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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:

    Ok, so if there are 3.34 net carbs in a medium whole tomato when it's raw,
    and 8.14 net carbs in a medium whole tomato when it's cooked...how many
    carbs are there in the heat the cooked them? 🙂

    Today's dinner was baked pollock (three 6-8" fillets), a cup of chopped
    broccoli w/ 1 Tbsp butter and 2 Tbsp shredded sharp cheddar to make a
    "sauce", and 1 medium tomato, sliced in half, scooped out, with a little
    basil and 1 Tbsp mozarella in each half and put into the oven for the last 5
    minutes of the fish's baking time so the cheese would melt and the skin
    would slide off.

    Do I count 3½ net carbs for that tomato, or 8? (I round everything off to
    the nearest half.)

    I'd count it as 3.
    Cooking just cooks the water out of it so makes it more concentrated.
    Start with the "fresh" weight since you are not using a canned or
    pre-cooked product.

    The "size" of the tomatoe changes once it's been cooked IMHO?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  2. Don't know where you are getting your numbers. FitDay says a medium tomato
    if 4 raw or cooked (. If the tomato they measured was canned, it may have
    had sugar added. When counting for recipes, I always use the numbers for
    the raw product as the cooked ones often are calculated with common
    additions.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Sherry <[email hidden]> stated
    | Ok, so if there are 3.34 net carbs in a medium whole tomato when it's
    | raw, and 8.14 net carbs in a medium whole tomato when it's
    | cooked...how many carbs are there in the heat the cooked them? 🙂
    |
    | Today's dinner was baked pollock (three 6-8" fillets), a cup of
    | chopped broccoli w/ 1 Tbsp butter and 2 Tbsp shredded sharp cheddar
    | to make a "sauce", and 1 medium tomato, sliced in half, scooped out,
    | with a little basil and 1 Tbsp mozarella in each half and put into
    | the oven for the last 5 minutes of the fish's baking time so the
    | cheese would melt and the skin would slide off.
    |
    | Do I count 3½ net carbs for that tomato, or 8? (I round everything
    | off to the nearest half.)
    |
    | --
    | Sherry
    | 360/?/195
    | LC since 4/4/05
    | My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  3. Also count your frozen veggies and fruit as raw, but make sure you measure
    when they're frozen. Thawing tends to "deflate" them so 1 cup of frozen
    strawberries shrinks down to about 2/3 cup when thawed for example.

    on Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:49:39 GMT, "FOB" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Don't know where you are getting your numbers. FitDay says a medium tomato
    if 4 raw or cooked (. If the tomato they measured was canned, it may have
    had sugar added. When counting for recipes, I always use the numbers for
    the raw product as the cooked ones often are calculated with common
    additions.

    -----
    Bev

  4. Ok, so if there are 3.34 net carbs in a medium whole tomato when it's raw,
    and 8.14 net carbs in a medium whole tomato when it's cooked...how many
    carbs are there in the heat the cooked them? 🙂

    Today's dinner was baked pollock (three 6-8" fillets), a cup of chopped
    broccoli w/ 1 Tbsp butter and 2 Tbsp shredded sharp cheddar to make a
    "sauce", and 1 medium tomato, sliced in half, scooped out, with a little
    basil and 1 Tbsp mozarella in each half and put into the oven for the last 5
    minutes of the fish's baking time so the cheese would melt and the skin
    would slide off.

    Do I count 3½ net carbs for that tomato, or 8? (I round everything off to
    the nearest half.)

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  5. I have two itty bitty green tomatoes on one of my plants. Along with a lot
    of flowers. We garden in containers in the back yard have done tomatoes for
    several years now. This year I also planted zucchini and some seeds that
    were already sprouting in a spaghetti squash that I cut in half to cook. I
    live in Michigan, too, but we buy tomatoes all year round, the ones that
    come on the stems are pretty good even in the winter.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Sherry <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    | www.carb-counter.org.
    |
    | Blaine uses canned sometimes, and drains and rinses them first to get
    | rid of most of the sugar. Come winter I might also do that but for
    | now, in the summer here (Michigan), I want all the fresh ones I can
    | get! 🙂
    |
    | Thanks!
    |
    | --
    | Sherry
    | 360/?/195
    | LC since 4/4/05
    | My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  6. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't know where you are getting your numbers. FitDay says a medium


    tomato

    Quoted message said:

    if 4 raw or cooked (. If the tomato they measured was canned, it may have
    had sugar added. When counting for recipes, I always use the numbers for
    the raw product as the cooked ones often are calculated with common
    additions.

    www.carb-counter.org.

    Blaine uses canned sometimes, and drains and rinses them first to get rid of
    most of the sugar. Come winter I might also do that but for now, in the
    summer here (Michigan), I want all the fresh ones I can get! 🙂

    Thanks!

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  7. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd count it as 3.
    Cooking just cooks the water out of it so makes it more concentrated.
    Start with the "fresh" weight since you are not using a canned or
    pre-cooked product.

    The "size" of the tomatoe changes once it's been cooked IMHO?

    That is true, the size would change...and would be more concentrated once
    the water was cooked out...but it's still the same tomato as it was before
    isn't it? I could see if I were measuring by cup or something...then again,
    I was never any good reasoning things in my mind that I can't actually see
    or touch. Electricity, for example, I will NEVER understand! 🙂

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  8. "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Also count your frozen veggies and fruit as raw, but make sure you measure
    when they're frozen. Thawing tends to "deflate" them so 1 cup of frozen
    strawberries shrinks down to about 2/3 cup when thawed for example.

    I never thought of that. I've been counting the measure of my cooked,
    previously frozen, veggies in their finished state.

    Oh dang it, now I have to start all over again! <G>

    Thank you Bev-Ann! 🙂

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  9. Sherry said:

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't know where you are getting your numbers. FitDay says a medium


    tomato

    Quoted message said:

    if 4 raw or cooked (. If the tomato they measured was canned, it may have
    had sugar added. When counting for recipes, I always use the numbers for
    the raw product as the cooked ones often are calculated with common
    additions.

    www.carb-counter.org.

    Blaine uses canned sometimes, and drains and rinses them first to get rid of
    most of the sugar. Come winter I might also do that but for now, in the
    summer here (Michigan), I want all the fresh ones I can get! 🙂

    Thanks!

    When you cook foods like tomatoes some of the fiber is broken down into
    digestable carbs. If you check the counter quoted above you'll find
    that the cooked measure is lower in fiber and higher in net carbs.

    Azis

  10. Maybe spaghetti squash, too. Only one of my zucchini seeds came up though I
    understand that may be plenty, but I have several of the spaghetti squash
    plants. I do like spaghetti squash, better than real spaghetti, I never was
    a big pasta fan. Yes, I live in Detroit.

    I make bacon and tomato sandwiches on Romaine lettuce leaves. I use Ranch
    dressing instead of mayo, have to confess I always liked Miracle Whip and
    mayo just lacks a certain zing. I did make some of the Boatmotor mayo today
    to put in deviled eggs but wasn't thrilled with it, either, will have to
    play around with seasonings.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Sherry <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    | Lansing, here...I think I remember - now - you mentioning living in
    | the city of Detroit a while back?
    |
    | I used to grow quite a few tomatoes also, and that's all. I lived
    | most summers on tomato and miracle whip sandwiches and not much else
    | 🙂. Today we were at my favorite produce market and I got a yellow
    | squash and a zucchini, and 2 spaghetti squash...and some tomatoes on
    | the vine also 🙂.
    | I LOVE spaghetti squash and just read a recipe for spaghetti squash
    | patties that I want to try with one of them, and I'll make my
    | spaghetti squash casserole with the other.
    |
    | So you'll be one of those who'll be leaving zucchinis in unlocked
    | cars in parking lots because you have so many that nobody will take,
    | eh? LOL!
    |
    | --
    | Sherry
    | 360/?/195
    | LC since 4/4/05
    | My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd count it as 3.
    Cooking just cooks the water out of it so makes it more concentrated.
    Start with the "fresh" weight since you are not using a canned or
    pre-cooked product.

    The "size" of the tomatoe changes once it's been cooked IMHO?

    That is true, the size would change...and would be more concentrated once
    the water was cooked out...but it's still the same tomato as it was before
    isn't it? I could see if I were measuring by cup or something...then again,
    I was never any good reasoning things in my mind that I can't actually see
    or touch. Electricity, for example, I will NEVER understand! 🙂

    Take a physics class where you get to "create" electricity in the lab
    class...... ;-)
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:

    "Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Also count your frozen veggies and fruit as raw, but make sure you measure
    when they're frozen. Thawing tends to "deflate" them so 1 cup of frozen
    strawberries shrinks down to about 2/3 cup when thawed for example.

    I never thought of that. I've been counting the measure of my cooked,
    previously frozen, veggies in their finished state.

    Oh dang it, now I have to start all over again! <G>

    Thank you Bev-Ann! 🙂

    This is why I use weight to measure rather than volume...
    It takes the guess work out of it!

    The strawberries will weigh pretty much the same frozen or thawed
    (except for perhaps some lost fluids) even tho' the volume (space taken
    up) changes.

    I prefer not to use cup measurements due air space taken up.
    Weight is more accurate.

    Just my 2 cents?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  13. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have two itty bitty green tomatoes on one of my plants. Along with a


    lot

    Quoted message said:

    of flowers. We garden in containers in the back yard have done tomatoes


    for

    Quoted message said:

    several years now. This year I also planted zucchini and some seeds that
    were already sprouting in a spaghetti squash that I cut in half to cook.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    live in Michigan, too, but we buy tomatoes all year round, the ones that
    come on the stems are pretty good even in the winter.

    Lansing, here...I think I remember - now - you mentioning living in the city
    of Detroit a while back?

    I used to grow quite a few tomatoes also, and that's all. I lived most
    summers on tomato and miracle whip sandwiches and not much else 🙂. Today
    we were at my favorite produce market and I got a yellow squash and a
    zucchini, and 2 spaghetti squash...and some tomatoes on the vine also 🙂.
    I LOVE spaghetti squash and just read a recipe for spaghetti squash patties
    that I want to try with one of them, and I'll make my spaghetti squash
    casserole with the other.

    So you'll be one of those who'll be leaving zucchinis in unlocked cars in
    parking lots because you have so many that nobody will take, eh? LOL!

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  14. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe spaghetti squash, too. Only one of my zucchini seeds came up though
    I
    understand that may be plenty, but I have several of the spaghetti squash
    plants. I do like spaghetti squash, better than real spaghetti, I never
    was
    a big pasta fan. Yes, I live in Detroit.

    I make bacon and tomato sandwiches on Romaine lettuce leaves. I use Ranch
    dressing instead of mayo, have to confess I always liked Miracle Whip and
    mayo just lacks a certain zing. I did make some of the Boatmotor mayo
    today
    to put in deviled eggs but wasn't thrilled with it, either, will have to
    play around with seasonings.

    I was thinking Zucchini would be decent sliced in thin rounds raw and used
    as "crackers" cooked zucchini is nasty but I kinda like it raw 😉

    Tori

    --
    Xavier 10/04 "Hey mommy I can reach the middle of the coffee table if I
    stand right here"
    Bonnie 3/02 "No Xayur thats my blankie"
    349.5/324/135

  15. How do you cook zucchini? I like it sauteed in butter with a big of basil.
    Also have a lovely stew recipe from an Italian friend, Italian sausage (I
    like the hot sausage), cut in chunks, chopped onions, green peppers,
    mushrooms, zucchini, garlic, tomatoes (I use canned) and some Italian
    seasoning. Simmer till veggies are done. Delicious and full of good
    nutrition.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Tori M. <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    | I was thinking Zucchini would be decent sliced in thin rounds raw and
    | used as "crackers" cooked zucchini is nasty but I kinda like it raw
    | 😉
    |
    | Tori
    |
    | --
    | Xavier 10/04 "Hey mommy I can reach the middle of the coffee table if
    | I stand right here"
    | Bonnie 3/02 "No Xayur thats my blankie"
    | 349.5/324/135

  16. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe spaghetti squash, too. Only one of my zucchini seeds came up though


    I

    Quoted message said:

    understand that may be plenty, but I have several of the spaghetti squash
    plants. I do like spaghetti squash, better than real spaghetti, I never


    was

    Quoted message said:

    a big pasta fan. Yes, I live in Detroit.

    I make bacon and tomato sandwiches on Romaine lettuce leaves. I use Ranch
    dressing instead of mayo, have to confess I always liked Miracle Whip and
    mayo just lacks a certain zing. I did make some of the Boatmotor mayo


    today

    Quoted message said:

    to put in deviled eggs but wasn't thrilled with it, either, will have to
    play around with seasonings.

    I use mayo but not much; for dips and things I use ranch dressing also, and
    a combination of ranch/sour cream for some things also. I'll try the
    bacon/tomato on Romaine (why not? I eat everything else on romaine <G>😉
    too!

    Never having cared for pasta (husband and daughter love the stuff) I'd
    always fix it for my family and then have spaghetti squash myself. If
    you're going to be in the Lansing area later this summer let me know and
    I'll leave my car unlocked 🙂.

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  17. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How do you cook zucchini? I like it sauteed in butter with a big of
    basil.
    Also have a lovely stew recipe from an Italian friend, Italian sausage (I
    like the hot sausage), cut in chunks, chopped onions, green peppers,
    mushrooms, zucchini, garlic, tomatoes (I use canned) and some Italian
    seasoning. Simmer till veggies are done. Delicious and full of good
    nutrition.


    I think I have only had it some version of fried.. or in multi veggie
    dishes.. it always seems slimy and unapealing.

    Tori

    --
    Xavier 10/04 "Hey mommy I can reach the middle of the coffee table if I
    stand right here"
    Bonnie 3/02 "No Xayur thats my blankie"
    349.5/324/135

  18. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How do you cook zucchini? I like it sauteed in butter with a big of
    basil.


    While I too like it raw, I also like it quartered (lengthwise), marinated in
    Italian dressing for a few moments, and tossed on a hot grill. Actually,
    you can do most veggies that way. Deeeeeelishious!

    DustyB

    Quoted message said:

    Also have a lovely stew recipe from an Italian friend, Italian sausage (I
    like the hot sausage), cut in chunks, chopped onions, green peppers,
    mushrooms, zucchini, garlic, tomatoes (I use canned) and some Italian
    seasoning. Simmer till veggies are done. Delicious and full of good
    nutrition.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Tori M. <[email hidden]> stated
    |
    | I was thinking Zucchini would be decent sliced in thin rounds raw and
    | used as "crackers" cooked zucchini is nasty but I kinda like it raw
    | 😉
    |
    | Tori
    |
    | --
    | Xavier 10/04 "Hey mommy I can reach the middle of the coffee table if
    | I stand right here"
    | Bonnie 3/02 "No Xayur thats my blankie"
    | 349.5/324/135

  19. "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    ....

    Quoted message said:

    I also bought a daikon turnip today, Blaine makes "french fries" out of


    "Daikon turnip?" AFAIK; there's no such thing. A "daikon" is a long, white
    Japanese radish--kinda like your common garden variety "ice-cycle" radish,
    only much larger. It can get up to 24 inches long and nearly 2 in diameter.
    A turnip is a 'top-shaped' root vegetable of an entirely different
    species...

    Regards all,
    DustyB

    Quoted message said:

    those so I thought I'd try that as well.

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  20. "Tori M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was thinking Zucchini would be decent sliced in thin rounds raw and used
    as "crackers" cooked zucchini is nasty but I kinda like it raw 😉

    My plan for both the yellow squash and the zucchini is to make REALLY thin
    strips, toss it with a TBSP or so of high-gluten wheat flour, and deep-fry
    it for a crispy sort of accent side dish. I don't think I'd want a whole
    plateful but it should be nice for a change. I'll let you know how it turns
    out.

    I also bought a daikon turnip today, Blaine makes "french fries" out of
    those so I thought I'd try that as well.

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

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