Lass Chance said:
OK---the book was received and read cover to cover. Or, cassette to
cassette, as the case may be.
Was it the entire book on cassette? I originally got the two
cassette set and it was a small abbreviation of the entire
book. Wonderfull starting point but I still needed to read
the book to get the rest of the plan.
Quoted message said:The big thing I learned was I dont HAVE to keep adding five carbs a
day/per week until I reach 50 or 60 or whatever my personal magic number
is. I guess I was under the impression one NEEDS to consume as many
carbs in veggies and nuts and so on as can be tolerated for health
reasons.
Moving on the OWL is still the standard plan and the
standard plan is still the result of decades of work
on the part of Dr A to gt the very best results the
most often.
He gives permission to stay low, and there are no
health risks as long as you do follow all of the
rules for Induction (Go to some anti-Atkins sites
and you will see folks who managed to make themselves
sick staying low. None followed the actual rules for
Induction). Do not imagine that "no health risks"
equals "optimal loss for the most people". Go ahead
and try staying low if you want, but the very first
thing to think of at every turn is moving on to the
rest of the standard plan.
Extending Induction is a variation on the process.
It's an authorized variation so there's no health
risk. But the entire process was designed to give
the best loss for the most people. Ask yourself -
Knowing that the entire plan is designed for the
best loss, exactly why are you deviating from the
entire process?
Quoted message said:I was wondering how I was gonna cram THAT many veggies in
Follow the carb ladder and it will be different
veggies rather than more. You can get up to over
40 by eating an entire head of cauliflower, or you
can use the carb ladder and get their with sensible
portions of items not on the Induction list.
Quoted message said:as veggies arent much my thing, anyway.
Whew! Good thing the world works by magic because
I happen to have a "blessed wand of adulthood (8)"
in my hand. Zap! And bingo you magically don't
have problems with veggies any more.
Quoted message said:The only veggie dish Im crazy about happens
to be salad---with a good mix of field greens,
some orange or red peppers for vitamin C
Flippancy aside you aren't in all that bad a
situation. Those *are* veggies. Do take it on
faith that you like more veggies than you think.
Do some afirmations about looking forward to
yummy colorful veggies if that's what it takes.
Cook them less so they are more crisp and better
tasting - some dislike veggies that have been
reduced to mush but when they are done right the
problem goes away.
Children don't like veggies. Adults do like
veggies. If that works to help you through the
process, use it. if there's some other mental
mechanism that will work for you, use that one.
But be clear that disliking veggies is a mental
hurdle inside your mid.
Quoted message said:(since I hate all fruits, especially citrus)
"All fruits" says mental block. A couple of
specific fruits says you have a more specific
dislike. I dislike parsnips and bell peppers
and I like basically all other fruits and veggies
(at least I'm neutral or better about them all).
So the "especially citrus" part doesn't strike me
as a mental block issue.
Quoted message said:It's great t know I dont HAVE to eat more
veggies that I dont even want JUST to get up to a certain number of
carbs.
More or different veggies. See the carb ladder for
what to add when. Week three, more of the same.
Quoted message said:I CAN get the extra carbs by adding more to my salad---a bit of
tomato, a bit of avocado, some sprouts, and so on.
That is an excellent way to get from 20 to 25 for
week three. Good job.
Quoted message said:What's funny is, I have said a gazillion times, "I could live on good
salads and meat," meaning I could live forever without missing most
cooked veggies. What a relief to learn I CAN create extravagant salads
to fill my carb needs, without "forcing" cooked veggies.
Forcing is the key. Don't force. Battle your own
mind and you will fail. Work with your own mind to
change this block. And don't boil those veggies into
submission, pan fry them with oil and garlic only
until they are crispy.
Quoted message said:I DO like asparagus, Brussels sprouts and cabbage, tho....so, it looks
like a more or less perfect arrangement for Life.
Those are core veggies, so I'm not sure what your
problems with veggies are. Work on the other types,
take your time. Try it with an open mind and you
will discover you like many more types than you expect.
And don't be surprised at a couple of strong dislikes.
Quoted message said:I especially took heed to Atkins warnings about the danger of EVER
tempting fate with a piece of sugary desert or white flour
products---Why wake the seeping dragon if you KNOW you're addicted? I
understand that some folks CAN...but Im not one of them, LOL. Im
confident that for me, saying, "This one piece of cake wont get me
started...." would be like a reformed crack addict thinking, "Just this
one little bowl wont hurt me."
A point of Atkins is to add foods back in one by one,
and to do so in a specific order based on risk. One
at a time so if you get problems you knowwhat did it.
Lower risk then higher risk so you build confidence
steadily.
At some point you're supposed to add back in everything
but the highest risk ones. Along the way you are likely
to hit a trigger food. Consider this a *victory* not
a *defeat*. Sure, you'll need to retreat to Induction
for a few days and all that. But since you were adding
one food at a time you learned what triggered it.
Knowledge is power. Knowing your trigger foods gives
you exact knowledge of what to avoid forever. Right now
you're guessing it was the cake. Good guess but not a
sure thing. Was it the sugar in the frosting, the wheat
in the cake, or some of the other ingredients.
Quoted message said:Ive HAD the experience of thinking, "This ONE cigarette wont get me
started smoking agan." Yeah....right. I bought a pack on the way
home....and a carton before the week was out----AFTER three years of NON
smoking.
ONE was all it took. OK---I GET it. For me, forever, NO sugar, NO white
flour. They are poison to me.
Labelling trigger foods poison is a most excellent idea.
But checking them one by one to know which is and which
isn't is an even better idea. Especially if you wait to do
that check until you are well into the plan, you've lost
plenty, you are nice and secure in the process. Atkins
strarts out strict and gets gradually less so. Except
that once you've found what your personal poisons are
you will have to be strict with them. For some their
poisions are anything above some carb level or glycemic
index; for others their poisons are specific ingredients.
