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  1. This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    It's happened to almost every driver: a deer jumps right in front of your
    car!

    Put yourself in this driver's seat.

    You don't realize it, but you're about to hit a deer.

    Some video captured by special car cameras, demonstrate just how little
    time you have to react.

    Sean Kelly hit a deer last Monday night, while driving his brand new car
    on U.S. 27 in Cold Spring.

    "It took me by surprise totally. I didn't see it out of the corner of my
    eyes or anything," Kelly said.

    But, it could have been much worse.

    "I always saw the deer warning signs, but never took it as a serious
    hazard," said Kathy Hill, whose husband Greg was killed as their family
    drove home from a soccer tournament in Topeka, Kansas.

    A Jeep on the other side of the interstate hit a deer, catapulting it over
    the median and through their windshield.

    "We were heading 70-miles an hour. So, the speed of the deer, when it hit
    our van, I can't estimate what it was, but it made the deer like a
    missile," Hill said.

    Kathy was hurt. A witness told her about her husband's final moments.

    "He was turning his head to the side to see if everybody else was
    okay. And that's when he died," said Hill.

    Wildlife officers say deer accidents are on the rise.

    "There are more deer now in North America than there have ever been. And
    we're right in their habitat. We're living there, we're driving
    there," said wildlife officer Todd Malmsbury.

    Be alert for deer, especially between dusk and dawn.

    If you spot a deer, slow down. Others are probably nearby.

    And, experts say, if the deer is directly in your path, don't swerve.

    On a driving simulator, you can see that swerving to avoid a deer might be
    a fatal mistake.

    Swerving might take you into the path of an oncoming car, or cause a
    rollover.

    Instead, hit your brakes.

    "A lot of times it's better to hit the deer than it is to actually try to
    avoid the deer," said Lt. John Eichkorn of the highway patrol

    One solution is the "highway underpass."

    New research shows that deer will actually cross under a busy highway,
    when given the option.

    But, wildlife underpasses can cost as much as a million dollars each.

    Deer crashes happen year 'round.

    But right now is prime time: the birthing season.

    Also be careful in October and November, the mating season.

    Contact Carol Williams
    E-mail [email hidden]

    <nice video at website>

    http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/healthyliving/1a85ac0.html

  2. "Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike would be
    something...anyone ever?...naw!

  3. "Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike would be
    something...anyone ever?...naw!

  4. Garrison Hilliard said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    It's happened to almost every deer: a cyclist jumps right in front it! ...

  5. "Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    wierd crosspost.

  6. greggery peccary said:

    "Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily
    populated areas.

    i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike
    would be something...anyone ever?...naw!

    I came way too close for comfort to being absolutely creamed by a large buck
    at Cuyamaca State Park (CA). Came bounding out of the brush right across my
    path as I was /flying/ down a nice smooth singletrack. No doubt in my mind
    whatsoever that it would have killed me if I'd been 10-15 feet faster.

    Could see it happening on a road bike, too, but not nearly as likely I
    wouldn't think. Still... watch out!

  7. Quoted message said:

    i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike


    would

    Quoted message said:

    be something...anyone ever?...naw!


    On http://www.bikejournal.com user irishbiker posted:
    A few years ago I was finishing hill training for a MS150 tour and a
    deer came out of the woods and took off across the road as I was going
    downhill. I honestly thought I was going fast enough to get by. Wrong!
    I crunched it and went flying. Thank goodness for my helmet. I actually
    did have proof I hit a deer as my taco'd front wheel had deer hair
    embedded between the tire and the rim. I've been kidded constantly
    since by friends wanting to know if I've been bike hunting lately. A
    friend and my father-in-law actually crafted a letter from the Kansas
    Department of Wildlife and Parks telling me that hunting in this manner
    was illegal and if I do it again I would be prosecuted to the full
    extent of the law!

  8. I've slapped a buck's tail during one commute and swatteded a doe on
    ass another ride. The buck covered me in deer "pellets".

    ..max

  9. I've slapped a buck's tail during one commute and swatted a doe on the
    ass on another ride. The buck covered me in deer "pellets".

    ..max

  10. "Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    It's happened to almost every driver: a deer jumps right in front of your
    car!

    Put yourself in this driver's seat.

    You don't realize it, but you're about to hit a deer.

    Some video captured by special car cameras, demonstrate just how little
    time you have to react.

    Sean Kelly hit a deer last Monday night, while driving his brand new car
    on U.S. 27 in Cold Spring.

    "It took me by surprise totally. I didn't see it out of the corner of my
    eyes or anything," Kelly said.

    But, it could have been much worse.

    "I always saw the deer warning signs, but never took it as a serious
    hazard," said Kathy Hill, whose husband Greg was killed as their family
    drove home from a soccer tournament in Topeka, Kansas.

    A Jeep on the other side of the interstate hit a deer, catapulting it over
    the median and through their windshield.

    "We were heading 70-miles an hour. So, the speed of the deer, when it hit
    our van, I can't estimate what it was, but it made the deer like a
    missile," Hill said.

    Kathy was hurt. A witness told her about her husband's final moments.

    "He was turning his head to the side to see if everybody else was
    okay. And that's when he died," said Hill.

    Wildlife officers say deer accidents are on the rise.

    "There are more deer now in North America than there have ever been. And
    we're right in their habitat. We're living there, we're driving
    there," said wildlife officer Todd Malmsbury.

    Be alert for deer, especially between dusk and dawn.

    If you spot a deer, slow down. Others are probably nearby.

    And, experts say, if the deer is directly in your path, don't swerve.

    On a driving simulator, you can see that swerving to avoid a deer might be
    a fatal mistake.

    Swerving might take you into the path of an oncoming car, or cause a
    rollover.

    Instead, hit your brakes.

    "A lot of times it's better to hit the deer than it is to actually try to
    avoid the deer," said Lt. John Eichkorn of the highway patrol

    One solution is the "highway underpass."

    New research shows that deer will actually cross under a busy highway,
    when given the option.

    But, wildlife underpasses can cost as much as a million dollars each.

    Deer crashes happen year 'round.

    But right now is prime time: the birthing season.

    Also be careful in October and November, the mating season.

    Contact Carol Williams
    E-mail [email hidden]

    <nice video at website>

    http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/healthyliving/1a85ac0.html

    I have never seen or heard of anyone hitting a deer on a bicycle!
    But the bike woould probably get the worst of it.

    Ken

  11. Bill Sornson said:
    greggery peccary said:

    "Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily
    populated areas.

    i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike
    would be something...anyone ever?...naw!


    that it would have killed me if I'd been 10-15 feet faster.

    Could see it happening on a road bike, too, but not nearly as likely I
    wouldn't think. Still... watch out!

    We had a deer run across the road right in front of our 25mph pace line.
    One guy panicked and hit his brakes too hard, endo'ed. Broken collar
    bone and bike frame.

  12. We see deer all the time on rides around here, even in the more
    populated, suburban areas outside of Philadelphia. Where there is one
    deer, we always remind ourselves that there might be a mate, or fawns.

    There is a story in one of my bike clubs about a member on a suburban
    (as opposed to rural) ride who was struck by a deer that suddenly
    bounded out of the woods and tried, unsuccessfully, to leap over her.
    --Roy Zipris

  13. Garrison Hilliard said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    The best way to stay on guard is to always expect the unexpected.

  14. Garrison Hilliard said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily


    populated

    Quoted message said:

    areas.

    Grass becomes the main food for deer during the summer months and
    since there isn't much grass growing in the woods the deer head for the
    areas next to the highways where there is plenty of grass growing to
    graze (feed) on. That's why you see so many deer at night along the
    highways during the summer, they're feeding. Generally, deer don't
    cross busy roads unless they've been spooked by a predator (the deer
    came out of no where!). Never swerve abruptly to avoid hitting a deer,
    you have a good chance of rolling your car. It's better to just hit
    the deer. Deer tend to eat farmer's crops in the fall months and
    stuff like acorns and bark in the winter.

    John

  15. greggery peccary' .@. said:

    "Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
    areas.

    i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike would be
    something...anyone ever?...naw!

    It happens. A buddy nearly got creamed on his MTB going up some wooded single
    track. Seems someone up ahead had spooked this deer who went barrelling down the
    trail right into Wayne. He saw the antlers coming at him and ditched. If he were
    riding faster, he'd have eaten it.

    Ron

  16. Ken said:


    I have never seen or heard of anyone hitting a deer on a bicycle!
    But the bike woould probably get the worst of it.

    Ken

    I was thinking the same thing. I ride my bike up in PA with my
    brother. He has deer all around him. He actually feeds them. They
    come to his back door for food. Along with every other creature that
    lives on the acres of land he bought up there. I was there once while
    the Mama's were bringing their little babies around. It was cute.

    Anyway, to get back on track. We all ride around that area, and I
    can't even imagine how we could not avoid a deer on a bicycle. Unless
    you are training for an event and really going fast.

    As far as I am concerned, I doubt very seriously if they are a huge
    threat to someone on a bike. A car is a different story. Even in that
    instance, if you hit the deer, the animal is dead and you have a
    wrecked front end. (happened to my brother)

    My husband hit a big dog that got loose in our suburban town. The dog
    got up and left, my husband had alot of damage to the front end of the
    car. I think the deaths happen when we try to avoid the deer and end
    up hitting a wall or another car coming in the opposite direction.

    Maggie.

    How did this car/deer thread get on a bicycle NG. We never go OT. ;-)

  17. questionme@________.com said:

    I live in the country and see deer all the time. I have had thousands
    of them run in front of my car. I have never hit one in my 30+ years
    of driving. You must ALWAYS be watching for them, and drive
    accordingly. That means drive slow if there are deer in sight. Why
    this is crossposted to a bicycles group I will never know...

    I must note that I did run over a dead deer once. Totally fu**ed up
    my exhaust system because someone hit a deer and left it laying in the
    road, and right around a bend in the road.

    At least if someone hits a deer they could move it off the road.

    They were probably out of freezer space...

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $695 ti frame

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ken said:


    I have never seen or heard of anyone hitting a deer on a bicycle!
    But the bike woould probably get the worst of it.

    Ken

    Well, I hit a deer on my motorcycle. I almost died. I really don't
    remember how it happened. I was in and out of a coma.
    The deer whistles didn't help.

    Quoted message said:


    g adds.
    MONEY , what a concept

  19. questionme@________.com said:

    I live in the country and see deer all the time. I have had


    thousands

    Quoted message said:

    of them run in front of my car. I have never hit one in my 30+ years
    of driving. You must ALWAYS be watching for them, and drive
    accordingly. That means drive slow if there are deer in sight. Why
    this is crossposted to a bicycles group I will never know...

    Because bicycles hit deer too.

    Quoted message said:

    I must note that I did run over a dead deer once. Totally fu**ed up
    my exhaust system because someone hit a deer and left it laying in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    road, and right around a bend in the road.

    At least if someone hits a deer they could move it off the road.

    Yeah, the sight of Bambi corpses on the road is pretty disgusting, and
    they are road hazards.

  20. questionme@________.com said:

    I live in the country and see deer all the time. I have had


    thousands

    Quoted message said:

    of them run in front of my car. I have never hit one in my 30+ years
    of driving. You must ALWAYS be watching for them, and drive
    accordingly. That means drive slow if there are deer in sight. Why
    this is crossposted to a bicycles group I will never know...

    Because bicycles hit deer too.

    Quoted message said:

    I must note that I did run over a dead deer once. Totally fu**ed up
    my exhaust system because someone hit a deer and left it laying in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    road, and right around a bend in the road.

    At least if someone hits a deer they could move it off the road.

    Yeah, the sight of Bambi corpses on the road is pretty disgusting, and
    they are road hazards.

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