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Wrong doing ~ ?

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  1. What did it cost
    The victim of this "wrong doing"?

    What is legal,
    Or ethical?

    What was done,
    To whom?

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    Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:32:38 +0000 (UTC)
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    Subject: I have a dilemma...
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    ....well, actually, I have lots of dilemmas (dilemmi?), but the dilemma
    over
    which I seek the advice of the rec.runners is as follows:

    I know someone who's been bad. Not a tiny bit bad, or even a
    medium-sized
    bit bad, but *very, very* bad. Of their badness I will say little,
    other
    than it was BAD. Of them I can say but a fraction more. They are
    male,
    of means, well-educated (and before you put two-and-two together and
    come up
    with five, NO, it ain't moi) and have - in my eyes - no apparent reason
    for
    falling off the straight and narrow.

    I knew nothing of their badness until after the dirty deed was done.
    It
    cannot be undone, nor will the application of time, money or effort
    heal the
    scars of their stupidity. They confessed their folly to me openly and
    freely. They sought my advice upon what to do next.

    So, what should I say? Actually, I know what to say 'cause I've
    already
    said it. I guess I'm raising the subject with you as a sort of 'straw
    poll'
    to see if y'all agree with me. I told them to walk away and never
    speak to
    anyone, ever again, of their deed.

    Reasons? OK, firstly - as I said - his act can't be undone, therefore
    contrition is futile, punishment merely vengance, and retribution is a
    matter for the gods. Secondly, this soul has led a blameless life to
    date - even, in my eyes, a useful one - therefore I see no-one better
    suited
    to be his judge than himself. And finally, and *most* importantly,
    life is
    full of odd little events. What looks terrible to me may be judged by
    others, in a different time and place, to be sensible or even laudable.
    I
    have to trust that - based on my knowledge of him, of his life and his
    previously demonstrated personal values - he acted as any reasonable
    person
    would have, given the circumstances in which he found himself. In
    other
    words, it could have been me.

    Is that fair? Does the fact that I accept that I *can* fail excuse
    the
    fact that others *do*? Would it have been worse if he wasn't such a
    decent
    bloke? Can the fact that you've led a good life in any way mitigate
    against the commission of a bad act? Or it it all black and white,
    right
    and wrong?

    The floor, rec.runners, is all yours...

  2. "... stop acting like a jerk."
    ~ Twittering

    "Stop being so defensive."
    ~ Np

    "... just who do you think you are,
    Anyway?"
    ~ Twittering

    "Me? I'm Roger.
    Friend of Leonardo."
    ~ NP

    "... what about Michelanegelo,
    Or the women,
    Who come and go, fawning over Leonardo ~ ?

    Or the overrated Nelson, a very bad
    Man ~ ?
    ~ Folly

  3. "Order does not exceed these boundaries,
    And should not be confused with proportion,
    Which can in no way satisfactorily
    Takes it place,
    Since proportion is that which gives us norms
    And rules of the precise distance
    Of things placed first and next,
    And of measured quantities, which are more or less."

    ~ Vincenzo Danti,
    Quoted in "Michelangelo
    And The Language of Art"
    [p. 355]

  4. Did said person
    Violate rules, or possess considerably
    More power,
    Than the object of his perp?

    What is your role, in relation to The Perp?

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