Innovative?

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:11:17 +0100, "Sean Kerslake"
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I was just wondering what people thought of it and if they had seen
[specific] similiar designs which I could cite.

It looks to me to be trying to replicate the flat storage of the
Burrows 2D, but without the decades of bike design experience.

http://www.halffg.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/foldsoc/IMG_0412a.jpg

and this is Mike:

http://www.halffg.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/foldsoc/IMG_0410a.jpg

(from http://www.halffg.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/foldsoc/cf2004.html)

Hey! I was there!

Incidentally, Richard Ballantine owns a 2D.

But none of these are half as good as a Brompton :-)

Guy
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Sean Kerslake said:

Its looks are 'wowwing' my colleagues into giving it a very good mark and
I'm being the spoil sport because having seen alot of bike designs from the
last 100 plus years, I don't think it is that 'wow'.

It's ugly.

Quoted message said:

Hi guys,

Have a look at the pictures at:
http://www-staff.lboro.ac.uk/~cdspk/index.html

This is one of my students projects which we are currently marking and
having heavy debates about.

Its looks are 'wowwing' my colleagues into giving it a very good mark and
I'm being the spoil sport because having seen alot of bike designs from the
last 100 plus years, I don't think it is that 'wow'.

I would say that an "urban" bike should have some means of carrying
some minimal amount of cargo, and should break down for easy storage.
It should also incorporate some effective antitheft measures. I
don't find the frame design particularly appealing, and no cover over
the chain means it's going to mess up clothing. I like the fenders.
Not enough bikes have them these days.

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I think the student made the mistake of pushing the frame aesthetics and not
the flat pack delivery, self assembly part of his brief.

I don't understand the benefit of one-time self assembly. Most people
aren't very good with even simple mechanical tasks. If it can be
broken down for storage in a small space and reassembled quickly and
easily, it's good. The frame isn't particularly appealing.

Quoted message said:

I was just wondering what people thought of it and if they had seen
[specific] similiar designs which I could cite.

I like the lucabike, but it's expensive as all get-out.
www.lucabike.com

I agree with the opinion "ugly".
In north america, particularly in the US, letting the consumer assemble the
bike is asking for lawsuits.
This front fender, like most does not go forward far enough. In order to
keep water from the tire from blowing up in the cyclists face, it needs to
carry at least 25° farther forward.
Bruce

"Sean Kerslake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi guys,

Have a look at the pictures at:
http://www-staff.lboro.ac.uk/~cdspk/index.html

This is one of my students projects which we are currently marking and
having heavy debates about.

Its looks are 'wowwing' my colleagues into giving it a very good mark and
I'm being the spoil sport because having seen alot of bike designs from

the

Quoted message said:

last 100 plus years, I don't think it is that 'wow'.

I think the student made the mistake of pushing the frame aesthetics and

not

Quoted message said:

the flat pack delivery, self assembly part of his brief.

I was just wondering what people thought of it and if they had seen
[specific] similiar designs which I could cite.

Cheers for any feedback, Sean

PS. Please go to the UK New Designers Exhibition web site and vote for

the

Quoted message said:

Moulton as a more significant iconic design than the iPod -
http://www.newdesigners.com/

Sean Kerslake
Design and Tech
Loughborough Uni
UK

Reminds me of a LIKEaBIKE: http://www.engadget.com/entry/9660112788943201/

Sean Kerslake said the following on 4/6/2005 4:11:

Quoted message said:

Hi guys,

Have a look at the pictures at:
http://www-staff.lboro.ac.uk/~cdspk/index.html

This is one of my students projects which we are currently marking and
having heavy debates about.

Its looks are 'wowwing' my colleagues into giving it a very good mark and
I'm being the spoil sport because having seen alot of bike designs from the
last 100 plus years, I don't think it is that 'wow'.

I think the student made the mistake of pushing the frame aesthetics and not
the flat pack delivery, self assembly part of his brief.

I was just wondering what people thought of it and if they had seen
[specific] similiar designs which I could cite.

Cheers for any feedback, Sean

PS. Please go to the UK New Designers Exhibition web site and vote for the
Moulton as a more significant iconic design than the iPod -
http://www.newdesigners.com/

Sean Kerslake
Design and Tech
Loughborough Uni
UK