Re: Help!

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Never really accompanied by GI symptoms. I have seen a
gastroenterologist and had motility studies and a colonoscopay. The
colonoscopy was normal. I have slow right side colon transit which is
why I am constipated all the time. I take 4 tablesponns of Milk of
Magnesia every night as a result. I have been this way even before the
fevers and night sweats.

Hate to suggest this, but have you had an HIV test?

As for your chronic bowel thing, you need to take a SERIOUS look at your
diet!

Ever considered giving up wheat?

You might not need the MOM if you do that. ;-)
20% of the population of America is sensitive or allergic to wheat.
(This according to a brochure I read in the waiting room at the VA
hospital on wheat allergies).

1 in 5. That's a LOT of humans.

I've had IBS all my life. The constipating kind.
Since I gave up wheat, it's pretty well under control now.
Potatoes and white rice had to go as well.

I'm all better now!

It's amazing what a diet of nearly all fresh, high fiber foods can do
for you. I still eat meat with every meal, but add lots of fresh, mostly
steamed or stir fried veggies on the side.

Fiber rulz.

It IS possible that food sensitivities/allergies might be a cause of
your fevers.

One doctor I had in the past (that was really responsible for "curing"
my IBS) told me to keep a food log.

Write down what I ate and how I felt that day. He had a strong (and
correct) idea that most of my chronic GI problems were food related.

It worked. ;-)

Write down what you eat and what your temp. is every day for 6 months to
a year. Might help, sure won't hurt! Might help your bowel problems too.
I'm 43. I did not start learning about this sort of thing until I was
about 32 or so. It's made a WORLD of difference in my life!

Better late than never eh? <lol>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Plenty of things you can try, but I'd call it early stages of
"multi-system failure," as some doctors have called "aging." Anyway,
the first thing I'd advise is to remove sources of oxidative stress
from dietary sources (and all others, but diet is usually the worst,
unless you work in and industry that is polluting your body with
dioxins or something like that). Get rid of all the highly unsaturated
oils in your house, and don't eat any food that are homogenized. Only
boil any meat or eggs you eat, and avoid baked or processed foods with
eggs or dairy in them (because they are powdered and hence, oxidized).

What you can eat/drink:
white tea, seltzer/club soda, small amounts of organic red wine.

Butter, boiled eggs, sauerkraut, lightly cooked broccoli, dark
chocolate, cheese, any pure coconut product, plain whole-milk yogurt,
shellfish from unpolluted waters, and just about any fruit. Try to get
all organic food, if possible. Grains are okay in small amounts. I
make my own bread with organic, unbleached flour, but the whole grains
are hard to digest, so avoid them. No beans or seeds, due to potential
digestive problems and oxidative stress from the unsaturated fatty
acids (especially in nuts like walnuts, though a fresh Brazil nut now
and then should be okay - and I mean one nut, not a bag).

Once you remove all sources of oxidative stress, you can see what
happens with your symptoms. You are at a point that a doctor of many
decades ago, Hans Selye, noted, when he said that so many people come
to see doctors with such symptoms, and the doctors do tests then tell
them they're okay, then they come back in a few months or a year and
are in really bad shape with a "real disease." Most "diseases" are due
to oxidative stress as the root cause, so if you remove that, a "real
disease" may never develop.

Also, you can check your BP and pulse while lying down for a while then
again after standing up for a while to see if you have delayed
orthostatic intolerance. That can deprive your brain of oxygen and
cause all kinds of problems. Do a search for it and read up on it, if
your BP goes down upon standing up a while, but your heart beat goes up.

montygram said:

dioxins or something like that). Get rid of all the highly unsaturated
oils in your house, and don't eat any food that are homogenized. Only

Your comments about avoiding food which are homogenized will not
please the cow's milk drinkers who like to buy homogenized cow's milk at
their local grocery store.

If scientists aimed to please we would still believe the earth is flat.
Fatty acid expert Mary Enig pointed out the dangerous of homogenized
dairy (and eggs, in processed products), in terms of lipid
peroxidation. If anyone does not "believe" this, a fairly inexpensive
experiment can be done to verify such claims. Also, there are
non-homogenized milk sellers around. I can buy it in a local store.
It takes an extra step to homogenize, so it would be cheaper to do away
with homogenization - it serves no health purpose, and the "smoothness"
it creates can be accomplished by stirring the non-homogenize product.

montygram said:

If scientists aimed to please we would still believe the earth is flat.
Fatty acid expert Mary Enig pointed out the dangerous of homogenized
dairy (and eggs, in processed products), in terms of lipid
peroxidation. If anyone does not "believe" this, a fairly inexpensive
experiment can be done to verify such claims. Also, there are
non-homogenized milk sellers around. I can buy it in a local store.
It takes an extra step to homogenize, so it would be cheaper to do away
with homogenization - it serves no health purpose, and the "smoothness"
it creates can be accomplished by stirring the non-homogenize product.

But those non-homogenized milk sellers do NOT include the
local grocery store where most cow's milk drinkers buy their milk. But
would the sales of cow's milk decline at the local grocery store if cow's
milk buyers had to shake up their non-homogenized cow's milk?

In the mid-1950s when cow's milk was still delivered by dairy
delivery vans, a family could save by buying non-homogenized cow's milk for
a few cents less per gallon. And shake up the milk bottle themselves.

Quoted message said:

It takes an extra step to homogenize, so it would be cheaper to do away
with homogenization - it serves no health purpose, and the "smoothness"
it creates can be accomplished by stirring the non-homogenize product.

The homogenization of cow's milk creates additional health
problems for the human body.

Dairy, period causes too many problems for human consumption. This is why
the dairy industry has had to make so many changes over the last 40 years.
Homogenization
pasteurization
filtration
fortification
low fat
skimming
particulate addition.

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Quoted message said:

montygram said:

If scientists aimed to please we would still believe the earth is flat.
Fatty acid expert Mary Enig pointed out the dangerous of homogenized
dairy (and eggs, in processed products), in terms of lipid
peroxidation. If anyone does not "believe" this, a fairly inexpensive
experiment can be done to verify such claims. Also, there are
non-homogenized milk sellers around. I can buy it in a local store.
It takes an extra step to homogenize, so it would be cheaper to do away
with homogenization - it serves no health purpose, and the "smoothness"
it creates can be accomplished by stirring the non-homogenize product.

But those non-homogenized milk sellers do NOT include the
local grocery store where most cow's milk drinkers buy their milk.

But

Quoted message said:

would the sales of cow's milk decline at the local grocery store if cow's
milk buyers had to shake up their non-homogenized cow's milk?

In the mid-1950s when cow's milk was still delivered by

dairy

Quoted message said:

delivery vans, a family could save by buying non-homogenized cow's milk

for

Quoted message said:

a few cents less per gallon. And shake up the milk bottle themselves.

Quoted message said:

It takes an extra step to homogenize, so it would be cheaper to do away
with homogenization - it serves no health purpose, and the "smoothness"
it creates can be accomplished by stirring the non-homogenize product.

The homogenization of cow's milk creates additional health
problems for the human body.

Pizza Girl said:

Dairy, period causes too many problems for human consumption. This is why
the dairy industry has had to make so many changes over the last 40 years.
Homogenization
pasteurization
filtration
fortification
low fat
skimming
particulate addition.

Pizza Girl, you forgot to include the addition of growth hormones.

Too bad that the average person 40 years ago do NOT know about
the adverse health effects of consuming dairy products.

I eat a lot of organic, raw cheese. My concern is what the animals are
fed. I would prefer it if the animals were fed coconut, as they are on
some islands in the South Pacific, because then the cheese would be
higher in saturated fatty acids, and thus a bit healthier.

On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:15:48 -0400, Pizza Girl wrote in
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sci.med.nutrition,alt.health,misc.health.alternative :

Quoted message said:

Dairy, period causes too many problems for human consumption. This is why
the dairy industry has had to make so many changes over the last 40 years.
Homogenization
pasteurization
filtration
fortification
low fat
skimming
particulate addition.

Do you usually eat raw meat or raw grains?

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Enrico C

On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:15:48 -0400, Pizza Girl wrote in
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sci.med.nutrition,alt.health,misc.health.alternative :

Quoted message said:

Dairy, period causes too many problems for human consumption. This is why
the dairy industry has had to make so many changes over the last 40 years.
Homogenization
pasteurization
filtration
fortification
low fat
skimming
particulate addition.

Do you usually eat raw meat or raw grains?

X'Posted to: sci.med.nutrition,alt.health,misc.health.alternative

--
Enrico C

Pizza Girl said:

Dairy, period causes too many problems for human consumption. This is why
the dairy industry has had to make so many changes over the last 40 years.
Homogenization
pasteurization
filtration
fortification
low fat
skimming
particulate addition.

That doesn't seem like many changes to me in 40 years (compared to
many other products). I think the grain industry has probably gone
though as much, or more, changes. Just 10 years ago, everyone was
buying plain, white bread. Look at all the options in the bread isle
now (not to mention the cereal isle)!

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Renegade5 said:

Pizza Girl said:

Dairy, period causes too many problems for human consumption. This is why
the dairy industry has had to make so many changes over the last 40 years.
Homogenization
pasteurization
filtration
fortification
low fat
skimming
particulate addition.

That doesn't seem like many changes to me in 40 years (compared to
many other products). I think the grain industry has probably gone
though as much, or more, changes. Just 10 years ago, everyone was
buying plain, white bread. Look at all the options in the bread isle
now (not to mention the cereal isle)!

Also, pasteurization is a lot more than 40 years old. Pizza Face
apparently thinks it started no earlier than 1965.

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That was the best troll you could come up with?

LOL

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Also, pasteurization is a lot more than 40 years old. Pizza Face
apparently thinks it started no earlier than 1965.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

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Also, pasteurization is a lot more than 40 years old. Pizza Face
apparently thinks it started no earlier than 1965.

In article <1117162570.be3f79c7139c2d310370ef5547477569@teranews>,

Pizza Girl said:

That was the best troll you could come up with?

Laugh, cretin. You were the one making the original claim; I was
merely pointing out what an idiot you are.

It's not my fault you're an idiot. That was nature's doing. Don't
blame me.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

I am laughing. You have been trying your feeble attempts to troll this group
for years.

Not many listen or care anymore.

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Quoted message said:

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Also, pasteurization is a lot more than 40 years old. Pizza Face
apparently thinks it started no earlier than 1965.

In article <1117162570.be3f79c7139c2d310370ef5547477569@teranews>,

Pizza Girl said:

That was the best troll you could come up with?

Laugh, cretin. You were the one making the original claim; I was
merely pointing out what an idiot you are.

It's not my fault you're an idiot. That was nature's doing. Don't
blame me.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"I don't need someone to tell me that George W. Bush is a
deceitful, corrupt, clever and destructive man--that's pretty
clear on the face of it." -- Garrison Keillor

Instead of name calling, I'd rather see experiments being done. It
would be fairly easy and inexpensive for a chemist to test a typical
quart of milk that is homogenized and pasteurized versus raw, organic,
totally untreated and fresh milk for lipid peroxidation products, for
example. Such an experiment is repeatable and might be very
illuminating, though I have a feeling that baked goods with powdered
eggs and dairy have really high amounts of oxidized cholesterol,
whereas the common milk product is not nearly as bad.

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Instead of name calling, I'd rather see experiments being done. It
would be fairly easy and inexpensive for a chemist to test a typical
quart of milk that is homogenized and pasteurized versus raw, organic,
totally untreated and fresh milk for lipid peroxidation products, for
example. Such an experiment is repeatable and might be very
illuminating, though I have a feeling that baked goods with powdered
eggs and dairy have really high amounts of oxidized cholesterol,
whereas the common milk product is not nearly as bad.

And the test would only tell you about the milk in hand. To make this
test worth anything you would need to test milk all over the US or world
for that matter before it would be of any believable value. Since the
testing that is required today seems to keep all but those with some
flavor of lactose intolerance happy, the only one you would appease with
such a $$$test$$$$ would be the fringe wackos who never let facts get in
the way of good self-absorbed myth and would not believe the results
anyway.

-DF