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  1. Well, last weekend I rode 70 miles, unsupported, near my house. This past
    weekend, I rode 77 miles in an MS ride. Three weekends ago, I road 100km
    (63 miles) in a supported ride. My results:

    100km -- I didn't carb up at all before this ride, and I was hurting for
    the first 1/3 of the ride. I chugged a bunch of carb/protein drinks I
    took with me, and I felt better after about 1/3 the way through the ride.
    The ride was hard, with a lot of climbing and it was wet and cold. 63
    miles took me about 5 hours, 20 minutes (? - I think). The times written
    here include times for stops.

    70 miles -- There's a lot of climbing involved in this ride. I carb
    loaded quite a bit the day before, because the first third of the 100km
    ride wasn't good. I even ate pasta, which I haven't eaten in a long, long
    time. I ordered pasta for lunch and ate half of it. The result? I blew
    through my ride and felt great, until the last 10 miles (which isn't a big
    deal -- as there's two brutal hills in those 10 miles). I rode 70 miles in
    about 5 hours and 40 minutes. So, I rode 7 more miles than the previous
    weekend in only 20 more minutes. I used the rest of the pasta as a
    post-ride recuperation meal. I ate mostly low carb after this, although I
    also went out and mowed the lawn. That's a lot of calories for one day!

    77 miles -- This was flat. There were basically no hills. Had I known
    this, I would've ridden the 100 miler. I did carb load with fruit
    beginning two days before. I had ridden on Friday and the ride was on
    Sunday, so I wanted to ensure that I was carb loaded the day of the ride.
    The good news is that this is the fastest I've ridden in a long time. I
    rode 77 miles in five hours and 20 minutes!! That's fast for me. The bad
    news is that it got brutally hot -- over 95 degrees. The last 1.5 hours
    was rough. I ran out of water, and literally chugged water at the last
    rest stop. My heart rate was also very high during that time.
    Unfortunately, I accidentally deleted my HR data, but I was seeing HRs in
    the 168-172 bpm, which is very high for me, especially since I was riding
    at a relatively easy pace and over flat land. When you're used to cold,
    95 is freaking hot. I didn't take in very many carbs immediately after my
    ride,and my recuperation suffered a bit.

    So far, I've learned that some carb loading before long (60+) mile rides
    is important for performance, as is taking in carbs afterwards. There is
    no noticable deleterious effect on my blood sugar when I take in carbs
    immediately after a ride. In fact, carbs seem to help my blood sugar
    return to normal. I experience no cravings when I eat carbs after a ride
    (unlike at other times). For short rides (20 miles or less), I don't take
    in any extra carbs at all.

    Now, I'm going back to riding shorter bike rides and lifting weights. I
    plan on riding 75-95 miles a week with two days of lifting. I will ride
    40 very hard miles (as many hills as I can pack into the ride) one weekend
    and the next weekend, I'll ride 60 miles with an emphasis on reducing the
    time required. I'll begin in August to build up for another 1-2 centuries
    (100 miles). Last year, I rode 100 miles in a local ride in 8 hours and
    18 minutes. I'd like to take at least an hour off that time and would
    prefer to ride this in under 7 hours. However, this is a very hard ride,
    with a lot of climbing (as compared to the MS ride, which had basically no
    climbing). And, if they include the hill that they put in the 100km ride,
    the 100 miler will be an extremely hard ride, as that hill would occur
    toward the end of the 100 miles, and that hill was so hard that many
    people walked up it. Last year, there was also a ton of wind during that
    century. I also have to hope for good weather.

    So, my goal is to continue to see how many carbs I need, in an effort to
    reduce the amount of carbs to the minimum while still maximizing
    performance. Weightlifting is going to throw another wrench into the
    works, I'm sure.

    --
    Bob M
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  2. Hey, good going! I got envious just reading about those rides.

    Pat in TX

  3. Pat said:

    Hey, good going! I got envious just reading about those rides.

    Pat in TX

    Thanks! This weekend made me wonder how you ride in TX. While I used to
    live in AZ, I've been in CT for four plus years now. I don't remember the
    last time it was hot out, and Sunday it was brutal I thought. I ran out
    of water before the last stop, which is something I never do -- typically,
    I finish a ride with water left over. When you rode the "hotter than hell
    100", that must've been a hard ride!

    --
    Bob M
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  4. Thanks for the update! Very interesting stuff -- and a lot of miles! :-)

    Bob M said:

    Well, last weekend I rode 70 miles, unsupported, near my house. This
    past weekend, I rode 77 miles in an MS ride. Three weekends ago, I
    road 100km (63 miles) in a supported ride. My results:

    100km -- I didn't carb up at all before this ride, and I was hurting
    for the first 1/3 of the ride. I chugged a bunch of carb/protein
    drinks I took with me, and I felt better after about 1/3 the way
    through the ride. The ride was hard, with a lot of climbing and it was
    wet and cold. 63 miles took me about 5 hours, 20 minutes (? - I
    think). The times written here include times for stops.

    70 miles -- There's a lot of climbing involved in this ride. I carb
    loaded quite a bit the day before, because the first third of the 100km
    ride wasn't good. I even ate pasta, which I haven't eaten in a long,
    long time. I ordered pasta for lunch and ate half of it. The result?
    I blew through my ride and felt great, until the last 10 miles (which
    isn't a big deal -- as there's two brutal hills in those 10 miles). I
    rode 70 miles in about 5 hours and 40 minutes. So, I rode 7 more miles
    than the previous weekend in only 20 more minutes. I used the rest of
    the pasta as a post-ride recuperation meal. I ate mostly low carb
    after this, although I also went out and mowed the lawn. That's a lot
    of calories for one day!

    77 miles -- This was flat. There were basically no hills. Had I known
    this, I would've ridden the 100 miler. I did carb load with fruit
    beginning two days before. I had ridden on Friday and the ride was on
    Sunday, so I wanted to ensure that I was carb loaded the day of the
    ride. The good news is that this is the fastest I've ridden in a long
    time. I rode 77 miles in five hours and 20 minutes!! That's fast for
    me. The bad news is that it got brutally hot -- over 95 degrees. The
    last 1.5 hours was rough. I ran out of water, and literally chugged
    water at the last rest stop. My heart rate was also very high during
    that time. Unfortunately, I accidentally deleted my HR data, but I was
    seeing HRs in the 168-172 bpm, which is very high for me, especially
    since I was riding at a relatively easy pace and over flat land. When
    you're used to cold, 95 is freaking hot. I didn't take in very many
    carbs immediately after my ride,and my recuperation suffered a bit.

    So far, I've learned that some carb loading before long (60+) mile
    rides is important for performance, as is taking in carbs afterwards.
    There is no noticable deleterious effect on my blood sugar when I take
    in carbs immediately after a ride. In fact, carbs seem to help my
    blood sugar return to normal. I experience no cravings when I eat
    carbs after a ride (unlike at other times). For short rides (20 miles
    or less), I don't take in any extra carbs at all.

    Now, I'm going back to riding shorter bike rides and lifting weights.
    I plan on riding 75-95 miles a week with two days of lifting. I will
    ride 40 very hard miles (as many hills as I can pack into the ride) one
    weekend and the next weekend, I'll ride 60 miles with an emphasis on
    reducing the time required. I'll begin in August to build up for
    another 1-2 centuries (100 miles). Last year, I rode 100 miles in a
    local ride in 8 hours and 18 minutes. I'd like to take at least an
    hour off that time and would prefer to ride this in under 7 hours.
    However, this is a very hard ride, with a lot of climbing (as compared
    to the MS ride, which had basically no climbing). And, if they include
    the hill that they put in the 100km ride, the 100 miler will be an
    extremely hard ride, as that hill would occur toward the end of the 100
    miles, and that hill was so hard that many people walked up it. Last
    year, there was also a ton of wind during that century. I also have to
    hope for good weather.

    So, my goal is to continue to see how many carbs I need, in an effort
    to reduce the amount of carbs to the minimum while still maximizing
    performance. Weightlifting is going to throw another wrench into the
    works, I'm sure.

    --
    jmk in NC

  5. "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks! This weekend made me wonder how you ride in TX. While I used to
    live in AZ, I've been in CT for four plus years now. I don't remember the
    last time it was hot out, and Sunday it was brutal I thought. I ran out
    of water before the last stop, which is something I never do -- typically,
    I finish a ride with water left over. When you rode the "hotter than hell
    100", that must've been a hard ride!

    I think I've heard of that, the Hotter 'n Hell 100, in Wichita Falls

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  6. : > Thanks! This weekend made me wonder how you ride in TX. While I used
    to
    : > live in AZ, I've been in CT for four plus years now. I don't remember
    the
    : > last time it was hot out, and Sunday it was brutal I thought. I ran out
    : > of water before the last stop, which is something I never do --
    typically,
    : > I finish a ride with water left over. When you rode the "hotter than
    hell
    : > 100", that must've been a hard ride!
    :
    :
    : I think I've heard of that, the Hotter 'n Hell 100, in Wichita Falls

    last year was the best year to do it: cool and rainy! The year before, I
    think it was 106 F. One of the problems with the HHH is that you finish in
    a head wind + it's after noontime (and that means the hottest part of the
    day). From about 70 miles on, it's more of a test of will than physical
    ability. You learn a lot about yourself on those long rides. I've seen
    people get to the 90 mile point and give up! Just give up! Unbelievable!

    Pat in TX

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