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  1. From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@...>
    Date: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:07 pm
    Subject: What's Bugging You?

    What's Bugging You?

    The most common pathogenic organism found in raw milk is
    Staphyloccus aureus. Cows often get ulcers or sores on their
    udders. That bovine condition is known as mastitis, and the
    average cow in America requires $200 to treat that mastitis
    condition. Multiply that by 9.3 million dairy cows, and
    America's dairymen have a $2 billion yearly problem

    I would like to recommend to you a remarkable book. "Killers
    Within" is the story of the deadly rise of drug-resistant
    bacteria. Written by Michael Schnayerson and Mark Plotkin,
    this book reads like a detective story.

    According to the authors:

    Staphlococcus aureus is the most common infection of dairy
    cows. Bacterial toxins are easily passed from cows to humans
    in milk, and are not destroyed by pasteurization. On page
    30, the authors write:

    "Staph aureus bacteria are so virulent that very few are
    needed to do the job...it's the most successful of all
    bacterial pathogens and the number one cause of hospital
    infections in the world."

    I was fascinated to learn that many of the so-called miracle
    antibiotic drugs were derived from feces taken from sewers
    (page 35).

    On page 123, the authors explain one reason that antibiotic
    use continues on many farms. Antibiotics are growth
    promoters. That explains why chickens, pigs, and cows are so
    overdosed.

    The authors go into great detail about new strains of
    bacteria that developed immunities to traditional
    antibiotics. Many Americans consume the antibiotic-resistant
    bacteria and become deathly ill. Some of these bacterial
    strains take residence in the human heart, and the ensuing
    disease in painfully expensive, painfully painful, and
    untreatable.

    Cases of diarrhea from E. coli 157 or Guillain-Barre
    Syndrome from campylobacter can be traced to the diseased
    body fluids that we drink and infected flesh that we eat.
    The authors report a CDC study revealing that 60% of the 9.5
    billions chickens sold in America each year are infected
    with campylobacter. Three out of every five chickens. If you
    eat chicken twice each week, thirty of your meals will come
    from highly toxic and infected flesh.

    I was surprised to learn that 1.4 million Americans get
    salmonella each year, and 2-3% of those so infected get
    arthritis. I have not extended those numbers out over the
    course of a lifetime, but this information suggests a plague
    of bad health results from eating infected chickens.

    On page 173, the authors report that staph pneumo is the
    leading cause of acute otitis, or earaches in children. How
    many cases per year? About 6 million, according to the
    Centers for Disease Control. Earaches are the most common
    reason that children visit pediatricians, according to the
    authors.

    Why are there new strains of bacteria?

    The authors if "The Killers Within" do not explore the
    following:

    In 1990, the Food and Drug Administration sent a message to
    dairy farmers: more drugs in milk was permissible. FDA
    arbitrarily increased the allowable level of antibiotics in
    milk by 100 times. The old protocol called for no more than
    one part per hundred million of antibiotic residues in milk.
    The change permitted antibiotic levels to be as high as one
    part per million. Consumers Union tested milk samples in the
    New York metropolitan area in 1992 and found the presence of
    52 different antibiotics.

    During that two-year period, cows were overdosed with
    antibiotics and new strains of bacteria developed.

    If an imaginary cow had one billion bacteria in her system
    and she was treated with streptomycin and that antibiotic
    killed all but one of those germs, that one survivor would
    be immune to the drug, then reproduce a new population with
    total immunity. Doubling its population every twenty
    minutes, it would take 10 hours for a new strain of bacteria
    to grow to one billion in number. Multiply that by 9 million
    cows and 52 different antibiotics, and it becomes clear to
    see why antibiotics no longer seem to work when they are
    needed.

    Got Milk? Got Antibiotics!

    The average American drinks milk and eats cheese containing
    new strains of bacteria, immune to the 52 different
    antibiotics which are also present in milk.

    Children are dying, and scientists do not have a clue why.

    Milk and dairy products should carry a warning label. Forty
    percent of the average American's diet consists of a product
    that is always infected with bacteria in its raw state. Raw
    milk usually contains blood, feces, bacterial and pus cells.

    Pasteurization does not kill all of the bacteria in milk.
    Many cheeses are not pasteurized. Rod-shaped bacteria form a
    spore (spore is the Greek word for seed) at the first sign
    of heat. When the milk cools, the spore "blooms" and the
    bacteria re-emerges into its toxic state.

    Does pasteurization really work? On day ten you might pour
    out the offensive smelling milk in your refrigerator, and on
    day nine, you drink it.

    Got Sick?

    Robert Cohen
    http://www.notmilk.com

  2. [email hidden] writes

    Quoted message said:

    The most common pathogenic organism found in raw milk is
    Staphyloccus aureus.

    Commonly found on human skin too, its a very pervasive organism.

    Quoted message said:

    Cows often get ulcers or sores on their
    udders. That bovine condition is known as mastitis,

    No, actually that's called sores on the udder. Its rather uncommon even
    in a modestly well managed herd. Typically treated by rubbing twice
    daily with things like 'uddermint' (non-antibiotic mint healing rub).

    Mastitis is caused by an infection IN the udder.
    Milk from mastitic cows cannot be sold for human consumption (UK).

    Quoted message said:

    and the
    average cow in America requires $200 to treat that mastitis
    condition.

    Hmm, lessee that's about 125 UK pounds/cow so for a 200cow dairy unit
    that would be 25,000/annum. Comfortably more than my annual vet bill of
    circa 10,00/annum (most of which was difficult calvings, pregnancy
    diagnosis and other reproduction problems, mostly vet time).

    Quoted message said:

    Multiply that by 9.3 million dairy cows, and
    America's dairymen have a $2 billion yearly problem

    Maybe...

    Mind you I and my children drank untreated cows milk for 30 years.
    This now appears to be excellent at reducing risks of autoimmune
    diseases/asthma/etc.

    --
    Oz
    This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.

    Use [email hidden] [[email hidden] functions].
    BTOPENWORLD address has ceased. DEMON address has ceased.

  3. Robert Cohen is a flaming lunatic, posting all sorts of twisted facts
    regarding milk. Read this webpage written by a former colleague of his, to
    find out who he is, before you go believing any of his doctrine:

    http://www.vegsource.com/articles/cohen/

    People need to learn to not jump at believing everything they read on the
    internet, like Cohen's personal biased website!!! Good, organic, raw milk is
    good for you, only the factory farmed, hormone and antibiotic filled, [censored] is
    bad.

    --
    "This life's dim windows of the soul Distorts the heavens from pole to pole
    And leads you to believe a lie When you see with, not through, the eye." -
    William Blake

    Message posted via MedKB.com
    http://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/nutrition/200506/1

  4. Thanks for adding your valuable two cents. I liked it.

  5. 🙂 thanks

  6. Rosie via MedKB.com said:

    Robert Cohen is a flaming lunatic, posting all sorts of twisted facts
    regarding milk. Read this webpage written by a former colleague of his, to
    find out who he is, before you go believing any of his doctrine:

    http://www.vegsource.com/articles/cohen/

    Oh that is really rich!

    Jeff promoted Walsh on his site as a "Dr."
    That term is reserved for medical practitioners. Walsh is a PhD in
    computer science and works for one of the largest European companies
    that trades in millions of pounds of cow milk products annually.

    Quoted message said:


    People need to learn to not jump at believing everything they read on the
    internet, like Cohen's personal biased website!!! Good, organic, raw milk is
    good for you, only the factory farmed, hormone and antibiotic filled, [censored] is
    bad.

    If any milk at all were good for you, it would be human milk not milk
    from an entirely different specie.
    How many people consume human milk past age TWO much less into their
    teen and adult years.

    Quoted message said:


    --
    "This life's dim windows of the soul Distorts the heavens from pole to pole
    And leads you to believe a lie When you see with, not through, the eye." -
    William Blake

    Message posted via MedKB.com
    http://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/nutrition/200506/1

  7. Quoted message said:

    Rosie via MedKB.com wrote:
    Robert Cohen is a flaming lunatic, posting all sorts of twisted facts
    regarding milk. Read this webpage written by a former colleague of his, to
    find out who he is, before you go believing any of his doctrine:

    http://www.vegsource.com/articles/cohen/

    <[email hidden]> replied:

    Quoted message said:

    Jeff promoted Walsh on his site as a "Dr."
    That term is reserved for medical practitioners. Walsh is a PhD in
    computer science and works for one of the largest European companies
    that trades in millions of pounds of cow milk products annually.

    Richard Cohen just may have an abusive personality style - but that
    should NOT detract from his reasons listed in his books and his web site:
    www.notmilk.com on why cow's milk is not suitable for humans.

    btw, "banmilk," do you know the medical reasons why Richard Cohen
    started his www.notmilk.com web site?

    Quoted message said:

    Rosie via MedKB.com wrote:
    People need to learn to not jump at believing everything they read on the
    internet, like Cohen's personal biased website!!! Good, organic, raw milk


    is

    Quoted message said:

    good for you, only the factory farmed, hormone and antibiotic filled, [censored]


    is

    Quoted message said:

    bad.

    Can one actually find good, organic, raw milk at their local
    grocery store?
    Or does the local grocery store only sell factory farmed,
    hormone and antibiotic filled, [censored] type of cow's milk?

    <[email hidden]> replied:

    Quoted message said:

    If any milk at all were good for you, it would be human milk - not milk
    from an entirely different specie.
    How many people consume human milk past age TWO much less into their
    teen and adult years.

    Anyone know of any adult human who consumes human mother's milk?

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