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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:

    My husband has decided to go LC with me, a choice about which I'm thrilled.
    He doesn't have a whole lot of weight to lose, but has a job where he's on
    his feet all night, walks miles and miles using heavy floor-maintaining
    equipment and has been having problems with his legs (soft tissue), knees
    and feet (joints). While I like my men "cuddly" rather than skinny or
    muscle-y, I think that he'll have an easier time if he drops a little
    weight...40 lbs maybe? Anyway, now I'm thinking about what to pack in his
    lunches.

    He works nights, and likes a variety of foods in his lunch which he divides
    among his breaks and his lunchtime. My considerations are that (a) he
    doesn't like raw vegetables or salads, (b) he hates standing in line waiting
    for his turn at the microwave, since he's on his feet all night, walking
    many miles operating heavy equipment - he just wants to sit when he has the
    chance, and (c) eggs don't agree with him.

    One of my favorite things for lunch is a pickle spear wrapped in a slice
    of cheese, a slice of deli meat, with a squirt of mustard inside, held
    together with a toothpick. Three of those is a filling meal for me.
    After a couple of weeks on low-carb, see if he'll try some raw
    vegetables, because his taste buds might change.

  2. My new lunch fave is two slices of Swiis, nuked for 10 seconds to make
    em warm, a HB egg and some imitation crab. I love tha stuff. To me,
    it's as good as real crab.

    LassChance
    (aka WIR)

    Start LC~5-16-05
    202-199-165
    (i only weigh on Sunday)

  3. My husband has decided to go LC with me, a choice about which I'm thrilled.
    He doesn't have a whole lot of weight to lose, but has a job where he's on
    his feet all night, walks miles and miles using heavy floor-maintaining
    equipment and has been having problems with his legs (soft tissue), knees
    and feet (joints). While I like my men "cuddly" rather than skinny or
    muscle-y, I think that he'll have an easier time if he drops a little
    weight...40 lbs maybe? Anyway, now I'm thinking about what to pack in his
    lunches.

    He works nights, and likes a variety of foods in his lunch which he divides
    among his breaks and his lunchtime. My considerations are that (a) he
    doesn't like raw vegetables or salads, (b) he hates standing in line waiting
    for his turn at the microwave, since he's on his feet all night, walking
    many miles operating heavy equipment - he just wants to sit when he has the
    chance, and (c) eggs don't agree with him.

    So far what I'm coming up with are LC soups in a thermos; cold chicken;
    meat/egg salads; dips w/ pork rinds (wish he'd eat raw veggies); protein
    shakes in a shaker bottle that he can just add water; string cheese sticks.
    A lot of the things that are my mainstays, like salads, lettuce wraps, raw
    veggies/dip, and hard-boiled eggs, aren't an option for him, so I'll have to
    be a bit creative maybe...but in the end I believe it will be worth it. He
    is in SO MUCH pain that he lives on ibuprofen and walks with a cane much of
    the time, and anything that will help him have a more normal life when he's
    not at work will be worth the effort. I'm totally crazy about him and hate
    to see him in pain.

    I didn't adhere strictly to Atkin's induction for the first 2 weeks and
    probably won't worry about it much for hubby either, in the interest of
    being able to provide a greater variety for him. I think once he stops
    drinking his 2-liter bottle of pop every night (he gets really thirsty),
    that alone will help, along with the severe reduction in carbs. The night
    shift thread has been very helpful and enlightening also!

    By default, our 14YO daughter will be eating LC also, since there won't be
    any carby foods in the house now. She doesn't have a weight issue but
    eating only veggies, meats, dairy, and some fruit certainly won't hurt her
    any 🙂. So I won't have to be doing 2 kinds of grocery shopping either...

    Anyway...I'm off to do some more googling 🙂.
    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    One of my favorite things for lunch is a pickle spear wrapped in a slice
    of cheese, a slice of deli meat, with a squirt of mustard inside, held
    together with a toothpick. Three of those is a filling meal for me.
    After a couple of weeks on low-carb, see if he'll try some raw
    vegetables, because his taste buds might change.

    He loves pickles, he should like this, thanks! 🙂

    I hope his tastes do change, it will open up his dietary horizons a great
    deal!

    Thanks Luna!

    I've personally had a hard time giving up sandwiches...
    While lettuce wraps are better (but your hubby won't eat them!), I've
    found low carb flour tortillas to be a godsend. Just read the package
    labels carefully!

    There are also low carb bake mixes available. Those are used for a
    variety of things.

    Have him try ice tea with splenda as a substitute for his nightly coke
    habits. High fluid intake is never a bad thing. ;-)

    Meat salads you've already thought of.
    Soup in a thermos is also excellent as you stated.

    Cold smoked turkey legs are available at most stores, as are pre-cooked
    chicken legs and wings. Home made cold fried chicken will work too.

    My mother NEVER breaded fried chicken! She fried it in a cast iron
    skillet using a few herbs and only a bit of olive oil in the pan. It's
    fabulous and I still make it. Recipe on request. <G>

    Stews are more hardy than soups.

    If you can afford Keto-pasta, pasta salads work too.

    Google for black soy beans for a delectable treat. The low carb-ness of
    that specific legume is nearly miraculous.

    How does he feel about celery? I like to use it to "scoop" meat salads
    personally.

    Cheese comes in a hyooge variety.

    Jerky also works.

    Hope this helps???
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Lass Chance) said:

    My new lunch fave is two slices of Swiis, nuked for 10 seconds to make
    em warm, a HB egg and some imitation crab. I love tha stuff. To me,
    it's as good as real crab.

    LassChance
    (aka WIR)

    Ooh sweety! Have you read the label on fake crab???
    A lot of brands are loaded with sugar! Killed my ketosis they did! :-(

    I had to switch back to fish chunks and shrimp, and give up the fake
    crab for much later.

    <sigh>

    I'll sometimes take a chunk of jack cheese and nuke it, then eat it
    slowly with a fork. ;-d

    Sausages also tend to have sugar as an ingredient.

    "Boars Head" brands are mostly sugar free. Higher in price, but worth it
    IMHO. I just eat less of the higher priced items. ;-)

    Om. (who eats mostly fresh chicken......)
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sherry said:


    HELPS??? Oh my goodness it's WONDERFUL! I see all kinds of things in here
    that I can try and that I know he'll eat! I actually have some CarbQuik and
    also High Gluten Wheat Flour from Netrition so I was also thinking of a
    biscuit (2 gm) sandwich once in a while. I'd like to see him break his
    dependence on breads/pastas and then start adding them back in more slowly
    but really, if I see him struggling I will add those things because I'd
    rather do that than see him give up. He's doing this a little reluctantly,
    methinks...and given his level of calorie burn, giving up the sugary pop,
    and the fact that he doesn't have massive amounts to lose, I won't worry as
    much about the details as I did with myself.

    Anyway - EXCELLENT suggestions here, I so much appreciate them, Om!!! Wow!

    Cheers dear! :-)

    Contrary to popular belief, I've found that my food varieties have
    expanded once I broke the carb addiction that most american diets are
    based on.......

    I eat a much large variety of foods now and am enjoying every minute of
    it.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    One of my favorite things for lunch is a pickle spear wrapped in a slice
    of cheese, a slice of deli meat, with a squirt of mustard inside, held
    together with a toothpick. Three of those is a filling meal for me.
    After a couple of weeks on low-carb, see if he'll try some raw
    vegetables, because his taste buds might change.

    He loves pickles, he should like this, thanks! 🙂

    I hope his tastes do change, it will open up his dietary horizons a great
    deal!

    Thanks Luna!

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  8. "Lass Chance" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My new lunch fave is two slices of Swiis, nuked for 10 seconds to make
    em warm, a HB egg and some imitation crab. I love tha stuff. To me,

    WOOHOO! Look at those numbers go down - good going on your Sunday
    weigh-in!!

    He loves the imitation crab too, I don't buy it unless it is on sale
    usually...but now that I won't be buying so many of the other foods and
    snacks, I will!

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  9. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've personally had a hard time giving up sandwiches...
    While lettuce wraps are better (but your hubby won't eat them!), I've
    found low carb flour tortillas to be a godsend. Just read the package
    labels carefully!

    There are also low carb bake mixes available. Those are used for a
    variety of things.

    Have him try ice tea with splenda as a substitute for his nightly coke
    habits. High fluid intake is never a bad thing. ;-)

    Meat salads you've already thought of.
    Soup in a thermos is also excellent as you stated.

    Cold smoked turkey legs are available at most stores, as are pre-cooked
    chicken legs and wings. Home made cold fried chicken will work too.

    My mother NEVER breaded fried chicken! She fried it in a cast iron
    skillet using a few herbs and only a bit of olive oil in the pan. It's
    fabulous and I still make it. Recipe on request. <G>

    Stews are more hardy than soups.

    If you can afford Keto-pasta, pasta salads work too.

    Google for black soy beans for a delectable treat. The low carb-ness of
    that specific legume is nearly miraculous.

    How does he feel about celery? I like to use it to "scoop" meat salads
    personally.

    Cheese comes in a hyooge variety.

    Jerky also works.

    HELPS??? Oh my goodness it's WONDERFUL! I see all kinds of things in here
    that I can try and that I know he'll eat! I actually have some CarbQuik and
    also High Gluten Wheat Flour from Netrition so I was also thinking of a
    biscuit (2 gm) sandwich once in a while. I'd like to see him break his
    dependence on breads/pastas and then start adding them back in more slowly
    but really, if I see him struggling I will add those things because I'd
    rather do that than see him give up. He's doing this a little reluctantly,
    methinks...and given his level of calorie burn, giving up the sugary pop,
    and the fact that he doesn't have massive amounts to lose, I won't worry as
    much about the details as I did with myself.

    Anyway - EXCELLENT suggestions here, I so much appreciate them, Om!!! Wow!

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  10. "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My husband has decided to go LC with me, a choice about which I'm
    thrilled.
    He doesn't have a whole lot of weight to lose, but has a job where he's on
    his feet all night, walks miles and miles using heavy floor-maintaining
    equipment and has been having problems with his legs (soft tissue), knees
    and feet (joints). While I like my men "cuddly" rather than skinny or
    muscle-y, I think that he'll have an easier time if he drops a little
    weight...40 lbs maybe? Anyway, now I'm thinking about what to pack in his
    lunches.

    He works nights, and likes a variety of foods in his lunch which he
    divides
    among his breaks and his lunchtime. My considerations are that (a) he
    doesn't like raw vegetables or salads, (b) he hates standing in line
    waiting
    for his turn at the microwave, since he's on his feet all night, walking
    many miles operating heavy equipment - he just wants to sit when he has
    the
    chance, and (c) eggs don't agree with him.

    So far what I'm coming up with are LC soups in a thermos; cold chicken;
    meat/egg salads; dips w/ pork rinds (wish he'd eat raw veggies); protein
    shakes in a shaker bottle that he can just add water; string cheese
    sticks.
    A lot of the things that are my mainstays, like salads, lettuce wraps, raw
    veggies/dip, and hard-boiled eggs, aren't an option for him, so I'll have
    to
    be a bit creative maybe...but in the end I believe it will be worth it.
    He
    is in SO MUCH pain that he lives on ibuprofen and walks with a cane much
    of
    the time, and anything that will help him have a more normal life when
    he's
    not at work will be worth the effort. I'm totally crazy about him and
    hate
    to see him in pain.

    I didn't adhere strictly to Atkin's induction for the first 2 weeks and
    probably won't worry about it much for hubby either, in the interest of
    being able to provide a greater variety for him. I think once he stops
    drinking his 2-liter bottle of pop every night (he gets really thirsty),
    that alone will help, along with the severe reduction in carbs. The night
    shift thread has been very helpful and enlightening also!

    By default, our 14YO daughter will be eating LC also, since there won't be
    any carby foods in the house now. She doesn't have a weight issue but
    eating only veggies, meats, dairy, and some fruit certainly won't hurt her
    any 🙂. So I won't have to be doing 2 kinds of grocery shopping either...

    Anyway...I'm off to do some more googling 🙂.
    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

    My husband went LC and lost 30lbs (kept it off too) and he was not super
    strict either. He would sometimes have pizza on a saturday. Have his burger
    on top of 1 slice of whole wheat bread - stuff like that. I don't think he
    gave up the ketchup even!

    We found that he could eat a sandwich using a thin wrap or even a pita once
    a week. He cut out sugar & milk, switched to diet sodas, quit caffiene and
    really limits his bread but has some brown rice with dinner sometimes.

    Your husband sounds like a junk food guy so making these kinds of changes
    will help him feel better and lose weight.

    He can also ween toward LC by not going into it fully at first. Give him
    cold cuts in a wrap, or cold chicken w/veggies or a small salad that's not
    just some iceburg lettuce & cucmbers. See if he likes things like arugala,
    escarole, collard greens, dandelion - these things have alot of flavor and
    he can invent dressings too! I like a cold mexcian salad with grilled
    chicken, sour cream, avocado and hot sauce!! That's a manly salad, no?

    And nuts are a great work snack. I buy a big box of individually portioned
    peanuts or cashews at the warehouse stores (BJs or Costco or whatever you
    have) and send them to wrok with my husband.

    Good luck - keep us posted!

  11. OM! OMG!!! Thank GOD I mentioned it.
    No, I hadnt even looked at the label...I just assumed it was nothing BUT
    pollock. Pardom me for a moment while I cuss.
    MORTOR FORKING SUNNY BEACH!

    I am SO [censored]....I had my friend read me the label just now....and a
    serving has 16 MORTOR FORKING gms!!!!!

    16 fricking GRAMS, man!

    Ive been eating it EVERY FORKING DAY!

    oh, man....oh man....and here I was trying to be brave and happy with my
    crummy three lb loss...I could forking SPIT Im so mad. I could bite the
    head off a LIVE chicken and LIKE IT!

    whic means....my daily carbs have actually been...like 36! NOT 20!

    SUNNY FREAKIN BEACH!!!!!
    NO FREAKIN WONDER!!!!!!

    I wanna kill something. Possibly MYSELF.

    Thank GOD I mentioned it, tho.....I woulda just kept munchig, thinking I
    was eating pure fish protein..... and believing I was just gonna be
    "slow to lose".

    You SAVED me, Om. MUCH thanks.

    OH, what a lesson Ive learned today......
    grumble, cuss....

    should I stay in Induction for the next two weeks and discount this
    whole week?

    hey, I just had a thought....the GOOD news, I guess,, is, at least I
    learned I can still lose, even at 36 gms a day.

    that makes me feel SOME better.

    LassChance
    (aka WIR)

    Start LC~5-16-05
    202-199-165
    (i only weigh on Sunday)

  12. SHERRY!

    NO!

    DONT BUY THE PHONY CRAB!!!

    The (*&^&^%$ stuff had 18 gms of carb!!!

    LassChance
    (aka WIR)

    Start LC~5-16-05
    202-199-165
    (i only weigh on Sunday)

  13. "Lass Chance" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    SHERRY!

    NO!

    DONT BUY THE PHONY CRAB!!!

    The (*&^&^%$ stuff had 18 gms of carb!!!

    That's ok, I'll probably just get him the real thing 🙂.
    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  14. Lass Chance said:

    OM! OMG!!! Thank GOD I mentioned it.
    No, I hadnt even looked at the label...I just assumed it was nothing BUT
    pollock. Pardom me for a moment while I cuss.
    MORTOR FORKING SUNNY BEACH!

    I am SO [censored]....I had my friend read me the label just now....and a
    serving has 16 MORTOR FORKING gms!!!!!

    16 fricking GRAMS, man!

    Ive been eating it EVERY FORKING DAY!

    oh, man....oh man....and here I was trying to be brave and happy with my
    crummy three lb loss...I could forking SPIT Im so mad. I could bite the
    head off a LIVE chicken and LIKE IT!

    whic means....my daily carbs have actually been...like 36! NOT 20!

    Um, not to interrupt a perfectly good rant or anything, cause I like one
    as well as anyone. But, you do know that there's no magic about 20 grams
    of carbs, right? Many people (in fact, probably most) lose just fine at
    that level. There are reasons Atkins has people start at that level, but
    it's not necessary for good weight loss.

    It may have something to do with your rate of weight loss or it may not.

    Martha

    --
    Sig pending

  15. "Lass Chance" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:19937-42921854-439@storefull-

    Quoted message said:

    I am SO [censored]....I had my friend read me the label just now....and a
    serving has 16 MORTOR FORKING gms!!!!!

    16 fricking GRAMS, man!
    whic means....my daily carbs have actually been...like 36! NOT 20!
    should I stay in Induction for the next two weeks and discount this
    whole week?

    All from sugar, too, right?
    That's more critical than simply the fact that it's 16g, in my opinion. I
    can lose weight at much higher carb counts, but only if my carbs are coming
    from better sources than sugar/corn syrup (that stuff slows my weight like
    crazy, regardless of including it in my count).

    I would advise just moving into OWL and doing 25 next week. Make sure your
    additional carbs are just veggies... add in stuff in order from the carb
    ladder, not the stuff you may be missing the most. Add only one new food at
    a time so you can tell your body's reaction to each.

    I wouldn't be surprised if your weight loss next week is more than you've
    already had because of the sugar you've been unknowingly eating.

    Good luck!

    --
    Spring
    LC since 1/1/04
    260/197/170

    "Before" & "current" pics at link below:
    http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sprgsnow/my_photos

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Lass Chance) said:

    OM! OMG!!! Thank GOD I mentioned it.
    No, I hadnt even looked at the label...I just assumed it was nothing BUT
    pollock. Pardom me for a moment while I cuss.
    MORTOR FORKING SUNNY BEACH!

    I am SO [censored]....I had my friend read me the label just now....and a
    serving has 16 MORTOR FORKING gms!!!!!

    16 fricking GRAMS, man!

    I'm sorry... :-(
    I know it sucks. I love that stuff too!

    Look for canned crab meat for your crab fix, and frozen shrimp is
    cheaper than fresh....

    I was wondering what was killing my ketosis at one point.
    Turns out that, and sausage, was the culprit.

    Only "Boars head" makes sugar free sausage.

    Quoted message said:


    Ive been eating it EVERY FORKING DAY!

    oh, man....oh man....and here I was trying to be brave and happy with my
    crummy three lb loss...I could forking SPIT Im so mad. I could bite the
    head off a LIVE chicken and LIKE IT!

    Chill dear. :-)
    It's a learning process!!!!!

    Quoted message said:


    whic means....my daily carbs have actually been...like 36! NOT 20!

    SUNNY FREAKIN BEACH!!!!!
    NO FREAKIN WONDER!!!!!!

    I wanna kill something. Possibly MYSELF.

    <snicker> Don't go there...
    Kill the manufacturer that makes a "meat product" with added sugar.

    Quoted message said:


    Thank GOD I mentioned it, tho.....I woulda just kept munchig, thinking I
    was eating pure fish protein..... and believing I was just gonna be
    "slow to lose".

    You SAVED me, Om. MUCH thanks.

    OH, what a lesson Ive learned today......
    grumble, cuss....

    should I stay in Induction for the next two weeks and discount this
    whole week?

    Nah. Check your ketones. If you are making them, you are ok.
    Some people can have a little higher carb without it hurting them.

    Read read read those labels on ANY prepared foods.

    Quoted message said:


    hey, I just had a thought....the GOOD news, I guess,, is, at least I
    learned I can still lose, even at 36 gms a day.

    that makes me feel SOME better.

    LassChance
    (aka WIR)

    Cheers dear!
    --
    K.

    Sprout the MungBean to reply

    "I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell--you
    see, I have friends in both places." --Mark Twain

  17. "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a bit creative maybe...but in the end I believe it will be worth it.


    He

    Quoted message said:

    is in SO MUCH pain that he lives on ibuprofen and walks with a cane much


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the time, and anything that will help him have a more normal life when


    he's

    Quoted message said:

    not at work will be worth the effort. I'm totally crazy about him and


    hate

    Quoted message said:

    to see him in pain.

    My mother has been taking glucosamine sulfate and MSM. Her knees bother her
    a lot less than they used to, she had been on Vioxx and the dr gave her a
    handicap parking pass because of them.

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  18. "Sherry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    HELPS??? Oh my goodness it's WONDERFUL! I see all kinds of things in


    here

    Quoted message said:

    that I can try and that I know he'll eat! I actually have some CarbQuik


    and

    Quoted message said:

    also High Gluten Wheat Flour from Netrition so I was also thinking of a
    biscuit (2 gm) sandwich once in a while. I'd like to see him break his
    dependence on breads/pastas and then start adding them back in more slowly
    but really, if I see him struggling I will add those things because I'd
    rather do that than see him give up. He's doing this a little


    reluctantly,

    Quoted message said:

    methinks...and given his level of calorie burn, giving up the sugary pop,
    and the fact that he doesn't have massive amounts to lose, I won't worry


    as

    Quoted message said:

    much about the details as I did with myself.

    Anyway - EXCELLENT suggestions here, I so much appreciate them, Om!!!


    Wow!

    You don't have to start with induction, it isn't a law or anything. It is
    a really good idea to increase low carb veggies, though, they are filling
    and nutritious and, along with a high protein breakfast, will help reduce
    hunger. btw.. if he gives up 1 can of pop every day for the next year
    that's enough to lose 15 lbs.

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  19. "None Given" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You don't have to start with induction, it isn't a law or anything. It


    is

    Quoted message said:

    a really good idea to increase low carb veggies, though, they are filling
    and nutritious and, along with a high protein breakfast, will help reduce
    hunger. btw.. if he gives up 1 can of pop every day for the next year
    that's enough to lose 15 lbs.

    He's doing well, peeing all the time - lol - and eating LOTS more veggies
    (cooked - he doesn't like raw) than he usually does. I figured just
    omitting that 2-liter bottle of pop every night would have an effect but
    didn't realize how much. Between that, and dumping the starchy carby foods
    from his diet, he should be in good shape in a couple of months! And your
    high protein breakfast comment reminded me that I can put a cup with some
    protein shake mix in his lunch also - he'll just have to add water...

    Thank you! 🙂

    --
    Sherry
    360/?/195
    LC since 4/4/05
    My LC Journey - www.livejournal.com/users/ShrinkingSherry

  20. "Lass Chance" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    OM! OMG!!! Thank GOD I mentioned it.
    No, I hadnt even looked at the label...I just assumed it was nothing BUT
    pollock. Pardom me for a moment while I cuss.
    MORTOR FORKING SUNNY BEACH!

    Rose, do us a favour and quote stuff, willya? You had me really worried
    there, I thought something dire had happened in your life that I'd missed.

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/77/72Kg
    1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
    T2 DX 05/2004

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