When Beloki fell, how fast were he and Lance going?
How much steeper did it get when he cut straight down the field instead of making the switchback on the road?
I'm thinking they were going 30mph at a minimum, and probably faster than that by a considerable amount. Then Lance put his bike onto an entirely new and even shakier surface, started going down a considerably steeper incline, managed to brake in time to avoid the ditch, jumped it smoothly with bike and started up again almost like nothing had happenned.
When Beloki fell, how fast were he and Lance going?
One site reported 45 mph.
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How much steeper did it get when he cut straight down the field instead of making the switchback on the road?
No clue. The helo footage doesn't help in figuring that out.
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and started up again almost like nothing had happenned.
Is that an accurate assessment?
Yes, he did indeed reintegrate himself into the field with amazing smoothness. The footage at Eurosport shows just how quickly he got back on the road.
Boy, I would have guess closer to 20mph than 30, just based on how far he skidded and how quickly Lance came on him and dodged him. He was started to exit a pretty tight turn; 30 mph is tough on an apex like that.
But, then, I was watching on TV.
The grade question could be answer mathematically pretty easily. It looked like Lance traveled about half as far as the guy's doing the whole turn, therefore his grade was twice theirs. So I would guess 7 degrees for the group, 14 for Lance.
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Boy, I would have guess closer to 20mph than 30,
Me too.
just based on how far he
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skidded and how quickly Lance came on him and dodged him. He was started
to
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exit a pretty tight turn; 30 mph is tough on an apex like that.
But, then, I was watching on TV.
The grade question could be answer mathematically pretty easily. It
looked
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like Lance traveled about half as far as the guy's doing the whole turn, therefore his grade was twice theirs. So I would guess 7 degrees for the group, 14 for Lance.
Boy, I would have guess closer to 20mph than 30, just based on how far he skidded and how quickly Lance came on him and dodged him. He was started to exit a pretty tight turn; 30 mph is tough on an apex like that.
That's A-pecs...
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But, then, I was watching on TV.
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The grade question could be answer mathematically pretty easily. It looked like Lance traveled about half as far as the guy's doing the whole turn, therefore his grade was twice theirs. So I would guess 7 degrees for the group, 14 for Lance.
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Boy, I would have guess closer to 20mph than 30, just based on how far he skidded and how quickly Lance came on him and dodged him. He was started
to
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exit a pretty tight turn; 30 mph is tough on an apex like that.
But, then, I was watching on TV.
The grade question could be answer mathematically pretty easily. It
looked
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like Lance traveled about half as far as the guy's doing the whole turn, therefore his grade was twice theirs. So I would guess 7 degrees for the group, 14 for Lance.
Steve Scarich
I'm thinking b/w 30 & 35mph - but then, they were coming up on the switchback, which is why Beloki was braking. Difficult to say, but Lance's save was incredible - especially since he was sideways for an instant prior to heading down into the grass. Absolutely anything could've happened right then, but he was smiled upon by the cycling Gods for sure. Jeff
Boy, I would have guess closer to 20mph than 30, just based on how far he skidded and how quickly Lance came on him and dodged him. He was started to exit a pretty tight turn; 30 mph is tough on an apex like that.
But, then, I was watching on TV.
The grade question could be answer mathematically pretty easily. It looked like Lance traveled about half as far as the guy's doing the whole turn, therefore his grade was twice theirs. So I would guess 7 degrees for the group, 14 for Lance.
Steve Scarich
It looked like 40-ish mph to me. They were chasing downhill and rounding a gentle turn before that hairpin turn popped up in their line of vision.
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FlashSteve said:
Boy, I would have guess closer to 20mph than 30, just based on how far
he
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skidded and how quickly Lance came on him and dodged him. He was
started to
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exit a pretty tight turn; 30 mph is tough on an apex like that.
But, then, I was watching on TV.
The grade question could be answer mathematically pretty easily. It
looked
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like Lance traveled about half as far as the guy's doing the whole turn, therefore his grade was twice theirs. So I would guess 7 degrees for
the
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group, 14 for Lance.
Steve Scarich
It looked like 40-ish mph to me. They were chasing downhill and rounding a gentle turn before that hairpin turn popped up in their line of vision.
I'll look again on my tape, but the corner they were going through was way too tight for that kind of speed.
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-- -- Lynn Wallace xmission.com~lawallOpen ↗ "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.
I can't see it, but that could be me. I laugh every time I watch it. It's just so wild, whether he was calm cool and collected or hanging on for dear life.
When I'm on my road bike, I ride the road. Like, it'll break if it touches a blade of grass, won't it? So the thought doesn't cross my mind. I can relate to LANCE's massively hard work, training, skill and physical superiority - it's all just a much higher level of what I do to/for myself. But his field crossing stunt? No way would that have been me. At best, I would've ridden the shoulder/ditch for a few meters, likely sliding out and getting back up ASAP.
I've never raced cyclocross but mtb a lot. The equipment under me seems to change my mindset completely.
-- -- Lynn Wallace xmission.com~lawallOpen ↗ "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.
