Health Nutrition and Supplements · Public discussion

Do statins effect performance ?

Started by groskilly · · Last activity · 10 posts · 4,327 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
Health Nutrition and Supplements
Published
14 June 2005
Last activity
8 August 2005
Original author
groskilly
Posts
10
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
4,327
Views / 30 days
0
Topics

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–10 of 10
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. My doctor started me on the cholesterol lowering drug Advicor this past week.
    Advicor is a combination of the vitamin niacin and the statin lovastatin.
    I am concerned that taking statins will adversely effect my cycling performance. I took a 40 mile ride one week after starting the drug and it seemed I was more easily fatigued on hill climbs I normally have no problem with.
    Do any of you have first hand experience taking statins for cholesterol ?
    How did it effect your riding performance, etc ?

    I am 56 years old with around 3 years regular riding experience.
    Doing centuries on a monthly basis.

    Jerry

  2. Niacin shouldn't have an effect on your cycling simply because it's just a vitamin. As far as the statin goes, I can't say for sure. However, is your doctor aware that you're a cyclist? Did he/she take that into consideration and try having you change or increase your amount of exercise before giving you meds?

    I think too many docs go right to the quick fix with drugs and don't take exercise into account. As you probably know, exercise can have a profound effect on cholesterol levels, so I would hope that all other areas (including exercise) would have been exhausted before resorting to medication.

  3. Good question.

    I started Lipitor almost 3 months ago and have the 3 month check this Friday - plan to talk to my Dr. about just this, maybe lowering my dose or trying something else.

    I can't say conclusively that it is the statins but my biking and running have suffered in terms of quicker muscle fatigue. Aerobic endurance has not changed.

    Curious to see if others have felt an impact.

  4. Ever hear of red rice yeast? I think it has five naturally occurring statins. Use it with Q10. My total cholesterol went from 235 to 190. I ride just as fast and long as before. I am 53 yo.

  5. groskilly said:

    My doctor started me on the cholesterol lowering drug Advicor this past week.
    Advicor is a combination of the vitamin niacin and the statin lovastatin.
    I am concerned that taking statins will adversely effect my cycling performance. I took a 40 mile ride one week after starting the drug and it seemed I was more easily fatigued on hill climbs I normally have no problem with.
    Do any of you have first hand experience taking statins for cholesterol ?
    How did it effect your riding performance, etc ?

    I am 56 years old with around 3 years regular riding experience.
    Doing centuries on a monthly basis.

    Jerry


    🙂 Hi Jerry! I just arrived at this site and statins are my primary reason for joining. I suffered devastating side effects from Pravachol and my docs have told me 'no more statins'. I was on the meds for two years before the side effects appeared, so the symptoms were not recognized at first. A couple of friends have mentioned red rice yeast, a natural statin, as an alternative that I should investigate.

    By the way, "hi y'all" from Tennessee.

  6. groskilly said:

    My doctor started me on the cholesterol lowering drug Advicor this past week.
    Advicor is a combination of the vitamin niacin and the statin lovastatin.
    I am concerned that taking statins will adversely effect my cycling performance. I took a 40 mile ride one week after starting the drug and it seemed I was more easily fatigued on hill climbs I normally have no problem with.
    Do any of you have first hand experience taking statins for cholesterol ?
    How did it effect your riding performance, etc ?

    I am 56 years old with around 3 years regular riding experience.
    Doing centuries on a monthly basis.

    Jerry


    It's an interesting question! We are learning new things about statins all the time.

    One of the well known side effects of statins is muscle damage (rhabdomyolysis) but this is rare. If you had it, you'd get muscle pain and a blood test of your CK or CPK level would be elevated. Muscle weakness & easy fatiguability are also recognised. So - yes - you could be riding worse on a statin. The overall risk of these side effects (all of the mentioned ones) is less than 10%.

    Statins have also been shown to reduce mortality from serious infections like septicaemia. The reason for this is unclear and it may be a bogus statistical finding.

    If the muscle problem is affecting you a lot - speak to your doctor. If you are otherwise well (ie normal blood pressure, not diabetic, not obese, not a smoker, no previous angina or heart attacks) and are fit, then the risk from having isolated high cholesterol is pretty small (as long as it is not extremely high). If you have multiple risks for heart disease, then the argument for using some form of drug treatment of your cholesterol is stronger.

  7. patch70 said:

    It's an interesting question! We are learning new things about statins all the time.

    One of the well known side effects of statins is muscle damage (rhabdomyolysis) but this is rare. If you had it, you'd get muscle pain and a blood test of your CK or CPK level would be elevated. Muscle weakness & easy fatiguability are also recognised. So - yes - you could be riding worse on a statin. The overall risk of these side effects (all of the mentioned ones) is less than 10%.

    Statins have also been shown to reduce mortality from serious infections like septicaemia. The reason for this is unclear and it may be a bogus statistical finding.

    If the muscle problem is affecting you a lot - speak to your doctor. If you are otherwise well (ie normal blood pressure, not diabetic, not obese, not a smoker, no previous angina or heart attacks) and are fit, then the risk from having isolated high cholesterol is pretty small (as long as it is not extremely high). If you have multiple risks for heart disease, then the argument for using some form of drug treatment of your cholesterol is stronger.


    Here goes, long story, I'm afraid.

    It's been a year and a half of puzzling symptoms and misery, beginning with both hands and arms aching constantly. Any twisting or wrenching such as wringing out a wet towel would increase the pain for days. Because of my strong family history of arthritis, my internist put me on Cliniril and shortly afterwards, put me on Protonix for reflux symptoms (I was having difficulty swallowing). The pain continued. It became almost impossible for me to bend or twist because of pain in my stomach, ribs, and sides. I had trouble putting on my shoes. I started having pain in my calves. I also began retaining fluid and was put on Lasix but, even with this, my feet and legs were huge at the end of each day and I was sleeping on two or three pillows because the fluid moved up when I lay down. An appointment was made (six months away) for a local arthritis group to see me. My doc suspected rheumatoid arthritis (like the other females in my family) but also began asking questions such as did I have family history of lupus, MS, fibromalgia, myasthenia gravis, etc.
    In the meantime, the pain in my hands and arms had become seven/twenty-four and I was using both hands to pick up a cup of coffee. When I mentioned to my internist that, on top of everything else, it seemed my bladder wasn't working right either because I couldn't 'hold it' anymore, he raised one eyebrow and said, "really?" I think I've finally tapped into something...I'm taking you off your Pravachol TODAY!"
    Within 60 days, the pain had subsided to something I could live with and in another thirty it was gone. The strength returned to my hands and arms and the aches and pains all over my body miraculously left. Since I wasn't hurting anymore, I discontinued the Cliniril and after another 30 days, the reflux symptoms were gone and swallowing was no longer difficult. Sooooo, since I didn't have reflux anymore, I discontinued the Protonix and the swelling left my feet and legs and is still gone. I have something new though. On a routine examination in April, they found a bundle branch block on the left. After extensive testing, a cardiolgy team has diagnosed me with an 'idiopathic, intermittent' bundle branch block, left, and have warned me if I feel faint or lightheaded (syncope) to head to the E.R.
    Now, my doctor is back to square one about what to do to lower my cholesterol. The LDL is high, the HDL is low, and the triglycerides are 'just right'. But he says 'no more statins for you, ever'. The cardiologists agree. This is why I'm checking out the red rice yeast. I'm hoping to learn more about this alternative program.

    I know that was a long dissertation, but that's the way it happened and that's the way it ended. Can't say all that in a few short sentences.

    Thank you!

  8. interesting, i havent god high total cholesterol myself but its very prevalent in my mother's family with many different treatments being tried to lower total cholesterol or specificly LDL.
    my view is not to start at statins but see it as a last option as it lowers LDL too. im not fond of prescription drugs, quick fix is bad.
    term "naturally occuring " can be dodgy in some cases...

    antone said:

    Ever hear of red rice yeast? I think it has five naturally occurring statins. Use it with Q10. My total cholesterol went from 235 to 190. I ride just as fast and long as before. I am 53 yo.

  9. Just because something is "natural" does not make it any safer or more effective. Red rice yeast contains the same active ingredient as lovastatin. Regardless of whether it comes from a bottle or from a natural source, it still inhibits the enzyme HMG Co-A reductase, and in some people, it will cause rhabdomyolysis.

    Just because niacin is a vitamin, does not mean that it is perfectly safe either. Niacin, too, can cause rhabdomyolysis and hepatic (liver) damage, just like a statin, but most people quit taking niacin because they cannot tolerate the flushing it can cause. By the way, strenuous exercise, like cycling, can cause rhabdomyolysis in susceptable individuals.

    Despite the risks associated with these drugs, they do far more good than bad. Recent studies have shown that statins reduce the risk of a heart attack, even in patients whose starting low density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDLc - the bad cholesterol) concentrations were below 100 mg/dl (which was considered to be a very low level for LDLc).

    Check out this link for the latest on cholesterol, and do not rely on a cycling forum to help you make decisions as to what medications you should be taking. nhlbi.nih.govindex.htm

  10. RickF said:

    Despite the risks associated with these drugs, they do far more good than bad.

    ...when prescribed to the appropriate population.

    Extremely well said in the rest of your post. Just to put icing on the cake. Hope you don't mind. 🙂

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.