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  1. can any 1 tell me how to coast pleese i just cant do it😠 πŸ˜•
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  2. Roger gave us a quick intro at Kidderminster. Basically learn to WW
    first, then 1 foot WW, then all u need to do is push hard with 1 ft and
    control ur speed with the pushing foot resting on the crown. You have to
    be able to balance with both feet on the crown though.

    Good Luck...

    Loose.

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  3. uni-matt said:

    can any 1 tell me how to coast pleese i just cant do it😠 πŸ˜•
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    Method 1:

    Ride along, take one foot off, ride 1ft, take other foot off, fall off.
    Repeat until you can coast.

    Method 2:

    Learn to glide.
    Use your braking foot less and less.
    You are now coasting.

    Note that this advice comes from the man whose maximum coast is about 3
    metres. I find falling off most unnerving when coasting because you're
    balanced so carefully that you don't know if you'll come off the front or
    back.

    Cheers,

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  4. Quoted message said:

    Roger gave us a quick intro at Kidderminster. Basically learn to WW
    first, then 1 foot WW, then all u need to do is push hard with 1 ft
    and control ur speed with the pushing foot resting on the crown. You
    have to be able to balance with both feet on the crown though.

    As long as one of your feet is touching the wheel, it's gliding. For
    coasting there is no contact between you and the pedals/wheel. Instead
    you maintain balance by how you move your upper body, and one of your
    legs, if you're coasting leg extended.

    To learn to coast, first get really good at one-footed riding, so that
    you can ride along smoothly, at a steady speed, and without accelerating
    or braking the wheel in any way. Actually you don't need to be quite
    that good at one-footed riding to start learning to coast, but after a
    little while working on this skill, you will have one-footed riding down
    this well. Although it would probably be advisable to learn to glide
    before working seriously on coasting, this isn't necessary, since the
    balancing mechanisms are quite different for the two skills.
    Now you can move on to the actual coasting. From smooth one-footed
    riding at a not too fast or too slow rate, take the pedalling foot off
    and let it hang next to the spinning pedal. In all likelihood, you will
    fall off immediately. It is of utmost importance that at this point you
    do not kick the pedal or affect it in anyway. You need to coast off at
    the same speed, balanced in the same way which you were before starting
    the coast. Practice this step for a while until you are comfortable with
    taking your foot off the pedal and falling off. You will find that you
    sometimes coast short distaces without trying very hard. It is a great
    feeling when it does happen.
    When you are comfortable with this, you can start working on balancing
    in this position and experimenting with various postures. There are two
    basic ways to coast; either with one leg extended and the other on the
    fork, or with both feet resting solidly on the fork. I recommend that
    you experiment with both to find which way works for you, keeping in
    mind however that most unicyclists seem to find coasting with both feet
    on the fork easier. Although it is harder to get into and easier to fall
    from improperly, it offers more stability. The basic balancing mechanism
    for coasting is a rocking motion that is rather difficult to explain. I
    suggest watching some videos or actually watching other unicyclists
    coast if possible so that you will know when you are balancing properly.
    If you are falling off forwards, you need to lean forward by bending at
    the waist. This will cause your waist region to move back and the wheel
    to move forward also, thus correcting your balance. If you are too far
    back, lean back. I find the forward adjustments a lot easier. One
    important tip to balance yourself properly is to keep your arms straight
    and raise them nearly vertical. Some riders keep their arms farther down
    when they coast, but almost all extend them in some way. Experiment with
    various arm positions and find what works for you. I suggest trying to
    switch to coasting with both feet on fork after you have worked on the
    leg extended variation for perhaps a a while. Try to plant both feet
    solidly on the fork. I find it even helps to squeeze the seat post
    tightly between my feet. This will probably work best if your frame has
    a nice solid square fork which offers a lot of support.
    Coasting is an extremely difficult skill, and one which requires a lot
    of commitment to learn. It took me six months of hard practice. But if
    you keep with it, you will have a highly enjoyably skill that is very
    satisfying and also impressive. It is worth it.
    Once you can coast smoothly for a ways, try getting out of it. The
    easiest method is to switch to gliding, then to wheel walking, then to
    the pedals. Getting out of coasting is a relatively easy skill, which
    probably does not require much advice.

    Quoted message said:

    Method 1:

    Ride along, take one foot off, ride 1ft, take other foot off, fall
    off.
    Repeat until you can coast.

    Method 1 worked for me, although it took at least six months.

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  5. Loosemoose said:

    Roger gave us a quick intro at Kidderminster.

    So who were you at Kidderminster? What do you look like? I was there and
    rode a two wheeler.

    Cheers,

    Roger

  6. jsm said:

    To learn to coast, first get really good at one-footed riding, so that
    you can ride along smoothly, at a steady speed, and without accelerating
    [...]
    fall off immediately. It is of utmost importance that at this point you
    do not kick the pedal or affect it in anyway. You need to coast off at
    [...]
    suggest watching some videos or actually watching other unicyclists
    coast if possible so that you will know when you are balancing properly.
    [...]
    you keep with it, you will have a highly enjoyably skill that is very
    satisfying and also impressive. It is worth it.

    Blah blah blah... and what would YOU know about it? Huh?

    πŸ˜‰

    Seriously... many thanks for this highly informative and interesting post
    - lots to think about and try out. Makes me want to jump straight on my
    uni and try it out! Six months from today... let's see...

    Cheers,

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  7. You must glide, grasshopper. Gliding is the gateway to coasting. Gliding
    is freedom from pedaling! To glide is to not have to have your feet
    going round and round constantly. Ahhhh. Coasting is the ultimate
    expression of this.

    Coasting backwards? That's more points, and more hard.

    Balance is maintained, aside from tons of practice, by one or both feet
    on the frame. The best frames for this have square crowns and clamps you
    can hook your heel behind.

    My best competition coast ever was on a *borrowed* unicycle that had a
    fat clamp and a square fork (like a Semcycle XL). I went about 80
    meters! Somewhere out there is a picture of the top five coasters from
    Unicon VIII, of which I had the honor to be one (along with Yuichiro
    Kato, Julien Monny and others). I couldn't find a copy.

    With both feet on the frame it's easier to go straight. With one foot
    extended it's easier to turn in the direction of that foot. With no feet
    on the frame (as seen here:http://www.unicycling.com/things/index.htm#3)
    it really doesn't work.

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  8. can you glide yet matt?

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  9. Quoted message said:

    You must glide, grasshopper. Gliding is the gateway to coasting.

    I don't think gliding is really necessary for coasting. I started work
    on coasting well before I started work on gliding, and although I did
    get gliding first, because it's so much easier, I think I would have
    gotten coasting in the end without gliding.

    Quoted message said:

    Balance is maintained, aside from tons of practice, by one or both
    feet on the frame.

    Maybe you coast different than I do, or maybe I'm not quite getting your
    point, but when I coast, my feet are hardly involved in the balancing
    process at all. (unless I coast leg extended) They just sit tight on the
    frame. I maintain balance by moving my upper body, my arms especially,
    up and down as necessary.

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  10. jsm said:

    *I don't think gliding is really necessary for coasting.*


    The idea in coasting is to help the athlete find the best/easiest/most
    educational (sometimes different priorities) way to do the skill. In
    this case, you can learn to glide first, which is like training wheels,
    or skip the training wheels and go straight to the bike with no
    spotter.

    Quoted message said:

    *Maybe you coast different than I do, or maybe I'm not quite getting
    your point, but when I coast, my feet are hardly involved in the
    balancing process at all.*


    Try it without your feet on the frame and you'll know what I mean. πŸ™‚

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  11. matt has been working on it all day and can go a few metres. here is a
    pic.

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  12. Quoted message said:

    matt has been working on it all day and can go a few metres. here is a
    pic.

    That's pretty good! How long it takes to learn coasting varies wildly
    between different riders. Jesse Berg, for instance, told me he got it in
    one day. So keep up the practicing. You never know what might happen.

    Is he doing it on a 24" wheel in that picture?

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  13. no. he is on a 20" kh freestyle. it looks bigger cos he is quite
    small!:p

    amandaπŸ˜‰

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  14. yeah, it is possible to learn in a short period, it took me well over a
    year but that was infrequent practise. a friend of mine learnt to go for
    at least ten metres, quite consistently, at a BUC! which annoyed me
    because i couldnt get it😠

    i advise learning gliding first because its just as much fun, maybe even
    more, and its 10 times easier (at least it was for me).

    keep it up dudes,

    iain

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  15. When I lived in London a firiend of mine, Trevor (not that one), decided
    he wanted to coast and just went for it. I think his only other trick
    was riding one footed (Certainly no wheel walking or gliding). He just
    rode as fast as he could one footed then took the other foot off.

    He fell off a lot but he got the hang of coasting pretty quickly. Took a
    few weeks. He won the coasting comp at BUC that year.

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  16. nickjb said:

    *When I lived in London a firiend of mine, Trevor (not that one),
    decided he wanted to coast and just went for it.*

    I'm pretty sure that same Trevor was the 1st ever person I ever saw
    coasting. I was stunned when I saw it in front of me, even though I
    allready read before about it. Two weeks later I was able to do it
    myself. I took the "gliding-gateway", but I will never say you MUST
    learn gliding before coasting. I rather agree on Nike's slogan: Just do
    it!

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