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  1. So far I have heard conflicting arguments when
    it comes to working out, and what how many days you work on what muscle
    group.

    The schedule I have figured out consists of 5 days and working a
    specific muscle group on that day. I
    have scheduled 3 of the days to be a "compound days". I have also
    heard that working a specific muscle 2 times during that week (with a 2
    day break), can get better results faster. Giving the muscle a bit
    less time to rest.

    I am just starting out in this area and my initial thinking is that
    taking longer breaks can be better then
    working the same muscle more then once a week. Also dedicating
    your energy more on that one muscle per day get bigger results.

    I am a beginner so I have quite a bit of devolpment to work through
    before I get where I want to be

    Am I on the right track?

    Thanks,

    -Phil

    Here is the schedule that I have so far:

    *****Monday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Incline bench press (machine)
    12-15 - 2 sets

    One Arm Dumbbell Rows
    12-15 R
    12-15 L
    (Repeat)

    Machine Fly
    12-15 - 2 sets

    Lat Machine Pull Downs
    12 - 15 Front
    12 - 15 Back

    Pullover (machine)
    12-15 - 2 sets

    *****Tuesday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Military Press (machine)
    12-15 - 3 sets

    Dumbbell Shrugs
    12-15 - 3 Sets

    One Arm Cross Cable Laterals
    12-15 R
    12-15 L
    (Repeat)

    *****Wednesday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Leg Extensions
    17-20 - 3 Sets

    Leg Curls
    17-20 - 3 Sets

    Leg Press
    17-20 - 3 Sets

    *****Thursday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Preacher Bench Curls
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    Triceps Cable Pressdowns
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    Concentration Curls
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    Lying Dumbbell Extensions
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    Dumbbell One-Arm Wrist Curls
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    *****Saturday*****

    30 Min Cardio

    Seated Calf Raises
    12-15 - 3 Sets

    Reverse Calf Raised
    12-15 - 3 Sets

    Crunches
    (Till Failure)

    Cable Crunches
    12-15 - 3 Sets

  2. Phil,
    People have different routines that they like. I think some of the
    rest issue depends on the person. The strongest I ever got occurred
    when I was so busy at school that I could only put in one monster
    workout a week. I was worried that I would get weaker but every time I
    went to the gym I lifted more and more it seemed, I guess I had been
    overtraining and needed the rest. One thing I would recommend on your
    routine is that I have had far more results using free weights than
    machines on the presses. I am currently splitting my body into a upper
    body workout and a lower body/ab workout.

    Good luck,
    James

  3. Dnia 2005-06-22 [email hidden] napisa³(a):

    Quoted message said:


    So far I have heard conflicting arguments when
    it comes to working out, and what how many days you work on what muscle
    group.

    misc.fitness.weights is the best muscle group around. Spend all your
    time there. 😉

    Quoted message said:

    The schedule I have figured out consists of 5 days and working a
    specific muscle group on that day. I
    have scheduled 3 of the days to be a "compound days". I have also
    heard that working a specific muscle 2 times during that week (with a 2
    day break), can get better results faster.

    It works for me. 7 days rest seems to be to much. Muscles decondition
    too much and get sore after you train them again.

    Quoted message said:

    Giving the muscle a bit
    less time to rest.

    I am just starting out in this area and my initial thinking is that
    taking longer breaks can be better then
    working the same muscle more then once a week.

    You might be right, but it doesn't work like that for me.

    On the other hand, having some extra rest after prolonged period of
    training often helps most of a time. For a while, at least. Nothing
    works for ever and this is the main reason people change their routines.

    Quoted message said:

    Also dedicating
    your energy more on that one muscle per day get bigger results.

    Sure, but getting bigger muscle soreness or bigger injuries might not be
    this kind of result most trainees want.

    Quoted message said:

    I am a beginner so I have quite a bit of devolpment to work through
    before I get where I want to be

    Am I on the right track?

    Yes. You train, you think and you ask questions. Keep at it and you
    will succeed.

    Some general comments before I'll go into details - 12-15 rep range is
    fine for an absolute beginner, but later switch into 6-10, adding an
    extra set if you want. 5 day split is probably too much. I, e.g.,
    train with three day split of push/pull/legs&arms for some 5 to 7 days a
    week.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks,

    -Phil

    Here is the schedule that I have so far:

    *****Monday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Move your cardio to the end of a workout.

    Quoted message said:

    Incline bench press (machine)
    12-15 - 2 sets

    One Arm Dumbbell Rows
    12-15 R
    12-15 L
    (Repeat)

    Machine Fly
    12-15 - 2 sets

    Dump it or replace with free weights flat bench press. Or, even better,
    parallel dips.

    Quoted message said:

    Lat Machine Pull Downs
    12 - 15 Front
    12 - 15 Back

    Work yourself into real pullups. Training bodyweight negatives works
    faster than increasing resistance on lat machine.

    Quoted message said:

    Pullover (machine)
    12-15 - 2 sets

    *****Tuesday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Military Press (machine)
    12-15 - 3 sets

    Dumbbell Shrugs
    12-15 - 3 Sets

    One Arm Cross Cable Laterals
    12-15 R
    12-15 L
    (Repeat)

    Replace it with bent over cable flies.

    Quoted message said:

    *****Wednesday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Leg Extensions
    17-20 - 3 Sets

    Useless.

    Quoted message said:

    Leg Curls
    17-20 - 3 Sets

    Useless.

    Quoted message said:

    Leg Press
    17-20 - 3 Sets

    Way too many reps. Stick with 8-12 if you like higher reps for legs.

    Do some step-ups, lounges, stiff leg deadlifts, power cleans, split
    squats, dumbbell squats or something similar if regular squats are no
    option.

    Quoted message said:

    *****Thursday*****

    20 Min Cardio

    Preacher Bench Curls
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    Replace it with standing curls.

    Quoted message said:

    Triceps Cable Pressdowns
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    Concentration Curls
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    Dump it.

    Quoted message said:

    Lying Dumbbell Extensions
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    I'd dump it. This or triceps pressdowns.

    Quoted message said:

    Dumbbell One-Arm Wrist Curls
    12-15 - 2 Sets

    *****Saturday*****

    30 Min Cardio

    Seated Calf Raises
    12-15 - 3 Sets

    Reverse Calf Raised
    12-15 - 3 Sets

    Crunches
    (Till Failure)

    Either dump it or add some weight.

    Quoted message said:

    Cable Crunches
    12-15 - 3 Sets

    I'd do just this.

    Good luck.
    --
    Andrzej Rosa 1127R

  4. Phil,
    I forgot to mention that I would not generally recommend working out
    only one time a week. I currently work out about three times a week
    with a chest/tricep and back/legs split (I changed to this split last
    week).

    James

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