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  1. Hiya
    I went to the lbs the other day to talk to the owner about three
    problems i am having with the tailwind, he has a custom frame shop. the 3
    problems are: braking, flat handlebar - which bothers my wrist, and low
    speed instability.

    I asked about getting a disk brake for the rear. He said it wouldn't work on
    a tailwind. He suggested a brake that he uses on a bent he recently built
    for himself. The nexus roller brake. He is looking into getting a freehub
    version but according to shimano's site they don't sell that one anymore.

    So I may have to go with the internal gear 7 speed. I didn't like the sach
    3x7 that came with a rans wave about 7 years ago. I am hoping there have
    been improvments to the technology. I found the 3x7 to have a hugh amount of
    drag - it felt like i was towing someone around all day. and the high gear
    was even worse.

    I don't like the limited gear range, according to shimano it is the equivant
    of 32-13 tooth cogs. But I can use any size chainrings I want. For awhile I
    had 24,42,62 on the tailwind with a modified front derailleur. The shifting
    on the front was pretty good but there was a problem with chain wrap on
    granny gear. Should be fine with only one cog to deal with on the rear.

    The gear range with a 20t cog and 24,42,62 rings will be 15 to 95 gear
    inches. But the cog can be changed to something smaller, I think 16t is the
    smallest.

    I also asked him about trail then I found excellent advice on this group.
    His answer was to contact rans and maybe they have a fork that could solve
    the problem. But recently, after switching the bars to a wider curved bar
    and using one hand on the slow uphills there is an increase in low speed
    stability.

    Now the handlebars, i replicated rans new curved b-36 bars with off the
    shelf parts. a mtb stem and aluminum retro crusier bars. $46 cdn versus
    $56us plus shipping and duty. and it has helped my fingers from going numb.

  2. "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I also asked him about trail then I found excellent advice on this group.
    His answer was to contact rans and maybe they have a fork that could solve
    the problem. But recently, after switching the bars to a wider curved bar
    and using one hand on the slow uphills there is an increase in low speed
    stability.

    If your low speed stability increases by using one hand on the bars the
    problem isn't with the bike

  3. "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    problems i am having with the tailwind,
    problems are: braking, [...]

    I asked about getting a disk brake for the rear.

    Is the braking problem seen as too little braking power?

    Perhaps there are pad choices or different levers or different
    rim brakes that might help. What problem are you trying to
    solve?

    Jon Meinecke

  4. Merryfreakinxmas said:

    I didn't like the sach 3x7 that came with a rans wave
    ...
    I found the 3x7 to have a hugh amount of drag

    I have a Sachs 3x7 on my Green Gear Tandem Two's Day, and there is no
    discernable drag. I can't imagine what the problem is with yours.

    --
    "Bicycling is a healthy and manly pursuit with much
    to recommend it, and, unlike other foolish crazes,
    it has not died out." -- The Daily Telegraph (1877)

  5. "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    problems i am having with the tailwind,
    problems are: braking, [...]

    I asked about getting a disk brake for the rear.

    Is the braking problem seen as too little braking power?

    Perhaps there are pad choices or different levers or different
    rim brakes that might help. What problem are you trying to
    solve?

    Jon Meinecke

    1/ pads wearing down too fast
    2/ not enough power
    3/ too much maintaince involved

  6. "Mark Leuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I also asked him about trail then I found excellent advice on this group.
    His answer was to contact rans and maybe they have a fork that could
    solve
    the problem. But recently, after switching the bars to a wider curved bar
    and using one hand on the slow uphills there is an increase in low speed
    stability.

    If your low speed stability increases by using one hand on the bars the
    problem isn't with the bike

    others on the group disagree with you

  7. merryfreakinxmas said:

    1/ pads wearing down too fast
    2/ not enough power
    3/ too much maintaince involved

    #1 and #3 go together, and all could be solved by switching to
    Kool-Stop "salmon" color brake shoes. I get 6 months to a year's worth
    of wear from mine in rainy commutes.

    Jeff

  8. "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Leuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I also asked him about trail then I found excellent advice on this


    group.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    His answer was to contact rans and maybe they have a fork that could
    solve
    the problem. But recently, after switching the bars to a wider curved


    bar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and using one hand on the slow uphills there is an increase in low


    speed

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stability.

    If your low speed stability increases by using one hand on the bars the
    problem isn't with the bike

    others on the group disagree with you

    I have no doubt about that however it's not to hard to figure out what the
    problem is if it increases by using one hand, he's overcontrolling

  9. "Mark Leuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Leuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >
    > I also asked him about trail then I found excellent advice on this


    group.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > His answer was to contact rans and maybe they have a fork that could
    > solve
    > the problem. But recently, after switching the bars to a wider curved


    bar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > and using one hand on the slow uphills there is an increase in low


    speed

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > stability.

    If your low speed stability increases by using one hand on the bars the
    problem isn't with the bike

    others on the group disagree with you

    I have no doubt about that however it's not to hard to figure out what the
    problem is if it increases by using one hand, he's overcontrolling


    and using one hand is an easy fix, so what is your problem with doing stuff
    the easy way? this is my second rans bent and they, at least the wave and
    tailwind, are twitchy at slow speeds.

  10. "Jeff Wills" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    merryfreakinxmas said:

    1/ pads wearing down too fast
    2/ not enough power
    3/ too much maintaince involved

    #1 and #3 go together, and all could be solved by switching to
    Kool-Stop "salmon" color brake shoes. I get 6 months to a year's worth
    of wear from mine in rainy commutes.

    Jeff

    They howl toooooo much on the back of the tailwind. I tried a brake booster,
    toeing in, toeing out and many other suggestions. You know in the movies
    when a freight train is nailing the brakes because someone is parked on the
    tracks?

    Well my bike is worse.

  11. "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Jeff Wills" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    merryfreakinxmas said:

    1/ pads wearing down too fast
    2/ not enough power
    3/ too much maintaince involved

    #1 and #3 go together, and all could be solved by switching to
    Kool-Stop "salmon" color brake shoes. I get 6 months to a year's worth
    of wear from mine in rainy commutes.

    Jeff

    They howl toooooo much on the back of the tailwind. I tried a brake


    booster,

    Quoted message said:

    toeing in, toeing out and many other suggestions. You know in the movies
    when a freight train is nailing the brakes because someone is parked on


    the

    Quoted message said:

    tracks?

    Well my bike is worse.

    So these pads mentioned on the hpv list solve the noise, but not the
    other issues?
    http://www.ihpva.org/pipermail/hpv/Week-of-Mon-20050110/035603.html

    And the Koolstop pads didn't work out either?
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/5ece7b740c10e1ec?dmode=source&hl=en

    Hmmm...

    The rear brake on my TourEasy can be difficult to adjust so that it both
    provides good stopping power and doesn't squeal. I've presumed this
    was due to my lack of skill in adjusting the brakes. It usually takes me
    20-30 minutes trial and error to get them adjusted. The problem seems
    worse when the pads are new and the rim is clean. I've tried scuffing
    the pads with fine sandpaper and once, I resorted to putting a tiny amount
    of graphite on the pads.

    It is difficult to find the salmon Koolstop pads in stock at LBS, so I
    haven't tried them. I have the Koolstop dual compound pads on now
    and once I got them adjusted, they have worked well and are usually
    quite quiet.

    Have you talked to RANS about you Tailwind brake problem?

    Jon Meinecke

  12. "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:YgSre.64452$tt5.1309@edtnps90...

    Quoted message said:

    Hiya
    I went to the lbs the other day to talk to the owner about three
    problems i am having with the tailwind, he has a custom frame shop. the 3
    problems are: braking, flat handlebar - which bothers my wrist, and low
    speed instability.

    I asked about getting a disk brake for the rear. He said it wouldn't work
    on a tailwind. He suggested a brake that he uses on a bent he recently
    built for himself. The nexus roller brake. He is looking into getting a
    freehub version but according to shimano's site they don't sell that one
    anymore.

    So I may have to go with the internal gear 7 speed. I didn't like the sach
    3x7 that came with a rans wave about 7 years ago. I am hoping there have
    been improvments to the technology. I found the 3x7 to have a hugh amount
    of drag - it felt like i was towing someone around all day. and the high
    gear was even worse.

    I don't like the limited gear range, according to shimano it is the
    equivant of 32-13 tooth cogs. But I can use any size chainrings I want.
    For awhile I had 24,42,62 on the tailwind with a modified front
    derailleur. The shifting on the front was pretty good but there was a
    problem with chain wrap on granny gear. Should be fine with only one cog
    to deal with on the rear.

    The gear range with a 20t cog and 24,42,62 rings will be 15 to 95 gear
    inches. But the cog can be changed to something smaller, I think 16t is
    the smallest.

    I also asked him about trail then I found excellent advice on this group.
    His answer was to contact rans and maybe they have a fork that could solve
    the problem. But recently, after switching the bars to a wider curved bar
    and using one hand on the slow uphills there is an increase in low speed
    stability.

    Now the handlebars, i replicated rans new curved b-36 bars with off the
    shelf parts. a mtb stem and aluminum retro crusier bars. $46 cdn versus
    $56us plus shipping and duty. and it has helped my fingers from going
    numb.


    If you are looking at an internal hub. Cycling Plus has written about a
    Rohloff Hub that is used in Audax bikes in England.

    You might want to pick up a copy of Cycling Plus - and English magazine for
    some information.

    Doug Thomas

  13. "doug thomas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:YgSre.64452$tt5.1309@edtnps90...

    Quoted message said:

    Hiya
    I went to the lbs the other day to talk to the owner about three
    problems i am having with the tailwind, he has a custom frame shop. the 3
    problems are: braking, flat handlebar - which bothers my wrist, and low
    speed instability.

    I asked about getting a disk brake for the rear. He said it wouldn't work
    on a tailwind. He suggested a brake that he uses on a bent he recently
    built for himself. The nexus roller brake. He is looking into getting a
    freehub version but according to shimano's site they don't sell that one
    anymore.

    So I may have to go with the internal gear 7 speed. I didn't like the
    sach 3x7 that came with a rans wave about 7 years ago. I am hoping there
    have been improvments to the technology. I found the 3x7 to have a hugh
    amount of drag - it felt like i was towing someone around all day. and
    the high gear was even worse.

    I don't like the limited gear range, according to shimano it is the
    equivant of 32-13 tooth cogs. But I can use any size chainrings I want.
    For awhile I had 24,42,62 on the tailwind with a modified front
    derailleur. The shifting on the front was pretty good but there was a
    problem with chain wrap on granny gear. Should be fine with only one cog
    to deal with on the rear.

    The gear range with a 20t cog and 24,42,62 rings will be 15 to 95 gear
    inches. But the cog can be changed to something smaller, I think 16t is
    the smallest.

    I also asked him about trail then I found excellent advice on this group.
    His answer was to contact rans and maybe they have a fork that could
    solve the problem. But recently, after switching the bars to a wider
    curved bar and using one hand on the slow uphills there is an increase in
    low speed stability.

    Now the handlebars, i replicated rans new curved b-36 bars with off the
    shelf parts. a mtb stem and aluminum retro crusier bars. $46 cdn versus
    $56us plus shipping and duty. and it has helped my fingers from going
    numb.


    If you are looking at an internal hub. Cycling Plus has written about a
    Rohloff Hub that is used in Audax bikes in England.

    You might want to pick up a copy of Cycling Plus - and English magazine
    for some information.

    Doug Thomas

    Thanks Doug
    I am not looking for an internal geared hub.

  14. "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1118922443.33248c74fdd64677f77d39e3ad35b486@teranews...

    Quoted message said:

    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Jeff Wills" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    merryfreakinxmas wrote:

    > 1/ pads wearing down too fast
    > 2/ not enough power
    > 3/ too much maintaince involved

    #1 and #3 go together, and all could be solved by switching to
    Kool-Stop "salmon" color brake shoes. I get 6 months to a year's worth
    of wear from mine in rainy commutes.

    Jeff

    They howl toooooo much on the back of the tailwind. I tried a brake


    booster,

    Quoted message said:

    toeing in, toeing out and many other suggestions. You know in the movies
    when a freight train is nailing the brakes because someone is parked on


    the

    Quoted message said:

    tracks?

    Well my bike is worse.

    Do your brakes howl even with light pressure? Mine does.

    Quoted message said:


    So these pads mentioned on the hpv list solve the noise, but not the
    other issues?
    http://www.ihpva.org/pipermail/hpv/Week-of-Mon-20050110/035603.html

    No howl with the "trace" pads but too much maintance ie cleaning the rims. I
    have noticed a buildup of brake goo and water is not a good thing. I don't
    have time to clean my rims every week.

    Quoted message said:

    And the Koolstop pads didn't work out either?
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/5ece7b740c10e1ec?dmode=source&hl=en

    That post was mostly about results after installing a "U" brace, the quiet
    braking didn't last very long.

    Quoted message said:

    Hmmm...

    The rear brake on my TourEasy can be difficult to adjust so that it both
    provides good stopping power and doesn't squeal. I've presumed this
    was due to my lack of skill in adjusting the brakes. It usually takes me
    20-30 minutes trial and error to get them adjusted. The problem seems
    worse when the pads are new and the rim is clean. I've tried scuffing
    the pads with fine sandpaper and once, I resorted to putting a tiny amount
    of graphite on the pads.

    With the roller brake I will never have to replace the pads. I doesn't have
    any. Once in a while I will have to put some high temperature oil in the
    filler hole.

    Quoted message said:

    It is difficult to find the salmon Koolstop pads in stock at LBS, so I
    haven't tried them. I have the Koolstop dual compound pads on now
    and once I got them adjusted, they have worked well and are usually
    quite quiet.

    Those pads are the ones I had trouble with.

    Quoted message said:

    Have you talked to RANS about you Tailwind brake problem?

    A good idea but no I haven't.
    I have very little faith in the people at Rans.

    Seat sliding rearward, Brake howl, Terrible fenders. Seat mesh that falls
    apart. Slow speed twitchiness, double diamond frames can handle both slow
    and high speeds so why can't bents? Basically the only reason I ride a Rans
    is because it was the only bent available in the area that I could ride
    before purchase.

    Quoted message said:

    Jon Meinecke

  15. "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Do your brakes howl even with light pressure? Mine does.

    If the rims are very clean, there seem to be some pad positions
    that result in squeal that begins with light pressure on my TourEasy.
    It gets louder up to a point, with more pressure. I fiddle with the
    pad positions until it goes away.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/5ece7b740c10e1ec?dmode=source&hl=en

    Quoted message said:


    That post was mostly about results after installing a "U" brace, the quiet
    braking didn't last very long.

    Quoted message said:

    I have very little faith in the people at Rans.

    Seat sliding rearward, Brake howl, Terrible fenders. Seat mesh that falls
    apart. Slow speed twitchiness, double diamond frames can handle both slow
    and high speeds so why can't bents?

    Wow, that seems a lot of dissatisfaction to be still interested in
    tweaking the bike to keep it! I can't help but think that there has
    got to be another bike that you would be happier with.

    There's someone with a Tailwind want-to-buy ad on the
    Hostelshoppe for sale list. %^) Of course, there are several
    Tailwinds listed for sale there, already, too. ;- o

    http://www.hostelshoppe.com/cgi-bin/classifieds.cgi?view=bikes

    And perhaps there are bikes there you might consider to replace
    the Tailwind.... There's a EZ-Rider AX 850Z-Rider AX listed
    for $850 and the description says it has disc brakes. Might be
    just the ticket! %^)

    http://images5.theimagehosting.com/ez_rider.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    Basically the only reason I ride a Rans
    is because it was the only bent available in the area that I could ride
    before purchase.

    Yes, I hear that. I bought a BikeE AT in '98 for much the same
    season,-- only recumbent in my price range locally available. I
    still have (and ride) that bike and have much satisfaction still
    with that purchase. I've had and no where near the number
    of issues you've raised. It is interesting that 5 years ago, some
    (perhaps many) people presented the Tailwind as a better
    designed and built bike than the BikeE. Bob Cardone, for
    instance, went from a BikeE to Tailwind and continued to
    blast the BikeE inadequacies for years.

    A few years later, I bought a Tour Easy, sight unseen, seat
    unridden, based on reports from others and research. I had
    literally never seen one in person. I recently turned over 6000
    miles on that bike. And a few months ago, I bought a Volae
    bike used with only a short test ride. Perhaps I've been lucky,
    but I've been happy with all my bike purchases.

    Life's too short to be stuck with a bike you don't like!
    "Follow your bliss." -- Joseph Campbell

    Good luck,

    Jon Meinecke

  16. "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Do your brakes howl even with light pressure? Mine does.

    If the rims are very clean, there seem to be some pad positions
    that result in squeal that begins with light pressure on my TourEasy.
    It gets louder up to a point, with more pressure. I fiddle with the
    pad positions until it goes away.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/5ece7b740c10e1ec?dmode=source&hl=en

    Quoted message said:


    That post was mostly about results after installing a "U" brace, the
    quiet
    braking didn't last very long.

    Quoted message said:

    I have very little faith in the people at Rans.

    Seat sliding rearward, Brake howl, Terrible fenders. Seat mesh that falls
    apart. Slow speed twitchiness, double diamond frames can handle both slow
    and high speeds so why can't bents?

    Wow, that seems a lot of dissatisfaction to be still interested in
    tweaking the bike to keep it! I can't help but think that there has
    got to be another bike that you would be happier with.

    You do have a point but the seat problems have been solved. The fenders were
    modified to make them fit. I'm just trying to make the best of a less than
    ideal situation. The brakes are the last thing I think I need to modify. But
    I would never buy another Rans knowing there could be so many hours spent
    making the bike likable.

    Quoted message said:

    There's someone with a Tailwind want-to-buy ad on the
    Hostelshoppe for sale list. %^) Of course, there are several
    Tailwinds listed for sale there, already, too. ;- o

    http://www.hostelshoppe.com/cgi-bin/classifieds.cgi?view=bikes

    And perhaps there are bikes there you might consider to replace
    the Tailwind.... There's a EZ-Rider AX 850Z-Rider AX listed
    for $850 and the description says it has disc brakes. Might be
    just the ticket! %^)

    http://images5.theimagehosting.com/ez_rider.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    Basically the only reason I ride a Rans
    is because it was the only bent available in the area that I could ride
    before purchase.

    Yes, I hear that. I bought a BikeE AT in '98 for much the same
    season,-- only recumbent in my price range locally available. I
    still have (and ride) that bike and have much satisfaction still
    with that purchase. I've had and no where near the number
    of issues you've raised. It is interesting that 5 years ago, some
    (perhaps many) people presented the Tailwind as a better
    designed and built bike than the BikeE. Bob Cardone, for
    instance, went from a BikeE to Tailwind and continued to
    blast the BikeE inadequacies for years.

    A few years later, I bought a Tour Easy, sight unseen, seat
    unridden, based on reports from others and research. I had
    literally never seen one in person. I recently turned over 6000
    miles on that bike. And a few months ago, I bought a Volae
    bike used with only a short test ride. Perhaps I've been lucky,
    but I've been happy with all my bike purchases.

    Life's too short to be stuck with a bike you don't like!
    "Follow your bliss." -- Joseph Campbell

    Good luck,

    Jon Meinecke

  17. Make the leading edge of the brake pad touch the rim slightly before the
    trailing edge. Then you will have no squeal. There should be no more than
    about 1mm difference.
    Geoff
    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Do your brakes howl even with light pressure? Mine does.

    If the rims are very clean, there seem to be some pad positions
    that result in squeal that begins with light pressure on my TourEasy.
    It gets louder up to a point, with more pressure. I fiddle with the
    pad positions until it goes away.

    Quoted message said:

    >



    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/5ece7b740
    c10e1ec?dmode=source&hl=en

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    That post was mostly about results after installing a "U" brace, the
    quiet
    braking didn't last very long.

    Quoted message said:

    I have very little faith in the people at Rans.

    Seat sliding rearward, Brake howl, Terrible fenders. Seat mesh that


    falls

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    apart. Slow speed twitchiness, double diamond frames can handle both


    slow

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and high speeds so why can't bents?

    Wow, that seems a lot of dissatisfaction to be still interested in
    tweaking the bike to keep it! I can't help but think that there has
    got to be another bike that you would be happier with.

    You do have a point but the seat problems have been solved. The fenders


    were

    Quoted message said:

    modified to make them fit. I'm just trying to make the best of a less than
    ideal situation. The brakes are the last thing I think I need to modify.


    But

    Quoted message said:

    I would never buy another Rans knowing there could be so many hours spent
    making the bike likable.

    Quoted message said:

    There's someone with a Tailwind want-to-buy ad on the
    Hostelshoppe for sale list. %^) Of course, there are several
    Tailwinds listed for sale there, already, too. ;- o

    http://www.hostelshoppe.com/cgi-bin/classifieds.cgi?view=bikes

    And perhaps there are bikes there you might consider to replace
    the Tailwind.... There's a EZ-Rider AX 850Z-Rider AX listed
    for $850 and the description says it has disc brakes. Might be
    just the ticket! %^)

    http://images5.theimagehosting.com/ez_rider.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    Basically the only reason I ride a Rans
    is because it was the only bent available in the area that I could ride
    before purchase.

    Yes, I hear that. I bought a BikeE AT in '98 for much the same
    season,-- only recumbent in my price range locally available. I
    still have (and ride) that bike and have much satisfaction still
    with that purchase. I've had and no where near the number
    of issues you've raised. It is interesting that 5 years ago, some
    (perhaps many) people presented the Tailwind as a better
    designed and built bike than the BikeE. Bob Cardone, for
    instance, went from a BikeE to Tailwind and continued to
    blast the BikeE inadequacies for years.

    A few years later, I bought a Tour Easy, sight unseen, seat
    unridden, based on reports from others and research. I had
    literally never seen one in person. I recently turned over 6000
    miles on that bike. And a few months ago, I bought a Volae
    bike used with only a short test ride. Perhaps I've been lucky,
    but I've been happy with all my bike purchases.

    Life's too short to be stuck with a bike you don't like!
    "Follow your bliss." -- Joseph Campbell

    Good luck,

    Jon Meinecke

  18. thanks but this is info I already know
    the problem was solved by switching to another pad
    the pads on the bike at the time were the dual compound koolstop pads. how
    about 5mm + of toe in and howling with light pressure.

    "X" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Make the leading edge of the brake pad touch the rim slightly before the
    trailing edge. Then you will have no squeal. There should be no more than
    about 1mm difference.
    Geoff
    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:kpRse.78780$tt5.64381@edtnps90...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Meinecke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1119009066.ea03741a4306b17afb5ca84ef97abfc4@teranews...

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    "merryfreakinxmas" <[email hidden]> wrote
    >
    > Do your brakes howl even with light pressure? Mine does.

    If the rims are very clean, there seem to be some pad positions
    that result in squeal that begins with light pressure on my TourEasy.
    It gets louder up to a point, with more pressure. I fiddle with the
    pad positions until it goes away.

    > >


    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/5ece7b740
    c10e1ec?dmode=source&hl=en

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > That post was mostly about results after installing a "U" brace, the
    > quiet
    > braking didn't last very long.
    >

    > I have very little faith in the people at Rans.
    >
    > Seat sliding rearward, Brake howl, Terrible fenders. Seat mesh that


    falls

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > apart. Slow speed twitchiness, double diamond frames can handle both


    slow

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > and high speeds so why can't bents?

    Wow, that seems a lot of dissatisfaction to be still interested in
    tweaking the bike to keep it! I can't help but think that there has
    got to be another bike that you would be happier with.

    You do have a point but the seat problems have been solved. The fenders


    were

    Quoted message said:

    modified to make them fit. I'm just trying to make the best of a less
    than
    ideal situation. The brakes are the last thing I think I need to modify.


    But

    Quoted message said:

    I would never buy another Rans knowing there could be so many hours spent
    making the bike likable.

    Quoted message said:

    There's someone with a Tailwind want-to-buy ad on the
    Hostelshoppe for sale list. %^) Of course, there are several
    Tailwinds listed for sale there, already, too. ;- o

    http://www.hostelshoppe.com/cgi-bin/classifieds.cgi?view=bikes

    And perhaps there are bikes there you might consider to replace
    the Tailwind.... There's a EZ-Rider AX 850Z-Rider AX listed
    for $850 and the description says it has disc brakes. Might be
    just the ticket! %^)

    http://images5.theimagehosting.com/ez_rider.jpg

    > Basically the only reason I ride a Rans
    > is because it was the only bent available in the area that I could
    > ride
    > before purchase.

    Yes, I hear that. I bought a BikeE AT in '98 for much the same
    season,-- only recumbent in my price range locally available. I
    still have (and ride) that bike and have much satisfaction still
    with that purchase. I've had and no where near the number
    of issues you've raised. It is interesting that 5 years ago, some
    (perhaps many) people presented the Tailwind as a better
    designed and built bike than the BikeE. Bob Cardone, for
    instance, went from a BikeE to Tailwind and continued to
    blast the BikeE inadequacies for years.

    A few years later, I bought a Tour Easy, sight unseen, seat
    unridden, based on reports from others and research. I had
    literally never seen one in person. I recently turned over 6000
    miles on that bike. And a few months ago, I bought a Volae
    bike used with only a short test ride. Perhaps I've been lucky,
    but I've been happy with all my bike purchases.

    Life's too short to be stuck with a bike you don't like!
    "Follow your bliss." -- Joseph Campbell

    Good luck,

    Jon Meinecke

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