Dear Friends,
I have just read and signed the online petition:
"Don't let track cycling die"π
hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/1000k/
I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.
Best wishes,
Rooman
The UCI should also lobby to have more cycling and remove other superfluous events too...but well I'm looking in the sky and can't see many flying porkies these days!!
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Done! FRIGGIN INSANITY!
killing off the 1kilo and 500m TT's is nuts!!!
doesnt eat up much time without heats etc (does it?) and to make way for... BMX. Dont get me wrong, i like the idea of bmx at the olympics ntu why not make way thru some other events like all these team sports????
tennis, Baseball (and i spent 20yrs playing it but cant defend its presence there), Hockey, and soon-to-be golf FFS
The olympics arr siding more and more into mediocrity and just commercial [censored] -
flyingdutch said:
Done! FRIGGIN INSANITY!
killing off the 1kilo and 500m TT's is nuts!!!
doesnt eat up much time without heats etc (does it?) and to make way for... BMX. Dont get me wrong, i like the idea of bmx at the olympics ntu why not make way thru some other events like all these team sports????
tennis, Baseball (and i spent 20yrs playing it but cant defend its presence there), Hockey, and soon-to-be golf FFS
The olympics arr siding more and more into mediocrity and just commercial [censored]Too true. Just signed the petition. Grumble, grumble, grumble.... π
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Got my vote. The Olympics has become a corrupt commercial enterprise far
removed from its original ideals based on personal athletic endevour. In
this century it has become synonymous with drugs in sport, product
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Sig533: by... danny clark
"being a kilo rider myself and having a great career in cycling, i find the uci decission to stop the kilo for the olympics a huge mistake, as it narrows the events sprinters can do world wide and earn money and a living. besides, sprinting and the kilo are real great events. this may come as a supprise to many hearing this from me, but the madison should be done with as it is like watching a two man points race, it is so boring and so short and the tallent of todays madison riders is not up to olympic standards. the kilo is a real test of man at full effort against the watch and it is exciting, good luck with the petition, danny"
if they aint gonna listen to the horses mouth (and possibly one of oz's greatest ever trackies) who will they listen to???
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flyingdutch said:
Sig533: by... danny clark
"being a kilo rider myself and having a great career in cycling, i find the uci decission to stop the kilo for the olympics a huge mistake, as it narrows the events sprinters can do world wide and earn money and a living. besides, sprinting and the kilo are real great events. this may come as a supprise to many hearing this from me, but the madison should be done with as it is like watching a two man points race, it is so boring and so short and the tallent of todays madison riders is not up to olympic standards. the kilo is a real test of man at full effort against the watch and it is exciting, good luck with the petition, danny"
if they aint gonna listen to the horses mouth (and possibly one of oz's greatest ever trackies) who will they listen to???
Even "Phil*thevoiceinchinos*Liggett MBE has signed! 2000+ sigs now...add more
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rooman said:
flyingdutch said:
Sig533: by... danny clark
"being a kilo rider myself and having a great career in cycling, i find
the uci decission to stop the kilo for the olympics a huge mistake, as
it narrows the events sprinters can do world wide and earn money and a
living. besides, sprinting and the kilo are real great events. this may
come as a supprise to many hearing this from me, but the madison should
be done with as it is like watching a two man points race, it is so
boring and so short and the tallent of todays madison riders is not up
to olympic standards. the kilo is a real test of man at full effort
against the watch and it is exciting, good luck with the petition,
danny"if they aint gonna listen to the horses mouth (and possibly one of oz's
greatest ever trackies) who will they listen to???Even "Phil*thevoiceinchinos*Liggett MBE has signed! 2000+ sigs
now...add more
πright thats 2209 Signatures Total now...
cheers,
kim
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rooman said:
Dear Friends,
I have just read and signed the online petition:
"Don't let track cycling die"π
hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:
petitiononline.com1000kOpen β
I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.
Best wishes,
Rooman
The UCI should also lobby to have more cycling and remove other superfluous events too...but well I'm looking in the sky and can't see many flying porkies these days!!Currently being discussed on Radio 720 in Perth 1:20pm local time
SteveA
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I may be wrong, but I looked hard and couldnt find a "contact us" link at the UCI web site. www.uci.ch/English
Seems they have removed it as my email to them and who knows how many more may have just got under their defences.....poor diddems
More reason to "sign the petition" set up by Chris Hoy's father.....
petitiononline.com1000kOpen β
do it one and all!
while your at it tell CyclingAustralia and any other feds ()CyclesportsVic etc...) just what you think, make em do something positive and fight this one!
Roo
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SteveA <[email hidden]> wrote in
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I just got number 2,500.
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The petition is up to 4336 signatures. Related news articles on Bike.biz:
Planet UCI: universal disbelief at decision to cull kilo and women's 500m
bikebiz.co.ukarticle.phpOpen β
What colour is the sky in the UCI's world? The online petition aiming to open the IOC's eyes to the UCI's "crazy" decision to jettison not the Madison at the 2008 Olympics but the kilometre time trial and women's sprint is being signed fast and furiously. Chris Hoy has signed, so has Anna Meares, Jason Queally and Phil Liggett. Other big names will follow. PLUS: on 14th June, Jacques Rogge, president of the IOC President, will answer three online questions submitted by members of the public. Could one of them be about the UCI's failure to properly consult national cycle federations about the best two events to cull? (more in article)****************
Which national federations voted against the kilo?
bikebiz.co.ukarticle.phpOpen β
Representatives from the national cycling federations of China, Australia, Britain, and France have all expressed their surprise at the International Cycling Union's decision to drop track time trials at the Beijing Olympics. Official objections may follow. The UCI claims out of 24 national federations surveyed, 19 answered and the majority of them were in favour of dropping the kilo and the women's 500m sprint.
The UCI needs to publish the survey findings, and the questions asked, if it is stem the flow of complaints from Olympians, track stars, bicycle industry figures and cycling enthusiasts. (more in article) -
cfsmtb said:
The petition is up to 4336 signatures. Related news articles on Bike.biz:
Planet UCI: universal disbelief at decision to cull kilo and women's 500m
bikebiz.co.ukarticle.phpOpen β
What colour is the sky in the UCI's world? The online petition aiming to open the IOC's eyes to the UCI's "crazy" decision to jettison not the Madison at the 2008 Olympics but the kilometre time trial and women's sprint is being signed fast and furiously. Chris Hoy has signed, so has Anna Meares, Jason Queally and Phil Liggett. Other big names will follow. PLUS: on 14th June, Jacques Rogge, president of the IOC President, will answer three online questions submitted by members of the public. Could one of them be about the UCI's failure to properly consult national cycle federations about the best two events to cull? (more in article)****************
Which national federations voted against the kilo?
bikebiz.co.ukarticle.phpOpen β
Representatives from the national cycling federations of China, Australia, Britain, and France have all expressed their surprise at the International Cycling Union's decision to drop track time trials at the Beijing Olympics. Official objections may follow. The UCI claims out of 24 national federations surveyed, 19 answered and the majority of them were in favour of dropping the kilo and the women's 500m sprint.
The UCI needs to publish the survey findings, and the questions asked, if it is stem the flow of complaints from Olympians, track stars, bicycle industry figures and cycling enthusiasts. (more in article)heard underground swell is UCI is trying to get up IOC's nose to stick them for refusing extra cycling and demanding new events replace existing, (and IOC had asked this in the name of reducing cost to host city etc, BUT here Beijing actually loses what it thought was a strong medal chance in the Women's 500TT AND it now has to build at great expense a limited use BMX track, totally in opposition to the IOC's original public rationale for reducing events...naturally Jacques Brugge will never admit this, and I doubt we will ever get any clarity (or transparency) from UCI's management committee... BUT Roy and HG will no doubt have terse words when they next get an opportunity to comment on their "mayte" the esteemed Mr JaRRRRRRKZ BREWGAH....what about synchonised swimming, now that's an olympic sport if there ever was one...and badminton, and basketball, and baseball, and soccer, and (soon to be included) golf....sports admin, what a consistent [censored] it continues to be!
keep signing one and all!
roo #442π
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Quoted message said:
BUT Roy and HG
will no doubt have terse words when they next get an opportunity to
comment on their "mayte" the esteemed Mr JaRRRRRRKZ BREWGAH....what
about synchonised swimming, now that's an olympic sport if there ever
was one...and badminton, and basketball, and baseball, and soccer, and
(soon to be included) golf....sports admin, what a consistent [censored]
it continues to be!keep signing one and all!
roo #442π
now I agree on the sychronised swimming
any sport that has ARTISTIC INTERPRETATION needs to be DROPPED
and that includes gymnastics and ice dancing etc
but badminton?
that is one great game that should be in the olympics and if I
understood correctly was only in the Commonwealth Games not the Olympics.
Agree with you on golf,basketball, baseball, not soccer that's
international innit?When are we going to have EXTREEM sportz included? The winter olympics
are showing the way, half pipe and moguls, gawd, 2012 will be the first
showing of supermarket trolley racing down a hill while rotting chooks
get thrown at the participants and waving corporate sponsorship from
KayEfffeckin CeeRoy and HG are going to have a field day with this decision
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Gumby said:
When are we going to have EXTREEM sportz included? The winter olympics are showing the way, half pipe and moguls, gawd, 2012 will be the first
showing of supermarket trolley racing down a hill while rotting chooks
get thrown at the participants and waving corporate sponsorship from
KayEfffeckin CeeRoy and HG are going to have a field day with this decision
We're waiting on Extreme Ironing, Cheese Rolling and Angry Door Slamming to be included in 2016. The IOC could save mega $$$ on the medals - first prizes: a crisp white shirt, 7lb Double Gloucester cheese & a pair of new hinges.
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cfsmtb said:
We're waiting on Extreme Ironing, Cheese Rolling and Angry Door Slamming to be included in 2016. The IOC could save mega $$$ on the medals - first prizes: a crisp white shirt, 7lb Double Gloucester cheese & a pair of new hinges.
unless its held in South Australia (ever!), then the Cycling Events will be car-dooring , Mom truck derbies and bunch ride skittles...and for extreme sports buffalo jump BMX, with MTB mine shaft plunges as a demonstration sport......the velodromes will be used for synchronised commissaire arm waving and a new biathlon where riders carry a .22 rifle slung over the shoulder do a 1000km TT then dismount, run to the 42 degree bank and fire three shots into the crowd, seeking out UCI committees members and Host City budget planners for bonus points....:eek:
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rooman said:
heard underground swell is UCI is trying to get up IOC's nose to stick them for refusing extra cycling and demanding new events replace existing, (and IOC had asked this in the name of reducing cost to host city etc, BUT here Beijing actually loses what it thought was a strong medal chance in the Women's 500TT AND it now has to build at great expense a limited use BMX track, totally in opposition to the IOC's original public rationale for reducing events...naturally Jacques Brugge will never admit this, and I doubt we will ever get any clarity (or transparency) from UCI's management committee... BUT Roy and HG will no doubt have terse words when they next get an opportunity to comment on their "mayte" the esteemed Mr JaRRRRRRKZ BREWGAH....what about synchonised swimming, now that's an olympic sport if there ever was one...and badminton, and basketball, and baseball, and soccer, and (soon to be included) golf....sports admin, what a consistent [censored] it continues to be!
keep signing one and all!
roo #442π
When I was at the China University of Politics and Law in Beijing, I did not see many MTBs or flash roadies like we have here. The cycles were mostly of the utilitarian transport variety. But I can safely say that I saw NO BMX bikes. Nil. Of course there may have been a few hidden away, but I don't think you could say that BMX was big in China or in any special way associated with the host city for the next Olympic Games.
I wonder how they really made the decision?
SteveA
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SteveA said:
When I was at the China University of Politics and Law in Beijing, I did not see many MTBs or flash roadies like we have here. The cycles were mostly of the utilitarian transport variety. But I can safely say that I saw NO BMX bikes. Nil. Of course there may have been a few hidden away, but I don't think you could say that BMX was big in China or in any special way associated with the host city for the next Olympic Games.
I wonder how they really made the decision?
SteveA
that's why they ( the UCI) announced the decision!!!!..bear in mind this is the UCI's decison , not the IOC's nor the Host City's...the Chinese are bloody well miffed and saying so!!! (IOC havn't said much but IOC Pres.Jacques Brugge is going to make a comment this week on the games and will no doubt be having something(discrete?) to say....meanwhile the UCI is probably concocting some [censored]-amamy-feeble excuse for publication( covering butts, sniggering, poking fingers vertically, whatever their agenda happens to be, 'cos we will probably never know(officially)!!let the "flames"...oops "Games" begin !!!:eek:
Bollocks!!!...as opposed to Bolleke which is a great Belgium working man's brew!!
rooπ
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Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
roo #442π
When I was at the China University of Politics and Law in Beijing, I
did not see many MTBs or flash roadies like we have here. The cycles
were mostly of the utilitarian transport variety. But I can safely
sayQuoted message said:
that I saw NO BMX bikes. Nil. Of course there may have been a few
hidden away, but I don't think you could say that BMX was big in China
or in any special way associated with the host city for the next
Olympic Games.I wonder how they really made the decision?
SteveA
Most likely on the basis that since it was a new olympic sport no one
was much good at it so they had a pretty good chance at scoring a medal
if they trained. Oh and the fact that BMX will not favour people who
have powerful not wiry builds. The Chinese have really improved in
track cycling but their men aren't and are unlikely to be competitive.But I thought that their women's team wasn't bad.
The answer is simple. Track cyclists need to drink more Coke. Then
they won't want to offend their target market.Cheers
BrettM
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BrettM said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
roo #442π
When I was at the China University of Politics and Law in Beijing, I
did not see many MTBs or flash roadies like we have here. The cycles
were mostly of the utilitarian transport variety. But I can safely
sayQuoted message said:
that I saw NO BMX bikes. Nil. Of course there may have been a few
hidden away, but I don't think you could say that BMX was big in China
or in any special way associated with the host city for the next
Olympic Games.I wonder how they really made the decision?
SteveA
Most likely on the basis that since it was a new olympic sport no one
was much good at it so they had a pretty good chance at scoring a medal
if they trained. Oh and the fact that BMX will not favour people who
have powerful not wiry builds. The Chinese have really improved in
track cycling but their men aren't and are unlikely to be competitive.But I thought that their women's team wasn't bad.
The answer is simple. Track cyclists need to drink more Coke. Then
they won't want to offend their target market.Cheers
BrettM
Could always have the Chinese version of the road race. 5,000 cyclists in each team. Raced through Beijing traffic. Each competitor to carry 20 chooks, or 3 dozen shoe boxes or a whole barbecued piglet.
Make it a real competition, not just cyclist against cyclist, but cyclist against maniacal Beijing taxi drivers, cyclist against government officials in big black Audis etc.
SteveA
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The Latest from Cyclingnews.com π
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First Edition Cycling News for June 17, 2005Killing the Kilo and 500: the UCI explains
One of the UCI's more unpopular decisions has been to remove the kilometre and 500m time trial from the track program at the 2008 Olympic Games. Cyclists, coaches, fans, politicians, and journalists from all over the world have protested the decision by means of an online petition, which has so far gathered 7000 signatures and will be presented to the UCI and IOC in Switzerland next week.
The UCI has responded to the outrage by issuing a statement explaining its decision. "The International Olympic Committee had approved the introduction of the BMX in the program of the Olympic Games on the only condition that it would not increase the number of medals awarded globally to cycling." This effectively meant that two events would have to be sacrificed from the track program, as both the road and mountain bike programs are already small. There was speculation that the points or the madison would go, or even the keirin, but the removal of the kilo and 500 took many by surprise.
The UCI statement continued, "The decision to remove the events in question ensues exclusively from a detailed study led by the UCI, to whom thus returns the whole responsibility of this choice. Any other interpretation of the situation does not correspond to the reality, and must be considered erroneous.
"The UCI also reminds that this decision was taken in the view to protect the chances of participation to the Olympic Games to the largest number of athletes, given that the specialists of these disciplines are regularly registered also in the events of individual and team sprint."
hmmm, can anyone see any reason actually spelt out in this waffle from the UCI, are they closet politicians who think bulldust can be expressed in [censored] and we will go away!
what does this weird paragraph mean?....anyone, anyone...Ferris ?π
"The UCI statement continued, "The decision to remove the events in question ensues exclusively from a detailed study led by the UCI, to whom thus returns the whole responsibility of this choice. Any other interpretation of the situation does not correspond to the reality, and must be considered erroneous. "
such utter nonsense!!
sign the petition , do we need another petition to seek some transparency in the UCI or is that only in that democracy we dream about!- reality is a nightmare...dreams are goatly induced....hmmmmm more IPA please!
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