Cilo Bicycle Upgrade

TDS said:

I have a late 80's (1987?) Cilo road bike. It has a shimano biopace dual
crank and 6spd cassette. I like the bike and would like to upgrade it to be
a triple crank (for hills) and 9 spd cassette. I was thinking of Shimano
105 components. Is this practical / doable?

This bike is most likely spaced for a 126 mm rear hub. If it's one of
the steel Cilos, re-spacing it is a trivial matter, and it's well worth
the upgrade.

See: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing

If it's one of the glued aluminum (Vitus) ones I'd be nervous about
spreading the frame.

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You might want to read a recent thread here on compact cranks (ie cranks using
smaller chain rings). These permit one to easily achieve the lower gear ratios
found on most triple cranks without all the fuss and expense. Useful with any
number of cogs in the back.

TDS said:

I have a late 80's (1987?) Cilo road bike. It has a shimano biopace dual
crank and 6spd cassette. I like the bike and would like to upgrade it to be
a triple crank (for hills) and 9 spd cassette. I was thinking of Shimano
105 components. Is this practical / doable?

Any comments / suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Kent

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I have a late 80's (1987?) Cilo road bike. It has a shimano biopace dual
crank and 6spd cassette. I like the bike and would like to upgrade it to be
a triple crank (for hills) and 9 spd cassette. I was thinking of Shimano
105 components. Is this practical / doable?

Yes it is doable. It will take some work. You will need to have the spacing
on your rear triangle re-set to 130 to accept a 9spd wheel. You will need to
buy:

rear wheel
9spd cassette
9spd chain
9spd cranks
matching BB
That is a minimum. If you want to go to STI, then you will also need the STI
levers and an index compatible derailleur. Check the prices on these parts and
then you can decide if it is worth it to you.
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Alex

Alex Rodriguez said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I have a late 80's (1987?) Cilo road bike. It has a shimano biopace dual
crank and 6spd cassette. I like the bike and would like to upgrade it to be
a triple crank (for hills) and 9 spd cassette. I was thinking of Shimano
105 components. Is this practical / doable?

Yes it is doable. It will take some work. You will need to have the spacing
on your rear triangle re-set to 130 to accept a 9spd wheel. You will need to
buy:

rear wheel
9spd cassette
9spd chain
9spd cranks
matching BB
That is a minimum. If you want to go to STI, then you will also need the STI
levers and an index compatible derailleur. Check the prices on these parts and
then you can decide if it is worth it to you.
---------------
Alex

Maybe new cranks, BB and front der are not needed?

Francesco

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have a late 80's (1987?) Cilo road bike. It has a shimano biopace dual
crank and 6spd cassette. I like the bike and would like to upgrade it to be
a triple crank (for hills) and 9 spd cassette. I was thinking of Shimano
105 components. Is this practical / doable?

Alex Rodriguez said:

Quoted message said:

Yes it is doable. It will take some work. You will need to have the spacing
on your rear triangle re-set to 130 to accept a 9spd wheel. You will need to
buy:

rear wheel
9spd cassette
9spd chain
9spd cranks
matching BB
That is a minimum. If you want to go to STI, then you will also need the STI
levers and an index compatible derailleur. Check the prices on these parts and
then you can decide if it is worth it to you.

Francesco Devittori said:

Maybe new cranks, BB and front der are not needed?

For conversion to 9-speed, they're not needed, but the original poster
also mentioned that he wanted to upgrade to a triple in front.

The O.P. could save a lot of money by going to a wide range cassette and
leaving the cranks alone. This would require a new rear derailer, but
derailers are cheap. He could get much lower gearing than he or she has
now without changing the cranks. Going from a 42 to a 38 tooth small
chainring would also help, again at a much lower cost than going for a
triple.

Sheldon "Decisions, Decisions..." Brown
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Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
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Francesco Devittori said:

Maybe new cranks, BB and front der are not needed?

That would be true, except the OP said he wants to switch from a double
to triple crankset.

Art Harris

Art Harris said:

Francesco Devittori said:

Maybe new cranks, BB and front der are not needed?

That would be true, except the OP said he wants to switch from a double
to triple crankset.

Art Harris

Sorry, you (and Sheldon) are right... I should read more carefully!

Francesco

My thanks to all of you. I had said that I was looking to go to a triple
crank, but the responses I've received will make me think about that.
Options have been brought up that have me thinking that for a start, I may
just go to the 9spd and perhaps a triple crank later.

Thanks again to all.

Kent

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Quoted message said:

Art Harris said:

Francesco Devittori said:

Maybe new cranks, BB and front der are not needed?

That would be true, except the OP said he wants to switch from a double
to triple crankset.

Art Harris

Sorry, you (and Sheldon) are right... I should read more carefully!

Francesco

TDS said:

I have a late 80's (1987?) Cilo road bike. It has a shimano biopace dual
crank and 6spd cassette. I like the bike and would like to upgrade it to be
a triple crank (for hills) and 9 spd cassette. I was thinking of Shimano
105 components. Is this practical / doable?

Any comments / suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Kent

Have a good bike shop cold set the rear triangle to 130mm. Shift
levers, crank, BB, front and rear ders, cogset and chain. Easy and
doeable. Also look at Campagnolo Veloce, probably cheaper and more
durable.