guy on the beach with such minimalist garb.
On the other hand, I was also the only on the beach swimming 2.5 miles (after the Ft.Walton shark story, no less). Most of the fatties out there wade in and wade right out.
I say, if you're going to practice an unusual sport, then be prepared to use oddball equipment.
Is swimming an unusual sport? I'm always surprised when I meet someone who can't swim. Although, of course, it doesn't always come up in conversation, so I may be missing many data points.
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"Jim_Is_Curious" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Has shame gotten so bad for some people? Yes. Does the Daily Show buy into it? Not necessarily. But let's face it, they are a comedy show. They need to play into that shame for the laughs.
What wasn't funny was the woman they interviewed who didn't want to see or her children to see men on the beach wearing speedos. The horrible truth is she's probably more the majority than minority. Until this country gets over it's prudishness, it's going to be that way for a while. Look at how popular Jammers are now.
Well, there seems to be a bit of a double standard there. And one in which the men are at a disadvantage for a change. It seems that women can get away with pretty much everything as long as there's a bit of cloth covering some fairly small areas, but men are expected to disguise the bulges of nature. While some people might say (and very likely do) that I might look better in a tankini, I don't think anyone has ever suggested that displaying my 40something body in a bikini shouldn't be *allowed.*
The NY Times said only gays wear Speedos. It didn't say gays only wear Speedos.
As for jammers, I suspect the great jiggling mass of humanity at the beach would also consider them "fruity," to use an anachronistic term. So, I guess, if we male swimmers are brave enough to stray from the pool and into the ocean or the neighborhood swimming hole, we must be brave enough to endure the scorn of a mob of people who regard us as umanly.
I wonder how it works for female swimmers at the beach. Are you embarrassed to be wearing a serious swimming suit (a la Speedo or Tyr) amidst a throng wearing thongs? I've noticed that the women I swim with will change into a bikini after an open-water workout. Maybe it has more to do with the tanning limitations of Speedo than anything else.
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Monsieur Big Stuff said:
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
One guy I know has sex with other men, but wears baggy swim trunks. Is he still gay?
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
One guy I know has sex with other men, but wears baggy swim trunks. Is he still gay?
One guy I know has sex with other men, but wears baggy swim trunks. Is he still gay?
Oh, that's very good, Wendy. Really good.
Ruth K
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*bows modestly* You should be impressed to know that based on my contributions to the Orkut community "Bad Advice," I was personally invited to join "Worse Advice."
Yes things are going backward. Time was when speedo style suits were the norm. How can anyone swim in those jammers? Speeds are veru practial as they dry quickly. In Europe they are the norm.
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What wasn't funny was the woman they interviewed who didn't want to see or her children to see men on the beach wearing speedos. The horrible truth is she's probably more the majority than minority. Until this country gets over it's prudishness, it's going to be that way for a while. Look at how popular Jammers are now.
Yes things are going backward. Time was when speedo style suits were the norm. How can anyone swim in those jammers? Speeds are veru practial as they dry quickly. In Europe they are the norm.
Yup. Here is a true story. Some ten years ago, not long after coming to the US I decided to buy myself a swimsuit. So, naturally, I went to a store looking for it. I couldn't find any. All they were selling were these obscene boxer style suits that looked suspiciously like underwear 🙂
Just last week (6/19) the NY Times had an article on how it has become nearly impossible to discern gay men from straight men based on grooming and style. One exception noted by the Times is that only gays wear Speedos.
Just yesteday, I carved out 2.5 miles in the green Atlantic. I proudly wore my comfortable and very visible red Speedo -- and was the only guy on the beach with such minimalist garb.
On the other hand, I was also the only on the beach swimming 2.5 miles (after the Ft.Walton shark story, no less). Most of the fatties out there wade in and wade right out.
I say, if you're going to practice an unusual sport, then be prepared to use oddball equipment. "Jim_Is_Curious" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Has shame gotten so bad for some people? Yes. Does the Daily Show buy into it? Not necessarily. But let's face it, they are a comedy show. They need to play into that shame for the laughs.
What wasn't funny was the woman they interviewed who didn't want to see or her children to see men on the beach wearing speedos. The horrible truth is she's probably more the majority than minority. Until this country gets over it's prudishness, it's going to be that way for a while. Look at how popular Jammers are now.
Jim
I guess guys who want to prove they are hetero and still swim unencumbered have to swim nude from now on.
Remember that the reputation of the New York Times is quite tarnished by journalists making up stories.
There is such a double standard--even the most modest women's bathing suit leaves little to the imagination. It is fine for little children to see that but not men in speedos? Madelaine
Excellent point. I think I read in one of the previous threads in this group that in some places in Europe, you are NOT allowed to swim in local pools unless you're wearing a Speedo (and swim cap). When will America catch up??
